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Shinty-Hurling Series To Return In October

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The GAA is has announced the return of the Shinty/ Hurling International Exhibition match, which will see Ireland take on Scotland in a composite rules game for the first time since 2019.

This event will be held at Páirc Esler in Newry on Saturday October 21. The Shinty/Hurling International Exhibition match has been a long-standing tradition, bringing together top talents from both Scotland and Ireland.

***Is anyone looking forward to this?!?

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2260 - 17/09/2023 19:36:50    2504530

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I have never been able to make a game but keep an eye on it every year regardless. Amazing skill from the Scottish lads.
I'm surprised it does not get more interest than it does. It's the only time any hurlers will get to wear an Ireland shirt and that must surely be a great point of pride for the players involved.

35OLT (USA) - Posts: 99 - 17/09/2023 20:27:48    2504543

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Have never been to one of these matches myself, but have watched on TG4, and would go sometime if it was somewhere relatively convenient to Wexford and I wasn't tied up in club games that day.

I think part of the reason it doesn't get more attention is that the last few Ireland teams have been made up of players from the lower tiers of the championship (i.e. Joe McDonagh Cup downwards), rather than household names from the Liam McCarthy Cup sides.

No disrespect to anybody involved, and I'm not suggesting there's anything wrong with that....am just putting it forward as a possible reason for why there's not more interest in it.

Anyway, will watch again this year if TG4 are showing it. But I won't travel to Newry for it!

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2621 - 18/09/2023 09:20:36    2504570

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I see the IRELAND HURLING SQUAD and to be honest I've never heard of 90% of them. Why bother with this if we don't have the BEST POSSIBLE HURLERS there?!? What's the point?!?

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2260 - 06/10/2023 02:57:51    2507105

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Great game was lucky enough to play this twice. Would highly recommend going to it if anyone can.

Think selection is to give players from the weaker counties the chance to play with Ireland and also tbh if we where to pick our best players game wouldn't be close.

ITSCHOLAR (Carlow) - Posts: 302 - 06/10/2023 09:46:40    2507116

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Replying To Trump2020:  "I see the IRELAND HURLING SQUAD and to be honest I've never heard of 90% of them. Why bother with this if we don't have the BEST POSSIBLE HURLERS there?!? What's the point?!?"
I've thought that every year it was on tbh.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 06/10/2023 09:48:35    2507118

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Replying To Trump2020:  "I see the IRELAND HURLING SQUAD and to be honest I've never heard of 90% of them. Why bother with this if we don't have the BEST POSSIBLE HURLERS there?!? What's the point?!?"
To be fair I think that's to make a contest of it.

If you were to send the all starts it would be a waste of everyone's time

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3142 - 06/10/2023 10:08:30    2507120

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To be honest, I'm even surprised to see a few names I actually recognise in the squad, like Pádraig Walsh of Kilkenny and the Clare and Cork lads. Ireland teams of the past have generally been made up exclusively of players from the lower tier counties.

For example, there's a man who finished up playing for Buffers Alley here in Wexford, who lived and played in Kildare before moving here. He was on the Ireland team for three or four years in a row, about 15 years ago when he was a Kildare hurler. But he would never even have come into serious reckoning for a place with Wexford after he moved here (and he wouldn't mind me saying that himself).

But hey, he's still an Ireland international, which is more than most of us could ever say!

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2621 - 06/10/2023 11:17:11    2507131

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Replying To Trump2020:  "I see the IRELAND HURLING SQUAD and to be honest I've never heard of 90% of them. Why bother with this if we don't have the BEST POSSIBLE HURLERS there?!? What's the point?!?"
TJ Reid played in it a few years ago and was septic, he couldn't get used to the Shinty rules at all, the two Kerry lads on the team were mikes better than him.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 804 - 06/10/2023 12:27:37    2507142

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Replying To Trump2020:  "I see the IRELAND HURLING SQUAD and to be honest I've never heard of 90% of them. Why bother with this if we don't have the BEST POSSIBLE HURLERS there?!? What's the point?!?"
It would be a chance for some of the Galway lads to win something, for sure.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3118 - 06/10/2023 13:29:23    2507157

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Replying To Trump2020:  "I see the IRELAND HURLING SQUAD and to be honest I've never heard of 90% of them. Why bother with this if we don't have the BEST POSSIBLE HURLERS there?!? What's the point?!?"
Apologies, mistook you for Kayser with whom I exchange insults :-)

Seriously though, it is good way to recognise lads from counties that rarely if ever see a big stage.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3118 - 06/10/2023 13:31:41    2507158

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It is not much of a game and truth be told, many top players are still involved in club activity.
I know 2 county players who declined the offer. Playing it in Newry wouldn't exactly entice Cork or Limerick players up now would it!

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1785 - 06/10/2023 14:40:19    2507171

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The game got too uncompetitive for awhile so Ireland had to stop picking lads from top Liam McCarthy counties iirc.

It's mainly limited to lads outside the top tier now and is more competitive for it.

An enjoyable game to watch, the Scottish lads have some strike off the ground with their camán.

Any "hurling" that was played in Ulster, North Leinster before the foundation of the GAA was essentially the same as Shinty in Scotland today but was killed off by the codifying of the game basically just being the game as was played further south. Hence the lack of hurling in most places north of the Eiscir Riada today.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13779 - 06/10/2023 19:28:46    2507205

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Replying To MesAmis:  "The game got too uncompetitive for awhile so Ireland had to stop picking lads from top Liam McCarthy counties iirc.

It's mainly limited to lads outside the top tier now and is more competitive for it.

An enjoyable game to watch, the Scottish lads have some strike off the ground with their camán.

Any "hurling" that was played in Ulster, North Leinster before the foundation of the GAA was essentially the same as Shinty in Scotland today but was killed off by the codifying of the game basically just being the game as was played further south. Hence the lack of hurling in most places north of the Eiscir Riada today."
Doesn't sound like it took a lot to kill it off. After the game was codified, did the north Leinster /Ulster players have a collective hissy fit or what?

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1953 - 07/10/2023 07:49:59    2507218

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Doesn't sound like it took a lot to kill it off. After the game was codified, did the north Leinster /Ulster players have a collective hissy fit or what?"
Poorer land more suited to a big ball?
The South Leinster/Munster stuff was more suited to big dry fields.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1950 - 07/10/2023 09:53:15    2507224

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "It would be a chance for some of the Galway lads to win something, for sure."
Maybe more Dublin hurlers should make themselves available then.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1472 - 07/10/2023 10:13:24    2507226

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Replying To oneoff:  "Maybe more Dublin hurlers should make themselves available then."
That would have been the sort of response i was expecting from Katser, so thank you for channelling him, if not his wit :-)

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3118 - 07/10/2023 12:21:06    2507240

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "It is not much of a game and truth be told, many top players are still involved in club activity.
I know 2 county players who declined the offer. Playing it in Newry wouldn't exactly entice Cork or Limerick players up now would it!"
I agree with you. Both codes on their own are fantastic but how can you have a game where some of the rules and sticks used are different for both teams? Shinty guys can whip the ball over the bar from the half way line, our lads couldn't do that with hurleys, then our lads can't strike from the hand and have to strike off the hurley. Just seems like far too many differences than similarities.
That said I know climates of mine that have played in these games and it was a massive honour for them as it is any guy who gets picked for it. But I can understand it's not for everyone either.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2085 - 07/10/2023 15:55:21    2507259

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I don't know why they bother with it, the fact that it is played before a Down intermediate final shows the level of interest in it. Also is it not technically an insult to be selected for the team? the selectors are essentially telling you that you aren't a big name in hurling as previous posters have said that they can't pick big names.

PattyONeill (Derry) - Posts: 246 - 08/10/2023 12:13:17    2507323

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Replying To PattyONeill:  "I don't know why they bother with it, the fact that it is played before a Down intermediate final shows the level of interest in it. Also is it not technically an insult to be selected for the team? the selectors are essentially telling you that you aren't a big name in hurling as previous posters have said that they can't pick big names."
What did yous ever do without Internet?

Monaghanlad (Monaghan) - Posts: 30 - 08/10/2023 12:41:54    2507324

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