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All Ireland Final 2023 - Dublin V Kerry

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Replying To Saynothing: "We know you meant 45 but the foul on Clifford earlier was overruled as well. Usually forwards get the benefit but he overruled himself after going to umpires." That was a massive call by the ref… but he got it wrong by throwing the ball up… He should have restarted the game with Kerry in possession back down the field where he blew up first… A Dublin score came from the throw up…. He went running in and gave Dublin a free in the first half for far less … ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1974 - 31/07/2023 08:53:27 2497916 Link
Replying To galwayford: "This win buys the GAA some time. But the problems of Leinster and Munster remain, too one sided both Kerry and Dubs win all the time. And lack of wins for Connacht teams. GAA badly needs a Connacht team to win this competition in my view." A Connacht team will win Sam when they are good enough. eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1683 - 31/07/2023 09:05:27 2497919 Link
Replying To festinog: "Not sure on what my county of origin has anything tondi with it? For all the talk about DC he offered little today other than a lot of coulda, shoulda, woulda's. Am I wrong?" Yes you are most definitely wrong. He kicked a few points gave a sublime pass for the goal and if any other forward did that it would be regarded as a good days work. He missed a few and that only showed he isn't infallible. When you consistently carry the team on your back you see how good they are when he has an off day. He is still class eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1683 - 31/07/2023 09:10:43 2497920 Link
Was at the game yesterday, after a very poor first half, very entertaining second half, difference was game management of Fenton, Kilkenny, Mccarthy mccaffrey and mannion imo. Kerry decision making poor and too slow in possession. Also a big shout out to referee who bottled a few key decisions and his umpires for failing to award both teams 45s. totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 924 - 31/07/2023 09:27:55 2497922 Link
Replying To CiarraiMick: "Ah look I'm very disappointed but no complaints. Dublin deserved their win today in a tough battle. Hope Realdub Mesamis Avonali Username Waynol etc enjoying it all. While disappointed massive respect to Dublin and James Mac in particular. Enjoy folks" Fair Play Mick. Wow - what a game, and what a win. Absolutely over the moon with this victory. I think, like many, this one was the sweetest of them all. What a day to be on the Hill. Overjoyed to be honest. Hard luck kerry, but the returning cavalry & rest of the team, clearly had a point to prove to bring Sam back. I think Dublin deserved the win tbh, and we should have been ahead at half time. Battled back well and kept Kerry to just 2pts in last 25mins to our 7. To win the All Ireland from been relegated last year and playing Div 2 this year was remarkable. Timed the run perfectly and went Unbeaten in this Championship run. I will keep my more detailed post for the Dublin GAA thread. :o) Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3743 - 31/07/2023 09:35:20 2497923 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "Looking at the Paul Geaney goal it was unbelievable thinking from him. He knew the split second he attempted the second bounce that it was a foul and tapped the ball into his hands with his foot. Unreal." Unbelievable thinking from him your right! But by the laws of the game it was a double bounce and a free out! Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 399 - 31/07/2023 09:35:39 2497924 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "Kerry beat Tyrone in Quarterfinal with David Clifford putting his weight about , and against Derry the same. no complaints. Today it was Dublin and as the panel say, took their tackling to the limit while Kerry stood back." I counted 6 "accidental" head contacts by Dublin players on Kerry players all of which would be red cards in rugby. Most were dealt with by the ref as per the rule as yellows as they were "accidental". Surely this isn't a good thing though. Perhaps there should be a warning to the captain like in rugby or automatically have any contact to the head upgraded to a black? brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 292 - 31/07/2023 09:47:02 2497926 Link
After all the medals and AIs these Dublin players have won, more than most counties have won in their history, it's hard to fathom the moaning and baby crying from 'some of them' in the last two or so years, behaving like spoiled children whose toys were taken off them. Then the bawling, navel gazing and bragging after the final whistle yesterday...yuck! Spare a thought for the great footballers and hurlers from other counties who would die happy to have won just once... No wonder Colm O' Rourke told James McCarthy, after the last time Dublin trounced Meath, to ** Off and retire and give other teams a chance to win. baire (Galway)** - Posts: 1846 - 31/07/2023 10:33:14 2497939 Link
Replying To Temple56: "Unbelievable thinking from him your right! But by the laws of the game it was a double bounce and a free out!" It's not a bounce unless it comes straight back to his hands. From the rule book Important Terms and Definitions - Football and Hurling The following list of Definitions of Terms used in the Playing Rules forms an integral part of these rules. 1. BOUNCE For a player who has caught the ball to play the ball against the ground with his hand(s) and to catch it on return to his hand(s) again. BlastCalyle (Mayo) - Posts: 206 - 31/07/2023 10:40:34 2497941 Link
Congratulations to Dublin. They are an extraordinary bunch of players. As a Meath man I hate the Dublin team but I respect these players and their honesty of effort and commitment to improving themsleves as players. The talk of "a tough couple of years" is nauseating. 2 easy Leinster titles and 2 semi final losses (1 after extra time and 1 by a point) is not a tough couple of years. And the booing of Gough having won the all Ireland was embarrassing and doesn't belong in GAA at all. It can be difficult to disentangle the brilliant likeable team from the casual supporters (not the club people and diehards) and the overall supports they got from the GAA in terms of finances and home games in Croke Park. But those players are without doubt the best team in football history and deserve all the credit in the world LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1470 - 31/07/2023 10:51:14 2497947 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "That was a massive call by the ref… but he got it wrong by throwing the ball up… He should have restarted the game with Kerry in possession back down the field where he blew up first… A Dublin score came from the throw up…. He went running in and gave Dublin a free in the first half for far less …" The free he gave to Dublin for a similar incident was for a clear pull on the forward, when he was trying to get away. The replay confirmed it was absolutely correct. When the replay showed the Clifford / Fitzsimons incident, it showed Clifford pulling the shoulder first then Fitzsimons, so it probably should have been a free out, not a hop ball. If you're going through debatable individual incidents here and there, we'll be here all day. Mannion was tripped in the first half when trying go pick up the ball and it wasn't given. It would have been a very scorable free. I thought Gough had a good game. He let a lot of contact go on both sides and stayed consistent with that, so the players knew where they stood. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2065 - 31/07/2023 10:51:19 2497948 Link
Replying To Temple56: "Unbelievable thinking from him your right! But by the laws of the game it was a double bounce and a free out!" Not once he played it with his foot. A bounce is when you catch it directly from the ground. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1462 - 31/07/2023 10:56:53 2497951 Link
Replying To brianb: "I counted 6 "accidental" head contacts by Dublin players on Kerry players all of which would be red cards in rugby. Most were dealt with by the ref as per the rule as yellows as they were "accidental". Surely this isn't a good thing though. Perhaps there should be a warning to the captain like in rugby or automatically have any contact to the head upgraded to a black?" And the most obvious black card not issued! Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1462 - 31/07/2023 10:57:41 2497952 Link
Congrats to Dublin, with Cluxton, Rock, possibly Fitzsimons and Mc Carthy stepping away they are irreplaceable, I'd think Dublin could be waiting a while for another Sam.. Might give the rest of us a chance! Belclare (Galway) - Posts: 904 - 31/07/2023 11:10:57 2497959 Link
Replying To Temple56: "Unbelievable thinking from him your right! But by the laws of the game it was a double bounce and a free out!" You won't get many thumbs up for that fella, but I'm inclined to agree with you. Imagine allowing that happen in a solo run out of defence, bounce the ball to beat the first man, bounce again to beat second except touch it with the foot, and so on. He had control of the ball at all times.. IE two hops. What he did was con the referee and bend the rules, some don't seem to mind that. Question is can you deliberately hop the ball a second time and knee it or chest it into your hands. Answer is No mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1045 - 31/07/2023 11:29:21 2497963 Link
Replying To Belclare: "Congrats to Dublin, with Cluxton, Rock, possibly Fitzsimons and Mc Carthy stepping away they are irreplaceable, I'd think Dublin could be waiting a while for another Sam.. Might give the rest of us a chance!" Philly McMahon, Johnny Cooper, Rory O'Carroll, Cian O'Sullivan, Denis Bastick, Michael Dara, Alan and Bernard Brogan, Diarmuid Connolly, Paul Flynn, Kev Mc, and many more have moved on and been replaced seemlessly. Dublin aren't going anywhere. They might lose the odd semi final or final by a point or 2 but they're winning 6 or 7 All Irelands a decade for the rest of our lives and that's just something we will have to get used to. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5026 - 31/07/2023 11:34:58 2497969 Link
Replying To Fionn: "Fair Play Mick. Wow - what a game, and what a win. Absolutely over the moon with this victory. I think, like many, this one was the sweetest of them all. What a day to be on the Hill. Overjoyed to be honest. Hard luck kerry, but the returning cavalry & rest of the team, clearly had a point to prove to bring Sam back. I think Dublin deserved the win tbh, and we should have been ahead at half time. Battled back well and kept Kerry to just 2pts in last 25mins to our 7. To win the All Ireland from been relegated last year and playing Div 2 this year was remarkable. Timed the run perfectly and went Unbeaten in this Championship run. I will keep my more detailed post for the Dublin GAA thread. :o)" Enjoy Fionn. No complaints here. We got a bit of luck last year that deserted us today. Even Paul Murphy s great attempt to block Paddy Small probably gave Shane Ryan less chance of saving but that's the bit of luck. Having said that Dublin deserved their win. Can't begrudge James Mccarthy lifting the cup. One man that deserves that honour. Just was hoping it was nt yesterday but cest lá vie.As Muhammed Ali said once "in triumoh we shall return". We look forward to next year but now is Dublin's time. Enjoy! CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3686 - 31/07/2023 11:37:28 2497971 Link
Replying To Belclare: "Congrats to Dublin, with Cluxton, Rock, possibly Fitzsimons and Mc Carthy stepping away they are irreplaceable, I'd think Dublin could be waiting a while for another Sam.. Might give the rest of us a chance!" You may be correct. Perhaps Con, CK and CC and Lee might get a call from your own county man over the Winter :-) BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2652 - 31/07/2023 11:37:52 2497972 Link
Replying To Belclare: "Congrats to Dublin, with Cluxton, Rock, possibly Fitzsimons and Mc Carthy stepping away they are irreplaceable, I'd think Dublin could be waiting a while for another Sam.. Might give the rest of us a chance!" Could be 2026 before they win it again.. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1462 - 31/07/2023 11:46:25 2497975 Link
Dublin deserved this - but let's be honest it was shocking first half - 4 points to 3 after 29 mins - both sides very negative and defensive, both goals were questionable- one a deflection and the other a double bounce On a positive side - cluxton was unreal - it was a pleasure to be there to witness his greatness - Referee wasn't great either . I though sean o Shea worked very hard - but Clifford was off form and maybe Kerry rely too much on him If this was Derry v monaghan - it would have been a poor final - but Kerry csn and do play negative football too cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1676 - 31/07/2023 11:46:38 2497976 Link