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far too much negativity re this competition, i was there last Wednesday for the 2 matches, the double header is a great format, quality of football was good, top end of intermediate grade imo. too many on this forum picking holes in this comp re buy in and players etc, its a good outlet for players from smaller clubs and is worth supporting. its an innovative idea with plenty of good people involved at management and playing level and it deserves support

fred2 (Meath) - Posts: 25 - 04/11/2023 22:43:58    2511526

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Replying To browncows:  "Not sure what you mean by defensive football. Good teams have good defense but the present game is being ruined from within with all the back passing. Teams pushing an extra one or tow players into a defense are sure to win very little. You have a situation where everyone is marking everyone but nobody marking anyone with players gaining high stats but contributing nothing to the team. Kerry lost an AI being too negative and not contesting kick outs. If the county want to progress they most go back and play attacking football and get away from what we have been watching over the last 6-7 years. If you want to see what a player is capable off, you go and let him play football and judge him on all his attributes (work rate , mobility, fitness, skill set, reading of the game and ability to play as a team player. Good players are always alert and aware off what is around them and are able to see and kick accurately. Some guys play in a way that one would think they were wearing blinkers."
By defensive football I mean long periods of 13 and 14 men behind the ball. Both in our defensive and what we will face in attack. And absolutely not the Stone Age style we tried to play in the league

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1521 - 05/11/2023 00:00:02    2511528

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Replying To Meathman721:  "Only one club competition in Ireland has the regional championship in with the senior championship and its Kerry and its failing as there are very few club teams left in the Kerry senior championship as it's all regional teams competing. If anyone has seen the celebrations in the Kerry senior championship final last year it was a disgrace!

This is my take on how to add the regional teams to the senior championship.

Senior teams have four groups of four teams in each group. The bottom team of each group plays a semi-final of the relegation. The top two teams play the quarter-final as normal. Middle team that didn't qualify or has to play in the relegation semi-final. They will be entered into the regional championship and the losing teams in the quarter-final play in the regional championship as well and this competition will be played in September time. This gives junior and intermated teams to play against senior teams and gives senior teams more games and an opportunity to win a trophy at the end of the year.

This competition can be called the county championship."
Not true, divisional teams also play in Cork Senior football and hurling championships every year. In the past the Junior Football Board entered a team in the Dublin SFC. And North Meath actually won the Meath SFC in the early 50s.
Yes the individual senior clubs are now complaining because relegation has visited Tralee, nobody gave twoo hoots when rural clubs were relegated. For years now the low number of stand alone senior clubs in Kerry has completely skewed the Intermediate and Junior Club Championships but it took ages before the penny dropped in other counties. When we had 18 team SF and 20 team IF Championships our Intermediate and Junior champions were at a serious disadvantage when they came up against such teams that were rated 8th and possibly 20th in the Kerry pecking order.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1077 - 05/11/2023 10:00:17    2511537

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Got to watch one game. Terrible stuff not helped by conditions. If this is to survive I don't know what way is best going forward. Firstly Colm needs to stay out of how teams play in it and he should have zero input into it.
No sweeper no defensive set up and lob long ball in. I see some here love this. But can I ask do they really think this will help us going forward? Honestly?? Did we learn nothing from the league last year ? What good will playing open expansive football do us against a Gallagher managed Fermanagh? A mcgeeny managed Armagh ? Or against a mcguinness managed Donegal? Who may I add man for man we wouldn't be that far apart with.
In these games I would love to see a player that could break a blanket defense and do something special. That would merit their inclusion in panel. It doesn't matter how good you are physically or technically if you can't get the ball or cough up ball cause the principal has told you this is how it was done in his day. I hope this is not how we play in league otherwise rather than pushing for promotion we will be relegated

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/11/2023 10:02:40    2511538

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "By defensive football I mean long periods of 13 and 14 men behind the ball. Both in our defensive and what we will face in attack. And absolutely not the Stone Age style we tried to play in the league"
Stone Age football is where you get 14 players behind the ball with nobody playing football, a situation where there is no difference between a good player and a useless one. With 14 behind the ball everyone gets good stats in that they are passing the ball around (mostly backwards) but going nowhere. Maybe we should promote this handball and start a new game where kicking out numbers hand passing!

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 05/11/2023 13:17:42    2511564

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "By defensive football I mean long periods of 13 and 14 men behind the ball. Both in our defensive and what we will face in attack. And absolutely not the Stone Age style we tried to play in the league"
Exactly

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/11/2023 13:56:31    2511566

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Have any players stood out in the regional games yet who are worth a look on the county panel?

2020Vision (Meath) - Posts: 29 - 06/11/2023 09:48:51    2511680

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Replying To 2020Vision:  "Have any players stood out in the regional games yet who are worth a look on the county panel?"
Brian Reilly and Danny Dixon

Goldback (Meath) - Posts: 57 - 06/11/2023 11:00:54    2511702

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Replying To 2020Vision:  "Have any players stood out in the regional games yet who are worth a look on the county panel?"
Gilesnan from Blackwater has been my standout that man deserves a run with county next season the man is brilliant shot stopper and great man under the highball also great kickoouts if I recall he used to play with cavan great man with great experience

DamoTheRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 2 - 06/11/2023 14:17:37    2511760

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Still think it would be a good idea to incorporate a couple of regional teams into the Senior championship.

Would add a bit of something extra to it. Maybe run the regional championship as two group of 4 with the group winners both entering the senior championship.

Would add an awful lot of incentive to players playing for clubs who wouldn't necessarily get an opportunity to play senior football otherwise. And with the added goal of getting to play at a higher level, a lot of regions would be putting their best players forward.

I firmly believe some of those regions could be competitive in a senior championship given the opportunity.

hyperache (Meath) - Posts: 251 - 06/11/2023 15:19:32    2511778

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The weather this year has been terrible but there is not a lot we can do about the regionals scheduling. It'd be like saying the provincial club championships or our U19 and U15 championships shouldn't be played or finished off at this time of year. Some Novembers are bone dry, some are wash outs.
I don't know if I have seen too many stand out players. Obviously it is positive to see Cian McBride back and he just needs loads of football.
The one thing the regionals do is knock on the the head the old guff you used to hear about players from certain parts of the county not getting a fair chance. How many times did we hear that 'player x' should be playing for Meath? Now he is playing regional football and not making any waves.

Roger (Meath) - Posts: 478 - 06/11/2023 15:39:16    2511783

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Replying To DamoTheRoyal:  "Gilesnan from Blackwater has been my standout that man deserves a run with county next season the man is brilliant shot stopper and great man under the highball also great kickoouts if I recall he used to play with cavan great man with great experience"
So a fella who played in goals for Cavan nearly ten years ago is all that is being found out of this tournament so far? Great stuff.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 997 - 06/11/2023 15:43:49    2511784

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "So a fella who played in goals for Cavan nearly ten years ago is all that is being found out of this tournament so far? Great stuff."
Oh my lord

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 06/11/2023 16:14:04    2511793

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Has former Meath Junior goalkeeper Johnny Lynch from Moynalty not played both games in the sticks for Blackwater?

The_Ripper (Meath) - Posts: 183 - 06/11/2023 16:15:31    2511794

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Replying To The_Ripper:  "Has former Meath Junior goalkeeper Johnny Lynch from Moynalty not played both games in the sticks for Blackwater?"
Johnny gets a game if gilesnan is unavailable as he a great soccer keeper for trim this man is taking meath number jersey next season

DamoTheRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 2 - 06/11/2023 16:41:44    2511803

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Replying To browncows:  "Stone Age football is where you get 14 players behind the ball with nobody playing football, a situation where there is no difference between a good player and a useless one. With 14 behind the ball everyone gets good stats in that they are passing the ball around (mostly backwards) but going nowhere. Maybe we should promote this handball and start a new game where kicking out numbers hand passing!"
I'm not saying I like this style of football because I don't at all. But it's the reality of what football is. The teams we will play in the division 2 league next year will play this way. Dublin and Kerry play this way defensively while maybe keeping 2 men up. Derry and Monaghan made the semi finals last year playing exactly this way, my point is that the county manager telling the regional team managers to make sure they don't play defensively is nonsense. Firstly because it showed up the regional to just be trial games and a not a competition worth winning on its own. And secondly because it doesn't prepare these players for the type of game they'll face if any of them made the Meath team

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1521 - 07/11/2023 10:56:31    2511861

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meath manager is entitled to give them his opinion on how they should play and regional managers are entitled to ignore him.

Which they did by the looks of the games I was at.

Two regional games in my area have been really close and competitive game. All teams with good defensive set ups. Some players showing up well. Bowden looks the part.

truegael49 (Meath) - Posts: 14 - 07/11/2023 11:53:38    2511893

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Replying To DamoTheRoyal:  "Johnny gets a game if gilesnan is unavailable as he a great soccer keeper for trim this man is taking meath number jersey next season"
Ah OK, thanks for your notable contribution to this forum Damo

The_Ripper (Meath) - Posts: 183 - 07/11/2023 12:01:18    2511896

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The promotion of the competition is so bad. There's been nothing posted on the Meath GAA social media pages about this week's games. It 1:30 on Tuesday with 2 games tonight. Latest posts are score updates from the Summerhill and Naas game. Some people won't know the games are even on. Last week the only acknowledgement from Meath GAA that the games were going ahead on Wednesday came 15 minutes before throw in when the posted the teams. Even then the teams wore different numbers that advertised. If it wasn't for We Are Meath podcast, and the Meath Chronicle reports, there would be no coverage.

royal11 (Meath) - Posts: 102 - 07/11/2023 13:35:20    2511929

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Compared to last year the Regionals are an non event. Crowds are down and the whole feel to the competition isnt good. I have to say some of the games are good not the players and the management are putting it in. It is just where Meath GAA are with it.

ALLGAA32 (Meath) - Posts: 64 - 08/11/2023 14:53:11    2512118

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