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2023 Limerick V 2009 Kilkenny Fantasy Match

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If possible a fantasy all Ireland final between the 4 in a row winning limerick team of 2023 and 4 in a row winning 2009 Kilkenny team

Nicky quaid
Mike Casey marking Aidan Fogarty
Dan Morrissey marking Richie Power
Barry Nash marking Eddie Brennan

Diarmuid Byrnes marking Richie Hogan
Declan Hannon marking Henry Shefflin
Kyle Hayes marking Eoin Larkin

Will o Donohue marking Michael Rice
Darragh O Donovan marking Derek Lyng

Geroid Hegarty marking John Tennyson
Cian Lynch marking Brian Hogan
Tom Morrissey marking Tommy Walsh

Aaron Gillane marking JJ Delaney
Seamus Flanagan marking Jackie Tyrell
Peter Casey Marking Michael Kavanagh
PJ Ryan

Subs for Kilkenny
Noel Hickey
Cha Fitzpatrick
Michael Fennelly
Martin Comerford
TJ Reid

Subs for Limerick
David Reidy
Graeme Mulcahy
Cathal o Neil
Aaron Costello
Barry Murphy


Imagine the battles all over the field. It would be End to end for 70+ mins non stop
And then the 5 subs to come on are just as worthy of starting places themselves

Debating can go on forever on who would win but I think it is just too hard to call. But it would be one game that would be absolute box office

camánouttathat (Wexford) - Posts: 46 - 28/07/2023 11:54:47    2497415

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Replying To camánouttathat:  "If possible a fantasy all Ireland final between the 4 in a row winning limerick team of 2023 and 4 in a row winning 2009 Kilkenny team

Nicky quaid
Mike Casey marking Aidan Fogarty
Dan Morrissey marking Richie Power
Barry Nash marking Eddie Brennan

Diarmuid Byrnes marking Richie Hogan
Declan Hannon marking Henry Shefflin
Kyle Hayes marking Eoin Larkin

Will o Donohue marking Michael Rice
Darragh O Donovan marking Derek Lyng

Geroid Hegarty marking John Tennyson
Cian Lynch marking Brian Hogan
Tom Morrissey marking Tommy Walsh

Aaron Gillane marking JJ Delaney
Seamus Flanagan marking Jackie Tyrell
Peter Casey Marking Michael Kavanagh
PJ Ryan

Subs for Kilkenny
Noel Hickey
Cha Fitzpatrick
Michael Fennelly
Martin Comerford
TJ Reid

Subs for Limerick
David Reidy
Graeme Mulcahy
Cathal o Neil
Aaron Costello
Barry Murphy


Imagine the battles all over the field. It would be End to end for 70+ mins non stop
And then the 5 subs to come on are just as worthy of starting places themselves

Debating can go on forever on who would win but I think it is just too hard to call. But it would be one game that would be absolute box office"
Of course its a hypothetical debate. I might have some recency bias , but the Limerick starting 15 seems stronger than KK.
However the KK subs list was savage and as strong as the Limerick bench is that KK bench was far stronger and if these guys were all fit and able to start then that has to indicate how good the first 15 were.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 819 - 28/07/2023 12:06:40    2497420

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Replying To anotheralias:  "Of course its a hypothetical debate. I might have some recency bias , but the Limerick starting 15 seems stronger than KK.
However the KK subs list was savage and as strong as the Limerick bench is that KK bench was far stronger and if these guys were all fit and able to start then that has to indicate how good the first 15 were."
I'd love to see gillane and Delaney under a high ball at the edge of the square or Larkin and Kyle Hayes going toe to toe up and down the line or king Henry on Dec Hannon. There are such great ball winners on both team and then strong runners such as Larkin,Lyng and Hayes,hegarty. Hard to know would it be a high scoring game or low scoring cause the backs on both sides are as strong as the forwards

camánouttathat (Wexford) - Posts: 46 - 28/07/2023 13:20:34    2497437

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Replying To camánouttathat:  "If possible a fantasy all Ireland final between the 4 in a row winning limerick team of 2023 and 4 in a row winning 2009 Kilkenny team

Nicky quaid
Mike Casey marking Aidan Fogarty
Dan Morrissey marking Richie Power
Barry Nash marking Eddie Brennan

Diarmuid Byrnes marking Richie Hogan
Declan Hannon marking Henry Shefflin
Kyle Hayes marking Eoin Larkin

Will o Donohue marking Michael Rice
Darragh O Donovan marking Derek Lyng

Geroid Hegarty marking John Tennyson
Cian Lynch marking Brian Hogan
Tom Morrissey marking Tommy Walsh

Aaron Gillane marking JJ Delaney
Seamus Flanagan marking Jackie Tyrell
Peter Casey Marking Michael Kavanagh
PJ Ryan

Subs for Kilkenny
Noel Hickey
Cha Fitzpatrick
Michael Fennelly
Martin Comerford
TJ Reid

Subs for Limerick
David Reidy
Graeme Mulcahy
Cathal o Neil
Aaron Costello
Barry Murphy


Imagine the battles all over the field. It would be End to end for 70+ mins non stop
And then the 5 subs to come on are just as worthy of starting places themselves

Debating can go on forever on who would win but I think it is just too hard to call. But it would be one game that would be absolute box office"
If it's the Limerick team from the final, then Hannon wouldn't be in it, but if it's from this year in general then it should have Seán Finn in it. He's the best corner-back in the country in my opinion. I'd live to have seen him go up against the likes of Eddie Brennan.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 1987 - 28/07/2023 13:50:32    2497450

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Replying To camánouttathat:  "If possible a fantasy all Ireland final between the 4 in a row winning limerick team of 2023 and 4 in a row winning 2009 Kilkenny team

Nicky quaid
Mike Casey marking Aidan Fogarty
Dan Morrissey marking Richie Power
Barry Nash marking Eddie Brennan

Diarmuid Byrnes marking Richie Hogan
Declan Hannon marking Henry Shefflin
Kyle Hayes marking Eoin Larkin

Will o Donohue marking Michael Rice
Darragh O Donovan marking Derek Lyng

Geroid Hegarty marking John Tennyson
Cian Lynch marking Brian Hogan
Tom Morrissey marking Tommy Walsh

Aaron Gillane marking JJ Delaney
Seamus Flanagan marking Jackie Tyrell
Peter Casey Marking Michael Kavanagh
PJ Ryan

Subs for Kilkenny
Noel Hickey
Cha Fitzpatrick
Michael Fennelly
Martin Comerford
TJ Reid

Subs for Limerick
David Reidy
Graeme Mulcahy
Cathal o Neil
Aaron Costello
Barry Murphy


Imagine the battles all over the field. It would be End to end for 70+ mins non stop
And then the 5 subs to come on are just as worthy of starting places themselves

Debating can go on forever on who would win but I think it is just too hard to call. But it would be one game that would be absolute box office"
IF your being fair to the Limerick 4 in a row team, then Sean Finn has to be Cornerback marking Aidan Fogarty with Mike Casey dropping to the bench in place of Aaron Costello. Also Richie English added to the bench for Barry Murphy and Suddenly the Limerick bench looks much stronger then your bench.

Given that Limerick have a habit of making adjustments to their team depending on the Circumstances (for example bring in Mike Casey Full Back, Move Dan Morrisey to Wing back move Kyle Hayes to centre forward or full forward (like they did against Cork last year)) it would be very difficult to figure out how they would get on against the Great Kilkenny team but it would be some match i'd say

LimerickandProud (Limerick) - Posts: 29 - 28/07/2023 14:03:13    2497456

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Replying To LimerickandProud:  "IF your being fair to the Limerick 4 in a row team, then Sean Finn has to be Cornerback marking Aidan Fogarty with Mike Casey dropping to the bench in place of Aaron Costello. Also Richie English added to the bench for Barry Murphy and Suddenly the Limerick bench looks much stronger then your bench.

Given that Limerick have a habit of making adjustments to their team depending on the Circumstances (for example bring in Mike Casey Full Back, Move Dan Morrisey to Wing back move Kyle Hayes to centre forward or full forward (like they did against Cork last year)) it would be very difficult to figure out how they would get on against the Great Kilkenny team but it would be some match i'd say"
Oh I agree with Sean Finn. I left him out just for the fact he was out all year but yes he should be in it. Richie English more of an oversight really but agree him on the bench would make it a lot stronger. Even another part of the whole drama would be Cody and kiely on the sidelines. 2 great motivators and both who have teams who you aren't beaten until you're on the bus home

camánouttathat (Wexford) - Posts: 46 - 28/07/2023 14:55:16    2497473

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Replying To camánouttathat:  "Oh I agree with Sean Finn. I left him out just for the fact he was out all year but yes he should be in it. Richie English more of an oversight really but agree him on the bench would make it a lot stronger. Even another part of the whole drama would be Cody and kiely on the sidelines. 2 great motivators and both who have teams who you aren't beaten until you're on the bus home"
To be fair Finn was their a nice chunk of the year.

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 770 - 28/07/2023 20:03:16    2497512

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Replying To cityman73:  "To be fair Finn was their a nice chunk of the year."
He missed the while championship didn't he?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11118 - 29/07/2023 11:16:30    2497554

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Replying To Viking66:  "He missed the while championship didn't he?"
He played against Waterford and the first half v Clare

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4252 - 29/07/2023 14:15:48    2497579

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Replying To Viking66:  "He missed the while championship didn't he?"
He got injured just before half time in the Clare game if I remember correctly. That was the 2nd game of the Round Robin.

Limerick2018 (Limerick) - Posts: 61 - 29/07/2023 15:20:52    2497584

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "He played against Waterford and the first half v Clare"
Sorry slight exaggeration on my part. He missed nearly the whole championship.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11118 - 30/07/2023 12:43:23    2497684

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Limerick would win handy

Kinvara (Galway) - Posts: 109 - 31/07/2023 08:16:56    2497912

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