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Not to bad in round 1 but a few teams did surprise me, hopefully closer to a full house this weekend
Group A
Dunshaughlin vs Na Fianna: Dunshaughlin
Na Fianna surprised me the last week in beating the Ha, managed well without Walsh and defensively stodd up well against a decent set f forwards. Dunshaughlin edged out a tight game against Ashbourne, but losing Niall Murphy will be a massive blow to them. I think this will be another very close game for them but they will just about come out the right side of a one score game in the end.

Donaghmore/Ashbourne vs Curragha: Don/Ash
A poor performance against Dunshaughlin last week and yet they still could have won the game. Didn't take advanatge of Grays black card. Curragha have the forwards to trouble Ashboure just as Dunshaughlin did but I think they won't have the defenders to keep out the Ashbourne attack. I think Ashbourne should win comfortably but as I said last week, it depends on what Ashbourne show up.

Group B
Dunboyne vs Simonstown: Simonstown
A good win last week for both teams, Lenihan leading the line excellently for Dunboyne, while Simonstown did as I though and parked the bus to frustrate Trim and win a low scoring affair. Leno away on his honeymoon isn't ideal preparation and I think another display or defensive counter attacking football from Simonstown will see them eek out another low scoring victory to make it 2 from 2..

Trim vs Seneschalstown: Trim
Win or gone in this one so could be an absolute shoot out or just as easily be a tight cagey affair. Trim need to make the space for Lynch do do his damage. Senchalstown beaten by Lenihan basically and face another team with one main attacking threat. IF they shut him down they can win easily but I'm not to sure if they can so I will edge to a Trim win by the smallest of margins

Group C
Moynalvey vs St Colmcilles: Cilles
Moynalvey far more impressive than I had imagined against Ratoath and while they never looked like troubling the Champions, they were not blown away by any stretch of the imagination. Cilles were very poor against Skryne and against a better attacking team would have lost. If Moynalvey can stay solid defensively and get O Sullivan and McLoughlin on the ball they could potentially cause a shock but I don't imagine Cilles will be that poor two games in a row so will go with them for the win.

Ratoath vs Skyrne: Ratoath
Ratoath never came out of second gear in round one and this will be no different. Injuries to McGill from last week only adds to a crowded physio room but they will have to much depth and talent at their disposal for a very average Skryne team.

Group D
Summerhill vs Wolfe tones: Summerhill
Tones surprised I think everyone by the manner in which they beat Kells. They look better than I had given them credit for and will give the Hill a much tougher test than I would have predicted 2 weeks ago, however I still don't think they will win. Summerhill were slow to get going against a well drilled and decent Bracks team, however when they got going they showed they are by no means willing to just allow Ratoath take another county title and will be in around the mix once again come the end of the year.

Kells vs Ballinabrackey: Bracks
I couldn't believe how badly beaten Kells were against Tones and would ordinarily be saying that they would be looking to bounce back with a vengeance, however I think the Bracks are a team that nobody will want to play when the NEED a win. Kells missing the Reillys massively and although hes a good player still, have no apparent replacement or heir to Beano who at 36 (I think) is not the player he once was. I think the Bracks will set up to frustrate Kells and pick them off near the end of the game

ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 585 - 08/08/2023 14:39:38    2499544

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Is there a reason why the county board don't do a weekend pass.

If you wanted to go to games on Friday,Saturday, Sunday afternoon and evening it would cost you 40e

Would they not look at a pass for the weekend for 25 or something?

dnewlad (Meath) - Posts: 137 - 08/08/2023 15:38:46    2499567

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Replying To ratlag:  "Not to bad in round 1 but a few teams did surprise me, hopefully closer to a full house this weekend
Group A
Dunshaughlin vs Na Fianna: Dunshaughlin
Na Fianna surprised me the last week in beating the Ha, managed well without Walsh and defensively stodd up well against a decent set f forwards. Dunshaughlin edged out a tight game against Ashbourne, but losing Niall Murphy will be a massive blow to them. I think this will be another very close game for them but they will just about come out the right side of a one score game in the end.

Donaghmore/Ashbourne vs Curragha: Don/Ash
A poor performance against Dunshaughlin last week and yet they still could have won the game. Didn't take advanatge of Grays black card. Curragha have the forwards to trouble Ashboure just as Dunshaughlin did but I think they won't have the defenders to keep out the Ashbourne attack. I think Ashbourne should win comfortably but as I said last week, it depends on what Ashbourne show up.

Group B
Dunboyne vs Simonstown: Simonstown
A good win last week for both teams, Lenihan leading the line excellently for Dunboyne, while Simonstown did as I though and parked the bus to frustrate Trim and win a low scoring affair. Leno away on his honeymoon isn't ideal preparation and I think another display or defensive counter attacking football from Simonstown will see them eek out another low scoring victory to make it 2 from 2..

Trim vs Seneschalstown: Trim
Win or gone in this one so could be an absolute shoot out or just as easily be a tight cagey affair. Trim need to make the space for Lynch do do his damage. Senchalstown beaten by Lenihan basically and face another team with one main attacking threat. IF they shut him down they can win easily but I'm not to sure if they can so I will edge to a Trim win by the smallest of margins

Group C
Moynalvey vs St Colmcilles: Cilles
Moynalvey far more impressive than I had imagined against Ratoath and while they never looked like troubling the Champions, they were not blown away by any stretch of the imagination. Cilles were very poor against Skryne and against a better attacking team would have lost. If Moynalvey can stay solid defensively and get O Sullivan and McLoughlin on the ball they could potentially cause a shock but I don't imagine Cilles will be that poor two games in a row so will go with them for the win.

Ratoath vs Skyrne: Ratoath
Ratoath never came out of second gear in round one and this will be no different. Injuries to McGill from last week only adds to a crowded physio room but they will have to much depth and talent at their disposal for a very average Skryne team.

Group D
Summerhill vs Wolfe tones: Summerhill
Tones surprised I think everyone by the manner in which they beat Kells. They look better than I had given them credit for and will give the Hill a much tougher test than I would have predicted 2 weeks ago, however I still don't think they will win. Summerhill were slow to get going against a well drilled and decent Bracks team, however when they got going they showed they are by no means willing to just allow Ratoath take another county title and will be in around the mix once again come the end of the year.

Kells vs Ballinabrackey: Bracks
I couldn't believe how badly beaten Kells were against Tones and would ordinarily be saying that they would be looking to bounce back with a vengeance, however I think the Bracks are a team that nobody will want to play when the NEED a win. Kells missing the Reillys massively and although hes a good player still, have no apparent replacement or heir to Beano who at 36 (I think) is not the player he once was. I think the Bracks will set up to frustrate Kells and pick them off near the end of the game"
Group A - Agree with both Dunshaughlin and Don/Ash

Group B - Think Dunboyne will take Simonstown - and I think the Furze men will beat a depleted Trim (told a few have gone travelling?) team!

Group C - I think these will be both close games but agree that Cilles will have a little much for Moynalvey and ratoath a little much for Skyrne - but only just!

Group D - Summerhill to edge the game with Tones and Ballinabrackey to beat a fading Kells team!!

Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 519 - 08/08/2023 17:00:30    2499592

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As a neutral living in Meath I see quiet a na fianna agenda on this tread . In the last few years they've been bet by Wolfe tones ratoath etc yet seem to be tipped to get bet out the gate by the weaker teams this year curraha , last year trim , Dunboyne , bracks . It seems to be a team nobody wants to credit . Probably won't win it out but the 2 teams they lost to last year were summerhill and ratoath the county champions.

Pead0bum84 (Meath) - Posts: 26 - 09/08/2023 13:26:01    2499721

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Predictions
Group A

Naf to beat dunsh by 4
Curraha to draw with Ashbourne

Group B
Dunboyne to beat simonstown by 7
Sench to beat trim by 4

Group C
Ratoath to beat skryne by 11
St. Colmcilles to beat moynalvey by 9

Group D
Ballinabrakey to beat kells by 6
Summerhill to beat Wolfe tones by 3

Pead0bum84 (Meath) - Posts: 26 - 09/08/2023 13:29:38    2499723

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Replying To Pead0bum84:  "Predictions
Group A

Naf to beat dunsh by 4
Curraha to draw with Ashbourne

Group B
Dunboyne to beat simonstown by 7
Sench to beat trim by 4

Group C
Ratoath to beat skryne by 11
St. Colmcilles to beat moynalvey by 9

Group D
Ballinabrakey to beat kells by 6
Summerhill to beat Wolfe tones by 3"
Predictions Group A

Na Fianna to beat dunshaughlin - Na Fianna have a lot of experience but close
Ashbourne to beat Currragha - Ashbourne to much this time round

Group B Dunboyne to beat simonstown - draw , even enough
Trim to beat Seneshalstown - heard chick missing so tips balance to trim

Group C Ratoath to beat skryne - think ratoath will be too good for everyone this year

St. Colmcilles to beat moynalvey - cilles will win late enough . Moynalvey not strong on the bench this year

Group D

Kells to beat bracks - expect backlash from previous weeks for kells

Hill v tones - draw

Bear10 (Meath) - Posts: 463 - 09/08/2023 13:55:18    2499730

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Replying To Pead0bum84:  "As a neutral living in Meath I see quiet a na fianna agenda on this tread . In the last few years they've been bet by Wolfe tones ratoath etc yet seem to be tipped to get bet out the gate by the weaker teams this year curraha , last year trim , Dunboyne , bracks . It seems to be a team nobody wants to credit . Probably won't win it out but the 2 teams they lost to last year were summerhill and ratoath the county champions."
So where is the Na Fianna agenda?

Just because people tip them to lose games and they end up winning them doesn't mean there is an agenda against them. It just means a lot of us aren't very good at predicting results

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1077 - 09/08/2023 14:04:27    2499732

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "So where is the Na Fianna agenda?

Just because people tip them to lose games and they end up winning them doesn't mean there is an agenda against them. It just means a lot of us aren't very good at predicting results"
You'd have to wonder why people think they'll constantly get bet ? And it's by teams that In recent years have never beaten them in championship.

Pead0bum84 (Meath) - Posts: 26 - 09/08/2023 18:16:45    2499794

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Replying To ratlag:  "Not to bad in round 1 but a few teams did surprise me, hopefully closer to a full house this weekend
Group A
Dunshaughlin vs Na Fianna: Dunshaughlin
Na Fianna surprised me the last week in beating the Ha, managed well without Walsh and defensively stodd up well against a decent set f forwards. Dunshaughlin edged out a tight game against Ashbourne, but losing Niall Murphy will be a massive blow to them. I think this will be another very close game for them but they will just about come out the right side of a one score game in the end.

Donaghmore/Ashbourne vs Curragha: Don/Ash
A poor performance against Dunshaughlin last week and yet they still could have won the game. Didn't take advanatge of Grays black card. Curragha have the forwards to trouble Ashboure just as Dunshaughlin did but I think they won't have the defenders to keep out the Ashbourne attack. I think Ashbourne should win comfortably but as I said last week, it depends on what Ashbourne show up.

Group B
Dunboyne vs Simonstown: Simonstown
A good win last week for both teams, Lenihan leading the line excellently for Dunboyne, while Simonstown did as I though and parked the bus to frustrate Trim and win a low scoring affair. Leno away on his honeymoon isn't ideal preparation and I think another display or defensive counter attacking football from Simonstown will see them eek out another low scoring victory to make it 2 from 2..

Trim vs Seneschalstown: Trim
Win or gone in this one so could be an absolute shoot out or just as easily be a tight cagey affair. Trim need to make the space for Lynch do do his damage. Senchalstown beaten by Lenihan basically and face another team with one main attacking threat. IF they shut him down they can win easily but I'm not to sure if they can so I will edge to a Trim win by the smallest of margins

Group C
Moynalvey vs St Colmcilles: Cilles
Moynalvey far more impressive than I had imagined against Ratoath and while they never looked like troubling the Champions, they were not blown away by any stretch of the imagination. Cilles were very poor against Skryne and against a better attacking team would have lost. If Moynalvey can stay solid defensively and get O Sullivan and McLoughlin on the ball they could potentially cause a shock but I don't imagine Cilles will be that poor two games in a row so will go with them for the win.

Ratoath vs Skyrne: Ratoath
Ratoath never came out of second gear in round one and this will be no different. Injuries to McGill from last week only adds to a crowded physio room but they will have to much depth and talent at their disposal for a very average Skryne team.

Group D
Summerhill vs Wolfe tones: Summerhill
Tones surprised I think everyone by the manner in which they beat Kells. They look better than I had given them credit for and will give the Hill a much tougher test than I would have predicted 2 weeks ago, however I still don't think they will win. Summerhill were slow to get going against a well drilled and decent Bracks team, however when they got going they showed they are by no means willing to just allow Ratoath take another county title and will be in around the mix once again come the end of the year.

Kells vs Ballinabrackey: Bracks
I couldn't believe how badly beaten Kells were against Tones and would ordinarily be saying that they would be looking to bounce back with a vengeance, however I think the Bracks are a team that nobody will want to play when the NEED a win. Kells missing the Reillys massively and although hes a good player still, have no apparent replacement or heir to Beano who at 36 (I think) is not the player he once was. I think the Bracks will set up to frustrate Kells and pick them off near the end of the game"
Na Fianna to scrape past Dunshauglin and book their place in the quarters
I fancy Donaghmore/Ash to bounce back and keep their qualification hopes alive

Dunboyne to also book their place in the quarters leaving Simonstown needing a win in the last round
Trim to just edge out Senchalstown and send them into another relegation battle.

Cilles will have a bit too much firing power for Moynalvey in this one.
Ratoath to win but not as comfortable as everyone will think, Cup final for Skyrne and they will put up a decent fight.

Summerhill and Tones probably the tie of the round, both teams will guarantee a quarter spot with a win so I expect a great contest. The way The Hill finished out the game in Rd 1 was impressive and know how to defend a lead, So ill just side with The Hill.

Bracks and Kells will both be very disappointed with their second half displays in Rd 1, I'm hoping my beloved Bracks can get the job done but will be a dogfight, but I'm also hoping The Hill win the early kick off as if the Tones win this will leave this game a dead rubber in my opinion. Even if we win and beat Tones our score difference will fall short as The Hill will beat Kells in last round.

thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1098 - 09/08/2023 22:22:26    2499815

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Replying To Pead0bum84:  "You'd have to wonder why people think they'll constantly get bet ? And it's by teams that In recent years have never beaten them in championship."
It was same for Blackhall when they were decent. Most Meath GAA people, including journalists are not from south Meath - so Kildare border teams get little interest and there is not much knowledge of the best players etc. Na Fianna in my opinion have 3rd best team in Meath (not that you'd think it on here!) and a decent motivator and competent manager in Cormac Davy.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1352 - 10/08/2023 19:41:11    2499986

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Replying To Crinigan:  "It was same for Blackhall when they were decent. Most Meath GAA people, including journalists are not from south Meath - so Kildare border teams get little interest and there is not much knowledge of the best players etc. Na Fianna in my opinion have 3rd best team in Meath (not that you'd think it on here!) and a decent motivator and competent manager in Cormac Davy."
I really do get hard to see how you can come to that conclusion, the 3rd best team in Meath?
They are in a weak group and Dunshaughlin should be way too strong for Na Fianna and even more so as the game is in Pairc Tailteann, where if the young Dunshaughlin forwards hit form it could end up being a big winning margin.
With Shane Walsh gone which is really unfortunate for Na Fianna, there is no comparison between having a 37 year old leading the Na Fianna attack and having Matthew Costello, Ruairi Kinsella at 11 and younger rising stars the other end against a weak Na Fianna defence.
The other game Ashbourne and Curraha should be close and looks to be a very attractive fixture, as the loser will probably be dumped out of the Keegan Cup. I will stick my neck out and pick the Ha to win.

Meathball (Meath) - Posts: 140 - 11/08/2023 12:14:22    2500048

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Replying To Crinigan:  "It was same for Blackhall when they were decent. Most Meath GAA people, including journalists are not from south Meath - so Kildare border teams get little interest and there is not much knowledge of the best players etc. Na Fianna in my opinion have 3rd best team in Meath (not that you'd think it on here!) and a decent motivator and competent manager in Cormac Davy."
That's your opinion and thats fine but there is literally nothing to suggest that Na Fianna anywhere near the 3rd best team in Meath. They are streets behind both Ratoath and Summerhill, and then I would also put them behind Wolfe Tones and Dunboyne, and maybe on a level par with the likes of St. Colmcilles, Ashbourne, Dunshaughlin, Simonstown and Kells.
I thought they would struggle for scores without Walsh against Curragha and thats why I thought they would lose a close game, but instead they won (a still close game). They're a consistent Quarter/Semi final team but they never seem to come through against the top teams each year hence why they would be seen as a top 5-8 team rather than a top 4.

ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 585 - 11/08/2023 12:37:38    2500053

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Replying To Crinigan:  "It was same for Blackhall when they were decent. Most Meath GAA people, including journalists are not from south Meath - so Kildare border teams get little interest and there is not much knowledge of the best players etc. Na Fianna in my opinion have 3rd best team in Meath (not that you'd think it on here!) and a decent motivator and competent manager in Cormac Davy."
Dont know how you think they are the third best team in Meath on current form, they finished 8th in the league and I dont think they had too many on the Meath panel.
They are an average enough team and with a favourable draw could sneak a semi final like last year but that's as far as they will get.
All this talk of bias, we hear the same for North Meath clubs, Dublin border teams etc...

Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 586 - 11/08/2023 16:44:44    2500107

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Replying To Crinigan:  "It was same for Blackhall when they were decent. Most Meath GAA people, including journalists are not from south Meath - so Kildare border teams get little interest and there is not much knowledge of the best players etc. Na Fianna in my opinion have 3rd best team in Meath (not that you'd think it on here!) and a decent motivator and competent manager in Cormac Davy."
This aged well!!!!!!

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1077 - 11/08/2023 21:18:11    2500123

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "This aged well!!!!!!"
They got beaten by a very good Dunsaughlin team by a few points and are missing their best player. Hardly a hammering is it? Then again nuance wouldn't be your strong point. You're a tabloid poster.

They got to the semi finals last year (making them a top 4 team on paper). Not quite sure why so many taken aback that Na Fianna are in my opinion prob 3rd best team in Meath on paper (with Walsh got obviously). As if it's an accolade to proud of in any case!

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1352 - 12/08/2023 00:10:50    2500136

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Replying To Crinigan:  "They got beaten by a very good Dunsaughlin team by a few points and are missing their best player. Hardly a hammering is it? Then again nuance wouldn't be your strong point. You're a tabloid poster.

They got to the semi finals last year (making them a top 4 team on paper). Not quite sure why so many taken aback that Na Fianna are in my opinion prob 3rd best team in Meath on paper (with Walsh got obviously). As if it's an accolade to proud of in any case!"
They got bet my a very average dunshaughlin team who played most of the match without their best player.
Making a semi final doesn't make them a top 4 team as they made it due to the luck of the draw and should have been well bet in the quarter final.
Last nights performance is where they are at and they are on the decline.

Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 586 - 12/08/2023 11:14:05    2500168

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Replying To Crinigan:  "They got beaten by a very good Dunsaughlin team by a few points and are missing their best player. Hardly a hammering is it? Then again nuance wouldn't be your strong point. You're a tabloid poster.

They got to the semi finals last year (making them a top 4 team on paper). Not quite sure why so many taken aback that Na Fianna are in my opinion prob 3rd best team in Meath on paper (with Walsh got obviously). As if it's an accolade to proud of in any case!"
I wouldn't exactly say Dunshaughlin are
"Very good"

Awaywin (Meath) - Posts: 117 - 12/08/2023 11:53:12    2500171

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not a fan of betting overall but definetly not a fan of this current handicap and full betting on local club matches , not a good advertisement for our youth and open to games been thrown . especially in dead rubber games its only leading to bigger problems , gaa shud step in and stop it

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1990 - 12/08/2023 12:38:48    2500177

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Replying To Crinigan:  "They got beaten by a very good Dunsaughlin team by a few points and are missing their best player. Hardly a hammering is it? Then again nuance wouldn't be your strong point. You're a tabloid poster.

They got to the semi finals last year (making them a top 4 team on paper). Not quite sure why so many taken aback that Na Fianna are in my opinion prob 3rd best team in Meath on paper (with Walsh got obviously). As if it's an accolade to proud of in any case!"
Someones a bit touchy and has to resort to personal insults. That's no problem at all I won't hold it against you as to be fair I can almost see your rage coming through in your post... lol

Keep on trucking lad.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1077 - 12/08/2023 13:28:06    2500186

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Few shocks last night, especially at Intermediate. Nobber and Drumbaragh with huge wins, both were probably favs for relegation before the game.

St Pat's were outstanding too, they beat a good Meath Hill side comfortably, scoreline flatter Meath Hill a bit because Pats were definitely superior.

From what I've seen so far, Rathkenny are a cut above the rest at Intermediate and my favs to win outright, will be interesting to see how they get on against NOM tomorrow. St Pat's and Duleek are probably best of the rest.

Thought that was a big result for Dunshaughlin last night too, Na Fianna are a very solid senior team and they always seemed to be in control. Ruairi Kinsella is a very good talent and it was good to see him hit 1-3 from play. Not sure how bad Conor Gray's injury is though, would be a big loss for them if he were to go.

Colmcille's disappointing too, thought they might have too much firepower but couldn't put the game to bed.

hyperache (Meath) - Posts: 271 - 12/08/2023 14:38:21    2500195

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