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Not sure, I fully understand - after the group draw, how do pot 3 & 4 teams have a better sense of the pot 1 & 2 teams they will play prior to the Prov Finals?
omahant (USA) - Posts: 2614 - 26/04/2024 02:18:18 2540696 Link 0 |
If a 3rd seed draw "Connacht winner" they can start planning a trip West rather than Dublin, Killarney or Ulster
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1438 - 26/04/2024 08:57:10 2540702 Link 0 |
Mayo knew last year they were playing the Munster champions. Teams missing out on the provincial finals week were being given certainty instead of the jeopardy of uncertainty for missing out on the provincial finals. On the fields of play, Tyrone and Donegal is a tough one to call. Armagh will be favourites but Down need the win for All-Ireland qualification. Kildare and Louth could go either way. Kildare need the win for All-Ireland qualification. If Down do happen to win on Saturday, Louth v Kildare is then an All-Ireland playoff. Louth are next in line after Westmeath to miss out on the All-Ireland, depending on results. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7871 - 26/04/2024 16:34:41 2540795 Link 0 |
Down lost to Armagh by a point. Armagh go onto the Ulster final. Down will have to plot a course through the Tailteann Cup. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7871 - 27/04/2024 19:20:15 2540994 Link 0 |
Game today in Clones - was just like Clones - shocking !! cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1676 - 27/04/2024 20:43:44 2541020 Link 0 |
A game Down should have won, but a young Down team on the up , but jus their manager is a happy go lucky type of fella always smiling and joking fair play to him
germac (Down) - Posts: 535 - 27/04/2024 20:44:42 2541021 Link 0 |
I suppose McGeeney would have the excuses at the ready had ye lost, referee was bad, virus in the camp, dog ate my homework etc etc. Hard to believe Down went so long without scoring at the end. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2756 - 27/04/2024 22:02:27 2541057 Link 0 |
Kildare 0-13 Louth 0-17. Louth go onto to the Leinster final. Kildare are heading for the Tailteann Cup. Louth and Dublin are the only two Leinster counties to stay above Tailteann Cup level. The Tailteann is nearly becoming the answer to what the Leinster championship will be without Dublin. Westmeath and Meath have already had Tailteann success. Possibly Kildare are next? legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7871 - 28/04/2024 15:43:02 2541174 Link 0 |
Leinster have 4 teams in the All Ireland. Dublin, Louth, Meath and Westmeath (or Offaly if they beat Dublin). This is more teams than Connacht or Munster. skirge7 (UK) - Posts: 251 - 28/04/2024 16:01:44 2541183 Link 0 |
Munster has 3 of 6, Connacht 3 of 5 (sorry London and New York) and Ulster has 6 of 9. Leinster has 4 of 11.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7871 - 28/04/2024 16:22:22 2541190 Link 1 |
Think our lads gave a great effort. Some poor game management and very tired legs effectively cost us the match. That and McShane staying on the field for so long. Jesus but how many balls did he give away or put wide in the first half? Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 28/04/2024 16:26:08 2541193 Link 1 |
There is 11 counties in Leinster, and only 16 places in the entire Sam Maguire competition. Leinster is never really going to have anymore than 5 or 6. So roughly 50% participation from each province seems the norm. Obviously that's going to vary from year to year as Ulster but that seems a good target to aim for. Connacht has 3/6 btw, you can't discount London because technically they can qualify - London got to the Connacht final in 2013 and that would qualify them. I don't think they have doomed to the Tailteann Cup like New York are hyperache (Meath) - Posts: 208 - 29/04/2024 10:13:48 2541392 Link 0 |
But Dublin or Kerry as near-certain Prov Champs could equally assume the group they will play in too.
omahant (USA) - Posts: 2614 - 29/04/2024 13:23:48 2541477 Link 0 |
AIC Group Stage omahant (USA) - Posts: 2614 - 29/04/2024 13:57:13 2541489 Link 0 |
I would like to see Oisín and Wicklow do it.
omahant (USA) - Posts: 2614 - 29/04/2024 15:10:11 2541530 Link 0 |
The problem is that seeding being based totally on the league would give absolutely zero incentive for teams to get to a provincial final. Rightly or wrongly, the provincials are still part of the championship so it would be very odd to have the outcome of a separate competition (the league) overriding the outcome of part of the championship. Although, actually to some extent, that's already happening. For example, Cavan beat Monaghan in the championship and yet they will be in a lower seeding pot (4) to them (pot 3). It's all a bit of a mess.
CeachtPeile (Cavan) - Posts: 104 - 29/04/2024 15:45:02 2541541 Link 0 |
Maybe not crystal clear but my words below intended to keep the Prov link, with each Finalist earning a Sam "berth" albeit without a seeding influence. "....with group formation separately restricted as Prov Champs and losing Finalists are kept apart like now, regardless of seeding...." omahant (USA) - Posts: 2614 - 29/04/2024 18:58:14 2541609 Link 0 |
The problem is provincial championships are not fit for purpose and never have been. It's so absolutely ridiculous that anyone thinks they should stay.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7907 - 29/04/2024 19:51:22 2541614 Link 0 |