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Interesting and unusual stat I worked out was Limerick have scored 3 less points than their opponents so far this season, 135 scored and 138 against..the difference is in the goals. 4 conceded and 9 scored.. Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 22/07/2023 14:14:41 2496129 Link 0 |
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While Kilkenny averaged at 3-25 per game (leaving out the 22 point win over Westmeath) conceding average of 2-23..thats a +5 difference..Limerick have had way more tighter games, averaging 2-23 for and 0-23 exactly against. Thats a +6 difference. That said, I think Kilkennys scoring is higher and while no disrespect to their opponents to date, they did score abit more freely in less competitive games..they will be up against a different type of opposition tomorrow over all..I think Limerick will win by 2-27 to 2-22.. Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 22/07/2023 14:28:36 2496133 Link 0 |
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Actually forgot this was on tomorrow. The lowest key build up I can remember. Perhaps Donal og is completely wrong on hurlings relevance? royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 22/07/2023 14:34:07 2496134 Link 0 |
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Donal og just loves himself,he should take a leaf out of the rock's book.
cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 775 - 22/07/2023 15:09:10 2496138 Link 0 |
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I think if Limerick can come away with a win against Kilkenny without their captain and C/B Declan Hannon and a rearranged mid field pairing along with English named on the bench they will be worthy all Ireland champions, I believe they can do it.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 22/07/2023 15:49:14 2496145 Link 0 |
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True
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 22/07/2023 15:50:19 2496147 Link 0 |
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tiobraid, can you confirm that if tomorrow's game ends in a draw, after extra-time. That there will be another round of predictions for the replay?
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2474 - 22/07/2023 17:21:37 2496156 Link 0 |
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As far as I can see online. If its a draw after normal time , no extra time will be played. Replay Saturday August 5th
Limerick2018 (Limerick) - Posts: 76 - 22/07/2023 17:40:16 2496162 Link 1 |
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Limerick to win by 5 points! Leading by two in a very tight game and they go upfield a get a goal with last shot of the game! Luimneach Abu. foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1914 - 22/07/2023 17:44:04 2496163 Link 0 |
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Thanks, you're right (I checked).
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2474 - 22/07/2023 18:27:35 2496168 Link 0 |
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More MONEY for the GAA. NO BRAINER.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2124 - 22/07/2023 23:01:43 2496198 Link 0 |
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However should the football final end in a draw at the end of normal time it then goes to extra time for a result. Who makes those decisions and don't make sense.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 23/07/2023 09:57:01 2496218 Link 0 |
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That's mad if true. No doubt there is some other "cultural" even that they have booked for the rest of August.
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2564 - 23/07/2023 10:10:44 2496219 Link 0 |
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I think a lot of people have lost interest in the intercounty scene. Yes people will tune in and watch matches but most neutrals won't attend the final which wasn't the case in the past; why? I think it is down to the cheoregraphed nature of modern matches and the fact it is contested by such a small amount of counties. It is '98 since a leinster team other than Kilkenny contested an All Ireland. This at a time when the bulk of the population now live in Leinster.
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1910 - 23/07/2023 11:11:29 2496229 Link 0 |
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Offaly 2000 was the last real Leinster County outside of Kilkenny, Galway have played in 12,15,17,18 since they've been introduced (be a bit of stretch to count their 01 and 05 as Leinster county) but still its only Kilkenny, Tipp and by today Limerick who've played in more in that time. Wexford been in 5 semi finals and Dublin in 2 as well so it hasn't been some huge huge gap that way. Since 2000, it's basically been Kilkenny, Tipp, Galway, Limerick and Cork who've made up most of the all Ireland finals and even then it's only Kilkenny who've gone less than 4 between finals, Tipp, 01-09 no final, Galway 05-12 no final, Limerick 07-18 no final, Cork 06-13, 13-21 no final. It's usually just two or 3 stand out teams over a 4 or so year time frame that make up the finals nearly every year. Cork/Kilkenny 00s, Tipp/Kilkenny/Galway 10s. Throw in the odd outside County who might beat one of them. Offaly in 2000,Waterford in 08, Waterford in 17, Clare in 02, Cork/Clare in 13, Galway in 05. Currently in a Limerick/Kilkenny being the two who always make finals. It's all cylical. Only constant seems to be Kilkenny in all this and until the last 15 years, Cork were always like that too. Who knows who'll be the main 2 or 3 teams in 5 years time.
Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 259 - 23/07/2023 11:44:26 2496230 Link 0 |
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Apart from the 90s and Wexford's 2 in the 50s and 60s KK have totally dominated Leinster hurling throughout its history. The highest population is in the pale and until recently most of them had barely heard of such a 'barbaric game'. It was hurling folk from Munster, KK and Galway who played and promoted the game in Dublin. Unfortunately some of the most skilful Dublin born players in recent times opted for football instead of hurling.
baire (Galway) - Posts: 1805 - 23/07/2023 12:06:08 2496232 Link 0 |
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Two Leinster teams in the 1998 Final. You are correct about the lack of interest by neutrals in today's final. The cost of travel and meals on final days means the neutral prefers to watch at home. The finalists face the same expenses.
thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1741 - 23/07/2023 12:27:38 2496234 Link 0 |
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The last Dublin team to contest a senior final was in 1961. All Dubs other than Paddy Croke from Tipp. You are correct about the football being the greater attraction which took some of the best players of that 1961 team into Heffo's 1963 football team that won All Ireland. Just on historical note, Wexford have more All Irelands than yourselves despite being in the province of the most successful county. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2564 - 23/07/2023 12:41:35 2496236 Link 0 |
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Unless you have a relative you can stay with , the cost of an overnight or weekend stay anywhere near Dublin now is hugely prohibitive. Even if all the hotels tied into government contracts became available for paying customers again, July is peak tourist season so accommodation prices would still be too high for the majority of ordinary fans. I heard a lot of talk in the media bemoaning the fact that the tradition of All Ireland finalists staying in the city and having the after match banquet in Dublin on Sunday night as well as the tradition of the winning captain bringing the cup to the Childrens' Hospital in Crumlin has now gone but what do they expect? Moving the All Ireland finals to July , to the height of the tourist season and highest accommodation costs was always going to do that even if there weren't other factors at play.
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 23/07/2023 13:06:15 2496238 Link 1 |
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"On a historical note, Wexford have more All Irelands than yourselves". What's your point? It's not that either county has a dozen or more AIs! How can you compare their fortunes considering the lop-sidedness of the provincial system historically? If it's games that help teams to develop, Wexford had a clear advantage in Leinster, playing KK, Dublin, Offaly or Laois whilst Galway had no such luxury in Connacht. Why don't you compare like with like? Compare their success rate since 2009 for instance. Anyway today is about Limerick and KK, the two best teams in Ireland. I hope it's an exciting game and that hurling is the winner! baire (Galway) - Posts: 1805 - 23/07/2023 13:49:18 2496244 Link 1 |