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Wexford Hurling thread 2024

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "I certainly haven't forgotten but there's a difference between respecting a team and worrying about a team, neither Limerick nor Kilkenny would ever worry about Antrim, I'd say most KK people would refer to this KK team as a poor enough one by their standards and yet the absolutely horsed Antrim, Antrim then bet us but we pretty much go toe-to-toe with KK every time we play them, something's wrong there and Antrim aren't the only county this applies to, also applies to our performances against Westmeath as well

The last three years, we've played both Antrim and Westmeath twice in the Championship and all four times, we put in very poor performances, it seems like we only raise our game against KK but we then mess around and play with fire against Westmeath and Antrim and ultimately, we keep on getting burned

Everyone here and in the camp wants Wexford to win an All-Ireland but the one thing above all else that is holding us back is not technical ability nor physical ability nor tactical ability, it's mental ability and until we change how we think about facing the likes of Antrim and Westmeath, we won't be winning All-Irelands"
I'm still convinced that Kilkenny threw the match to Wexford in '23. Remember if Wexford lost that day they were in the Joe McDonagh Cup. Now that wouldn't suit the narrative and Kilkenny want to control that narrative. Ah but who cares, Castletown Geoghegan had their day in the sun last Sunday. Small fry one might say but tasty all the same.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 23/11/2024 18:40:58    2580864

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Replying To MillerX:  "I'm still convinced that Kilkenny threw the match to Wexford in '23. Remember if Wexford lost that day they were in the Joe McDonagh Cup. Now that wouldn't suit the narrative and Kilkenny want to control that narrative. Ah but who cares, Castletown Geoghegan had their day in the sun last Sunday. Small fry one might say but tasty all the same."
"Threw" the match, on a scoreline of 4-23 to 5-18, and with Kilkenny having a goal disallowed after three minutes of injury time because the pass that led to it was deemed a throw instead of a legitimate handpass.

I think you're being ridiculous, and I expect others would share my view.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2648 - 23/11/2024 19:35:41    2580879

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "I certainly haven't forgotten but there's a difference between respecting a team and worrying about a team, neither Limerick nor Kilkenny would ever worry about Antrim, I'd say most KK people would refer to this KK team as a poor enough one by their standards and yet the absolutely horsed Antrim, Antrim then bet us but we pretty much go toe-to-toe with KK every time we play them, something's wrong there and Antrim aren't the only county this applies to, also applies to our performances against Westmeath as well

The last three years, we've played both Antrim and Westmeath twice in the Championship and all four times, we put in very poor performances, it seems like we only raise our game against KK but we then mess around and play with fire against Westmeath and Antrim and ultimately, we keep on getting burned

Everyone here and in the camp wants Wexford to win an All-Ireland but the one thing above all else that is holding us back is not technical ability nor physical ability nor tactical ability, it's mental ability and until we change how we think about facing the likes of Antrim and Westmeath, we won't be winning All-Irelands"
Antrim didn't even play their best team against Kilkenny.
And as regards the 2nd part of your post it's nonsense. We are only catching up physically with the top teams now, and until we sort out our underage we also have a technical deficit. We have lads on our team who started in last years championship who should be playing football for the county where they would be a huge addition.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14123 - 23/11/2024 20:30:21    2580893

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Replying To MillerX:  "I'm still convinced that Kilkenny threw the match to Wexford in '23. Remember if Wexford lost that day they were in the Joe McDonagh Cup. Now that wouldn't suit the narrative and Kilkenny want to control that narrative. Ah but who cares, Castletown Geoghegan had their day in the sun last Sunday. Small fry one might say but tasty all the same."
Also CTG have a great team with good intercounty experience. Much more intercounty experience than Thomastown had. It wasn't a shock that they won.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14123 - 23/11/2024 20:32:56    2580895

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Replying To MillerX:  "I'm still convinced that Kilkenny threw the match to Wexford in '23. Remember if Wexford lost that day they were in the Joe McDonagh Cup. Now that wouldn't suit the narrative and Kilkenny want to control that narrative. Ah but who cares, Castletown Geoghegan had their day in the sun last Sunday. Small fry one might say but tasty all the same."
Nadine. Kilkenny don't mess around ever and would loved to have beaten us that day. It's a massive rivalry. Why would they have wanted us to stay up?

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3223 - 23/11/2024 21:10:13    2580905

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "I certainly haven't forgotten but there's a difference between respecting a team and worrying about a team, neither Limerick nor Kilkenny would ever worry about Antrim, I'd say most KK people would refer to this KK team as a poor enough one by their standards and yet the absolutely horsed Antrim, Antrim then bet us but we pretty much go toe-to-toe with KK every time we play them, something's wrong there and Antrim aren't the only county this applies to, also applies to our performances against Westmeath as well

The last three years, we've played both Antrim and Westmeath twice in the Championship and all four times, we put in very poor performances, it seems like we only raise our game against KK but we then mess around and play with fire against Westmeath and Antrim and ultimately, we keep on getting burned

Everyone here and in the camp wants Wexford to win an All-Ireland but the one thing above all else that is holding us back is not technical ability nor physical ability nor tactical ability, it's mental ability and until we change how we think about facing the likes of Antrim and Westmeath, we won't be winning All-Irelands"
All things considered we should be beating Antrim.

However we were unconvincing in 23 and got caught last year. Davy will have them primed for that game as the highlight of their year and would love to put one over on kieth. He also knows our players inside out.

It's the ultimate banana skin that as you outlined were extremely prone to.

If we're not on it we'll get caught.

The last couple of years I've been far more worried about the ones we're expected to win than Galway, Dublin or particularly Kilkenny against whom we always get a performance.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3223 - 23/11/2024 21:13:36    2580907

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Replying To MillerX:  "I'm still convinced that Kilkenny threw the match to Wexford in '23. Remember if Wexford lost that day they were in the Joe McDonagh Cup. Now that wouldn't suit the narrative and Kilkenny want to control that narrative. Ah but who cares, Castletown Geoghegan had their day in the sun last Sunday. Small fry one might say but tasty all the same."
That is the greatest load of bull. Wally Walsh living on the border of wexford eoin Murphy Alan Murphy went to school in new Ross. I know their family they would have loved nothing more than to bury wexford hurling in 2023 like every kk person in tulllogher glenmore and the rower. In fact. That was a quality game look back on it on you tube it was a cracker

Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 318 - 24/11/2024 08:18:25    2580936

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Replying To Wexfordgaa:  "That is the greatest load of bull. Wally Walsh living on the border of wexford eoin Murphy Alan Murphy went to school in new Ross. I know their family they would have loved nothing more than to bury wexford hurling in 2023 like every kk person in tulllogher glenmore and the rower. In fact. That was a quality game look back on it on you tube it was a cracker"
Spot on. It was the highlight of the Leinster championship and one of the better games of the whole year

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3223 - 24/11/2024 13:18:36    2580982

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Just leaving Parnell Park. It's one that Martins could have won but the defining moment of the game was a brilliant goal. NF worked the ball well up the terrace side in last 15 minutes and changed things tactically to get upper hand. David Codd was excellent again and I really like Dempsey and Barrett in defence. Barry O Connor would be some asset for Wexford.

wexfordwin (Wexford) - Posts: 188 - 24/11/2024 16:26:02    2581021

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Replying To Wexfordgaa:  "That is the greatest load of bull. Wally Walsh living on the border of wexford eoin Murphy Alan Murphy went to school in new Ross. I know their family they would have loved nothing more than to bury wexford hurling in 2023 like every kk person in tulllogher glenmore and the rower. In fact. That was a quality game look back on it on you tube it was a cracker"
Agreed. If anyone wants to understand the rivalry between Wexford and kilkenny you should go see the madigan cup in good counsel college. It's a game played between 5th and 6th years and the whole school would go out to see it and just for bragging rights for the next year. You'd have likes of matt Hanlon marking wally Walsh, James breen marking ger aylward and not inch given between them. Even when Wexford were at their worst Kilkenny still put their foots on their throats any chance they got. No way would they throw a game let alone against wexford

camánouttathat (Wexford) - Posts: 60 - 24/11/2024 23:52:41    2581091

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Is Barry O'Connor definitely going back to Australia next year?

Could do with creating a new thread, might make sense to create a general one rather than one for each year, that way someone wouldn't have to create a new one each year

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 358 - 25/11/2024 20:07:38    2581241

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Is Barry O'Connor definitely going back to Australia next year?

Could do with creating a new thread, might make sense to create a general one rather than one for each year, that way someone wouldn't have to create a new one each year"
Yes he is.

It's not a big job create a thread.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14123 - 25/11/2024 21:26:58    2581247

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Is Barry O'Connor definitely going back to Australia next year?

Could do with creating a new thread, might make sense to create a general one rather than one for each year, that way someone wouldn't have to create a new one each year"
I thought Barry was a great option under the high ball v Na Fianna Sunday and was laying off great passses.

His hurling definitely needs a lot of work but would he worth a look over the winter in with Keith Rossiter as a big ball winning half forward?

He is 26 now but athletically he is in superb condition.

You'd imagine if he is hanging around, the footballers would be very keen to get him.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 835 - 26/11/2024 10:35:27    2581282

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Replying To Past hurler:  "I thought Barry was a great option under the high ball v Na Fianna Sunday and was laying off great passses.

His hurling definitely needs a lot of work but would he worth a look over the winter in with Keith Rossiter as a big ball winning half forward?

He is 26 now but athletically he is in superb condition.

You'd imagine if he is hanging around, the footballers would be very keen to get him."
I think Barry already indicted in an interview he is going back to Oz unfortunately . Would have been a great asset for the hurlers

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 370 - 26/11/2024 11:07:21    2581285

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Replying To camánouttathat:  "Agreed. If anyone wants to understand the rivalry between Wexford and kilkenny you should go see the madigan cup in good counsel college. It's a game played between 5th and 6th years and the whole school would go out to see it and just for bragging rights for the next year. You'd have likes of matt Hanlon marking wally Walsh, James breen marking ger aylward and not inch given between them. Even when Wexford were at their worst Kilkenny still put their foots on their throats any chance they got. No way would they throw a game let alone against wexford"
Go into the parish pump in rosbercon after a wexford Kilkenny game it's vicious. It's in wexford and owned by a wexford man but has tolerance to wexford kk rivalry. But if wexford win you will not see a Kilkenny man for weeks thy will go to listerlin or glenmore. Wexford lads in the estate just put up with it.

Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 318 - 26/11/2024 19:43:00    2581368

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Replying To Wexfordgaa:  "Go into the parish pump in rosbercon after a wexford Kilkenny game it's vicious. It's in wexford and owned by a wexford man but has tolerance to wexford kk rivalry. But if wexford win you will not see a Kilkenny man for weeks thy will go to listerlin or glenmore. Wexford lads in the estate just put up with it."
Kilkenny lads would argue it's not really in Wexford as it's the wrong side of the Barrow, but it is in Wexford as far as today goes. My eldest is in the Faith, postal address Wexford also, there's a good bit of rivalry there too.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14123 - 26/11/2024 20:42:57    2581378

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Replying To Afinestick96:  "I think Barry already indicted in an interview he is going back to Oz unfortunately . Would have been a great asset for the hurlers"
Footballers moving over to the hurlers has been tried countless times with limited success. Just because a lad is big and strong and a good club player means very little at inter county level. Daithi Waters was a good club hurler but was never going to make the step up. Good few more tried it during Davys time but limited success from memory. Barry O'Connor would be the same I think. The skill level required to play inter county hurling in any position now is very high.

Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 309 - 02/12/2024 17:34:45    2582087

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Replying To Timbertony:  "Footballers moving over to the hurlers has been tried countless times with limited success. Just because a lad is big and strong and a good club player means very little at inter county level. Daithi Waters was a good club hurler but was never going to make the step up. Good few more tried it during Davys time but limited success from memory. Barry O'Connor would be the same I think. The skill level required to play inter county hurling in any position now is very high."
There's a few lads on our Senior hurling panel that would be far more of an addition to our footballers than they are to our hurlers. It's a shame there's not more joined up thinking to encourage some of these lads to play football, and our footballers would be potentially div 2 and competitive in Leinster excludingDublin, while our hurlers might have more lads starting who can get the head up and see the whole pitch, and strike and pick up and control the sliotar better.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14123 - 02/12/2024 18:25:29    2582097

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Replying To Viking66:  "There's a few lads on our Senior hurling panel that would be far more of an addition to our footballers than they are to our hurlers. It's a shame there's not more joined up thinking to encourage some of these lads to play football, and our footballers would be potentially div 2 and competitive in Leinster excludingDublin, while our hurlers might have more lads starting who can get the head up and see the whole pitch, and strike and pick up and control the sliotar better."
Same was tried in Tipp a few times, super fit county footballers tried their hand with the hurlers and didn't work out, the game is too fast.

Your first touch and striking has to be impeccable.
You can't have a weakness in your skillet playing against Liam McCarthy opposition or you'll be cleaned out.

Seamus Kennedy from Cashel came across from football but he was a quality hurler anyway and was playing Fitzgibbon cup.

Rory O'Connor gave up playing club football with the Martins to get the best out of himself and save his body hardship. Best decision he ever made.

A lot of lads don't want to play county football with
Wexford, it's not near as prestigious as being a Wexford hurler and I don't see that changing anytime sound.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 835 - 02/12/2024 20:24:28    2582114

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Replying To Past hurler:  "Same was tried in Tipp a few times, super fit county footballers tried their hand with the hurlers and didn't work out, the game is too fast.

Your first touch and striking has to be impeccable.
You can't have a weakness in your skillet playing against Liam McCarthy opposition or you'll be cleaned out.

Seamus Kennedy from Cashel came across from football but he was a quality hurler anyway and was playing Fitzgibbon cup.

Rory O'Connor gave up playing club football with the Martins to get the best out of himself and save his body hardship. Best decision he ever made.

A lot of lads don't want to play county football with
Wexford, it's not near as prestigious as being a Wexford hurler and I don't see that changing anytime sound."
Agree but that last paragraph is the nub of the problem. If some of these lads who honestly aren't quite good enough to play top level intercounty hurling, but are on the 26 currently based on engine, stamina or whatever, went over to the footballers, a sport they are a lot better at at club level, then maybe it would make playing football in the county more prestigious? I never said anyone from the football panel was good enough at hurling to make the hurling team currently BTW, the last I can think of as a possible might have been Ciaran Lyng?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14123 - 02/12/2024 22:59:33    2582134

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