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Easy to spot all the moaners on here that have obviously never played a game in their lives, they have absolutely no idea how fit you have to be to cover the ground a modern player does (corner backs running full pitch to chip in with scores, wing forwards or corner forwards tracking their man all the way back). The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 734 - 17/07/2024 10:18:38 2559689 Link 1 |
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It's the horrible style of football that is the problem.. continues backwards and sideways passing at a snails pace and everyone crowded into their own half.. Scoring averages are of absolutely no significance if one has to endure that dross for a whole game… less scores but more exciting play would help bring the punters back but you seem to be more happy with coaching players to bore the attendance asleep….
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2680 - 17/07/2024 10:30:28 2559695 Link 1 |
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I'm going to games since the mid-sixties and in general the sport is way better now than 60 years ago. Certainly there have been ups and downs over those years but if you watched most of the semifinals and finals (compared to now) you wouldn't go back. Watching some of those games now it's hard to believe the misses by some of the top fowards of the day from play and frees. Yes we do need to examine how to maybe limit the effectiveness of the new defensive systems but no matter what rule changes you make systems will evolve and be designed by managers to curtail attacking football if they believe it is to their team's advantage. We are being exposed to a lot more games on the media than we were back in the day when Micheál O'Hehir made them all sound brilliant on the radio. sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 775 - 17/07/2024 10:33:06 2559696 Link 2 |
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Amount of scores does not matter. And there we have it. Imagine tying to come up with rule changes for someone like yourself. Go back to your couch and watch reruns of All Ireland gold because you haven't a notion. You have a narrow view based on a small selection of games. As for my coaching style. You haven't a notion. Every game is different. Attendances are not low sometimes just because of the style of football. Especially at inter county level. There are too many games on in a short space of time with not enough jeopardy. People are picking and choosing their games. Especially with cost and games on tv as well. Your views are hilariously one eyed and simplistic. Who are these pundits by the way that back your opinion and have the opposite opinion to me? TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8021 - 17/07/2024 11:27:17 2559718 Link 2 |
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All the pundits say the game needs to change as it has become so boring … why in gods name has a new group been created to try and bring in rule changes… are you completely stupid or just too naive to realise the game is in trouble… attendance figures have fallen dramatically yet you can't see that either… Thank goodness the new president can see this and ignores the likes of you completely… Changes are on the way but if negative gombeen coaches like you are allowed to continue operating then the once great game won't be saved
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2680 - 17/07/2024 11:55:25 2559724 Link 1 |
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Minor changes are on the way. Not wholesale changes. You don't seem to understand that. And i have already said i am in favour of a couple of changes. You are so busy screaming at the sky you don't read posts. And there you go on attendances again. As if it's only to do with style of play. I am 40 years of age and have coached a minor team to a county championship and league title , and in the past 2 years coached a team to a league title and promotion and last year to an intermediate title. I am only coaching a few years. You think i get teams to achieve these things by playing defensively? Absolutely the opposite. You are stuck in the past and are a keyboard warrior. Most modern coaches are trying to evolve to find a new style of play. Not every coach is getting paid and implementing some painful style of play. Another line trotted out constantly. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8021 - 17/07/2024 12:38:38 2559730 Link 2 |
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It's all a matter of personal taste. I'm going to matches since the early seventies. I've been to 56 All Ireland senior football finals including replays. I've seen all the great teams and players on their biggest days over the last 52 years. Throughout all of that time it has been a national pastime to moan about football. The great Kerry team and the football they played was termed basketball. People complained about the amount of hand passes at that time too. Have a look at the attendances in the eighties and nineties. They were way down on what they are today. All sports evolve . Gaelic football is no different. Moaning about Gaelic football is a tradition. You're just maintaining that tradition. If you don't like it then don't look at it. I thoroughly enjoyed watching Armagh v Kerry in my local and I thoroughly enjoyed being at Galway v Donegal. What a weekend of football it was.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6117 - 17/07/2024 12:49:54 2559733 Link 3 |
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Attendances always dip and rise. There is so much more to compete with in modern life as well. The GAA isn't the be all and end all as it used to be when i was a kid. You are wasting your time talking to that ForeverBlue about attendances in the past. He will ignore it all.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8021 - 17/07/2024 13:03:01 2559736 Link 0 |
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People who don't accept that there is a problem with the modern game is like the man who drinks ten pints of porter every night but doesn't think he has a drink problem. Do you think Jarlath Burns set up the "review committee" for the crack. tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 312 - 17/07/2024 13:10:18 2559737 Link 0 |
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All outside coaches are being paid or are you totally naive as well as delusional…. Small changes to both structures and rules are being introduced for what reason would you think….? I will tell you.. because people are fed up with the dross they are expected to pay into and are therefore staying away… the paltry attendance figures at meaningless group games shows that…. If the GAA thought attendance figures were holding up as you do stupidity think do you think they would be going to all this bother to try and change things…. Have a bit of wit.. take your head out of the sand and give it a wobble… That's a good lad
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2680 - 17/07/2024 13:13:00 2559738 Link 1 |
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And there lies the problem, you want less scores yet not that long ago people were crying for more scores. Moan, moan, moan with you. Scores are what win games and you want less, you're some fool calling others stupid. The game is fine, a couple of tweaks surly but it's grand.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2123 - 17/07/2024 13:17:03 2559740 Link 2 |
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Since I was a child growing up in the early seventies people have been complaining about football and saying it has problems. It's been a national pastime for as long as I can remember. The great Kerry team of the seventies and eighties were complained about when they were playing. We all remember Pat Spillane and puke football twenty years ago. Then it was the dreaded blanket defence. There have been plenty of review and rules committees in my lifetime. No doubt after I'm gone people will still complain about football and it will continue to draw the biggest attendances.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6117 - 17/07/2024 13:38:45 2559745 Link 2 |
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It's you that's stupid… can you not read the point correctly… I said less scores would be acceptable if the games were more enjoyable and entertaining to watch… Just because there are lots of scores doesn't mean the game isn't played at a snails pace with backwards and sideways passing… Coaches have the game ruined with their keep ball tactics and millions of no risk passes boring everyone to tears… Every player is playing like a robot unable to express themselves or take a chance in case the dreaded stats man puts a mark down against them. how many of them turn back when within 20/30 meters from goal… ? Afraid to shoot... It's horrendous to watch and must be as frustrating to play…!
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2680 - 17/07/2024 14:02:18 2559748 Link 1 |
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I think you have unwittingly identified one of the main issues with the modern game when you say corner backs have to be super fit to cover the full pitch, corner backs shouldn't need to cover the full length of the pitch .
tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 312 - 17/07/2024 14:03:20 2559749 Link 0 |
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You repeat the same stuff over and over. Nobody is saying the game is perfect. There are always tweaks. You seem to think i am arguing against any changes. And you never acknowledge my points on attendance. Another poster now saying the same thing. It's not just the quality of football. There are so many more reasons. And i don't know do you post from a barstool or what but you rant away and don't read other people's posts. Where in my post about coaching do i say outside coaches don't get paid? You call me naive and delusional. Where did i claim they didn't get paid. I never even talked about money. So don't bother responding to me unless you actually read my posts. Keep screaming at the sky and watching games from the couch.....good lad. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8021 - 17/07/2024 14:11:07 2559750 Link 1 |
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A sensible poster who hasn't his/her head stuck in the sand … I think Flaker and the ORIELSMAM might be closing in on those 10pints a night going by the sort of stuff their posting…
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2680 - 17/07/2024 14:19:35 2559753 Link 0 |
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You said not all coaches get paid ( true ) and I merely pointed out to you that all outside coaches do get paid and are a blight on the game and it's delusional for anyone to say or think otherwise… It was reported somewhere that 8 out of 10 clubs now had an outside coach or manager…. If true then this is totally staggering when as shown at the top level outside managers/coaches win next to nothing
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2680 - 17/07/2024 14:32:11 2559756 Link 1 |
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Players roles have evolved. The fitness levels in all sports have improved hugely over the years. I remember back in 1974 one the things Kevin Heffernan did was massively improve Dublin's fitness levels. Mick O Dwyer did the exact same thing with Kerry the following year. Kerry won the All Ireland beating Dublin who were defending champions in the final. I was at those games. Because of the success of both Dublin and Kerry other counties followed suit and football changed very quickly in those years. Games are constantly evolving. People who don't like the changes complain. They did so back in 1975 and they are still complaining today.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6117 - 17/07/2024 16:00:08 2559769 Link 1 |
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You need to calm down and engage in some solitary reflection.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6117 - 17/07/2024 16:01:29 2559772 Link 3 |
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You need to stop engaging as you haven't got a clue if you think the modern game is not in trouble… All we have playing now are athletes who can't kick a ball over the bar from 30 meters out and who are not capable of kicking the ball from the ground… How on earth is this a sign of improvement.. Most players can run forever but lack the basic skills of the game… thanks in main to lazy defensive take no risk coaches..!
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2680 - 17/07/2024 16:26:56 2559774 Link 1 |