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I am not saying it's all perfect. I was in Castlebar this year when as soon as the opening play developed the 14 Derry players turned and ran back inside their own half. That was a tight game to watch. But not every game is dull and boring.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8021 - 18/07/2024 11:01:47 2559864 Link 0 |
Great Post.Waste of time trying to reason with that lad. Maybe when they take him out of his diaper. If the same drivel comes out of that end that comes out of his mouth then he will be wearing it for another while. Obviously he has no clue of the stuff that we watched in the sixties and seventies. No disrespect to the players of that era but some of the games I watched were bordering on criminal with the thuggery involved. Scores were at a premium with a free every minute. In the past week I was in Croke Park for 4 games,attended 1 Senior, 2 Reserve and a Minor game in the County and I thoroughly enjoyed all 8 games. I enjoyed watching the Galway 3 in a row team of the sixties, the 6 in a row Dubs and have no doubt I will enjoy the Galway/Armagh game every bit as much. After that I will go to as many County Senior,Intermediate and Junior County Championships as possible. Some will be better than others but in each one, there will be 30+ young gaelic footballers on the field thoroughly enjoying playing for the parish. The game has evolved and will evolve and us true fans will evolve with it. That garsun in Cavan will likely continue to "watch" it on the Radio and dream of the Poli Grounds.
ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 306 - 18/07/2024 11:02:42 2559867 Link 0 |
Lads you're wasting your time. If he said something was black and it turned out it was white he'd say "I told you it was white". Everything exists to prove him right. It's bizarre Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12157 - 18/07/2024 11:41:54 2559874 Link 0 |
Interesting post. I'll get back to you on it later.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6117 - 18/07/2024 11:46:57 2559877 Link 0 |
I totally agree with you Flaker that every game is not poor to watch but you have to admit most of them are… The game you mention is a prime example and there's many… Even the sight of Kerry last week all scurrying back into defence when they lost the ball was terrible when you think of the way Kerry always played the game… and this game wasn't the worst to. watch in fairness…. The big problem I have with modern day football is that teams are setting up more ( coached ) to not lose a game rather than being set up ( the way they once were ) to win the game…. It's all negative thinking and tactics.. This is the way I see it and I know a lot of people agree with this view…. If you don't Flaker that's fine and you are entitled to your view and I respect that…!
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2680 - 18/07/2024 11:54:56 2559879 Link 0 |
Is the Poli grounds somewhere in Monaghan..? The county that has no All Irelands and never will have..!!!!
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2680 - 18/07/2024 11:57:39 2559880 Link 0 |
Funny how you picked out the last outside coach ever to win an All Ireland… all of a quarter of a century ago..? Just proves my point
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2680 - 18/07/2024 12:00:38 2559881 Link 0 |
I'd say you could do with a wash right enough
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2680 - 18/07/2024 12:02:01 2559883 Link 0 |
My overall point was towards club managers. You ignored everything else i said. Have you a problem with a club appointing an outside coach even within the same county? If you do then you really haven't a clue how things work. Also i will ask you again where did you read the stats that 80 per cent of managers are outsiders? It's amazing that something you used to frame and argument was so vital you can't remember where you saw it. It's almost as if the article never existed in the first place. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8021 - 18/07/2024 12:16:50 2559886 Link 1 |
As I said the percentage used in the article is irrelevant… it's the point that they shouldn't be used in the first place especially been paid.. and it is the same for a person within the county.. he is not coaching another club for the good of his health you know..!
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2680 - 18/07/2024 13:00:09 2559900 Link 0 |
Great post. I couldn't agree more.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6117 - 18/07/2024 13:15:46 2559903 Link 0 |
Some comparing football with hurling. Some scoring similarities but totally different sports in terms of skills, speed, physicality, spectators engagement. Soccer has innovated over the years with the technology of the football. Hurl to sliotar a way different momentum than kicking a gaelic football. If only a gaelic football could be designed for a bit more distance and accuracy from kicking but would nearly literally fall to the ground from the different momentum of a handpass. Would nearly penalise handpassing and encourage more kicking without too much extra work for match officials. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7564 - 18/07/2024 13:51:57 2559913 Link 0 |
2 who have not got a clue… Probably never went to a GAA match in their lives
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2680 - 18/07/2024 14:06:42 2559916 Link 0 |
The article doesn't exist and if it does your numbers are made up. The article you reference is very relevant if you are making stuff up. As for your second point. You are literally clueless as to what goes on behind the scenes. I coach another club 45 mins away. I don't live in Mayo by the way but i also don't coach my adopted club where i live. The club i played for is a senior club who have a brilliant manager. The likely scenario is that i succeed him but not for another 2 years. I am coaching an intermediate club to prove my worth as a coach and i believe i am proving that. I only get money for my mileage. Do you think that's me getting handy money? Have you any idea how little that is considering the time i put in? Not every coach is looking to make a second living. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8021 - 18/07/2024 14:14:26 2559918 Link 1 |
If I was a Louth man I'd be backing the County board 100%. There is a flagship senior County team there and a very positive feeling among the supporters, especially the youth. It's so important for Louth to nurture that positivity and obviously they know Devlin well and rate him so for me his appointment is not laughable(forever whatever) at all.
sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 775 - 18/07/2024 15:43:04 2559941 Link 0 |
Your situation is totally different and I commend you for that… you are coaching in your own club.. A situation like that is very rare.. I know severals who are making a second living from coaching other clubs rather than their own.. Some are charging over €200 a session so make the math up yourself… This is going on wholesale and if you think it's not then you are very naive…
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2680 - 18/07/2024 15:51:24 2559944 Link 0 |
The more traditionally successful counties have more very successful former players, and therefore are more likely to find some that might turn into decent coaches/managers. Therefore they are less likely to look outside for managers. That applies to clubs as well.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13296 - 18/07/2024 22:56:28 2559990 Link 0 |
Think you need to read my post again.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8021 - 19/07/2024 01:16:23 2559995 Link 0 |
Ah leave him be. The poor lad hasnt a clue what is happening. Makes outrageous statements without one shrewd of evidence to support his argument. A visit around the various forums will show that he is an army of one in all his losing battles. Unsuccessful at trying to have Cavan football dance to his tune he is now bringing his Walter Mitty stuff to a national level. Most clubs in our county have managers who receive the minimum in travelling expenses. For 95% of them, only their passion for the game keeps them putting in the effort year in year out. A far cry from that Cavan garsun who has never likely ever paid into a game or gave one minute of his time to a club. I have been involved with coaching for more years than I care to remember and like the majority my expenses far outweigh any few bob I got for petrol. In fact not one cent have I ever asked for. The GAA and it's wonderful games have been my passion since the day I watched on TV, John Donnellan captain Galway to the first of their 3 in a row. Any day I get to a game of any level is time well spent. There is no day I don't appreciate the effort put in by players and mentors for the love of their parish or county or just for their love of the game.
ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 306 - 19/07/2024 02:53:58 2559996 Link 0 |
Sure …. the Banty did it for the love of the game……. You are some delusional fool if you think outside coaches are not paid… Your still living in a bygone era long since gone …
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2680 - 19/07/2024 11:15:11 2560034 Link 0 |