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Joe McDonagh Cup 2023

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Replying To keeper7: "I remember when my own county's hurlers reached the Lory Meagher Final the first time & seeing the paltry effort the county board here made to see it as an opportunity to really promote hurling in our county. It was more or less left to the 3 hurling clubs themselves. No appetite, will or imagination." Yet I'm sure there was plenty of CB hangers on in Croke Park for the actual game. oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1616 - 25/05/2023 10:59:09 2481459 Link
Offaly outrages favourite's. Offaly 4 / 11 Carlow 15 / 8 Are they expecting it to be over by half time. ? supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3178 - 25/05/2023 13:31:28 2481506 Link
Replying To supersub15: "Offaly outrages favourite's. Offaly 4 / 11 Carlow 15 / 8 Are they expecting it to be over by half time. ?" Offaly are the form team. Division 2A winners and a 100% record after Round 4. Round 5 was irrelevant for Offaly. Offaly beat Laois and Kerry. Carlow beat Offaly B. Carlow are well capable of winning but Offaly are rightly and understandably favourites. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8773 - 25/05/2023 14:08:17 2481523 Link
Replying To sam1884: "I alluded to it on another thread but reading your post I'd say it is similar. Whatever the arguments for or against the split season, the GAA is really struggling to get it's place in a sporting press at it's peak time of the year. European Finals, tournament soccer, end of season finals, league programmes finishing etc all have to get space. The Munster senior championship has been the best ever in my opinion but it's more about going looking for the games than the media having significant coverage. The reality is if the Munster Senior Championship is struggling in a crowded press sector then whilst the Joe McDonagh Championship is a great tournament it is going to be pushed further down the priority list. This is the reality for the new GAA season." New season is a joke. Suits a few elite players so the GPA are on board and they can head off for their jolly boys outings later in the year. The AI finals should be in August. End of. Overthebar53 (Carlow) - Posts: 340 - 25/05/2023 14:27:51 2481532 Link
Replying To Overthebar53: "New season is a joke. Suits a few elite players so the GPA are on board and they can head off for their jolly boys outings later in the year. The AI finals should be in August. End of." Stop being paranoid, new season was introduced to give exclusive time for Club Chamoonships. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2292 - 25/05/2023 15:06:44 2481549 Link
Replying To Overthebar53: "New season is a joke. Suits a few elite players so the GPA are on board and they can head off for their jolly boys outings later in the year. The AI finals should be in August. End of." Or back to September. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3506 - 25/05/2023 15:22:32 2481556 Link
Replying To supersub15: "Offaly outrages favourite's. Offaly 4 / 11 Carlow 15 / 8 Are they expecting it to be over by half time. ?" If you think Carlow have a chance then 15/8 is a good price. Although should be 5/2 if it was a truer book. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3506 - 25/05/2023 15:25:11 2481557 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "If you think Carlow have a chance then 15/8 is a good price. Although should be 5/2 if it was a truer book." Bookies are making so. Wouldn't be like them; ) Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15669 - 25/05/2023 17:10:19 2481597 Link
Replying To Overthebar53: "New season is a joke. Suits a few elite players so the GPA are on board and they can head off for their jolly boys outings later in the year. The AI finals should be in August. End of." When are you proposing club championships are played then? Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15669 - 25/05/2023 17:11:15 2481599 Link
I don't mind what odds Carlow are. Bookies don't win hurling matches, hurlers do. If Carlow turn up and perform as they can I believe they will win. Ceatharlach Abu! Unusedsub (Carlow) - Posts: 116 - 25/05/2023 18:50:53 2481613 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Bookies are making so. Wouldn't be like them; )" Punters move the prices from the odds set but GAA betting is distorted here by their only really being one bookie. Odds on short priced favourites are sometimes good value and you will see teams backed from 2/5 to 1/4 at times, but there's no value in backing teams that ought to be 5/2 priced at 15/8. In any event, the bookie in question will not take the sort of money on GAA matches that you would get on a horse, because they have no way of laying it off. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3506 - 26/05/2023 09:55:23 2481663 Link
All the prices I see have Carlow at 9/4, don't know where 15/8 is coming from. hurlingguru (Carlow) - Posts: 1838 - 26/05/2023 10:15:10 2481667 Link
Replying To hurlingguru: "All the prices I see have Carlow at 9/4, don't know where 15/8 is coming from." As posted by supersub above. I think that was correct at time of posting. 9/4 mildly attractive. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3506 - 26/05/2023 10:37:01 2481673 Link
Replying To Viking66: "When are you proposing club championships are played then?" It is a good question. The point was more about the lack of media coverage for the Joe McDonagh Cup tournament or the final in particular. The split season does help clubs to some extent, provides an opportunity for a percentage of elite players to spend the summer in the US (not immediately returning to clubs) but the evidence is clear the GAA inter county championships are being run off during the sports press peak time of the year. Joe McDonagh Cup doesn't stand a chance in getting any coverage, the championships in general are struggling to find space in the media. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 26/05/2023 10:43:00 2481675 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "If you think Carlow have a chance then 15/8 is a good price. Although should be 5/2 if it was a truer book." Done. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3178 - 26/05/2023 10:50:52 2481678 Link
Replying To sam1884: "It is a good question. The point was more about the lack of media coverage for the Joe McDonagh Cup tournament or the final in particular. The split season does help clubs to some extent, provides an opportunity for a percentage of elite players to spend the summer in the US (not immediately returning to clubs) but the evidence is clear the GAA inter county championships are being run off during the sports press peak time of the year. Joe McDonagh Cup doesn't stand a chance in getting any coverage, the championships in general are struggling to find space in the media." The Joe McDonagh final will be televised live on Rte 2. Maybe there should have been more games shown but it's hard to fit them in with so many games over a short period of time. Answer, extend the season into late August. This would spread the games out and so allowing for more coverage of the 2nd tier competition. Actually I believe Clubber TV streamed games from the Joe Mc Donagh over the season. Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 449 - 26/05/2023 13:22:23 2481728 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "As posted by supersub above. I think that was correct at time of posting. 9/4 mildly attractive." Just put a treble on with Ladbrokes on all the home teams in the Leinster championship this weekend as they gave me another free bet. Pays 34.75-1. They have the Joe Mac final as 9-4 Carlow, 4-9 Offaly, and the draw 9-1. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15669 - 26/05/2023 15:28:01 2481763 Link
The McDonagh is being left down by Round 5. Antrim B v Kerry. Carlow v Offaly B. I've already mentioned the solution. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8773 - 26/05/2023 15:40:38 2481771 Link
Hi guys, anyone tell me why this game is being rushed so early, I thought it was getting a slot to be before leinster finals from now on... Is it stand alone fixture, is it getting the proper promotion now if it is standalone fixture, will there be 15000 there if we are lucky, it does not look good on the gaas part on the promotion of the competition preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 801 - 26/05/2023 18:42:54 2481812 Link
Replying To preddan: "Hi guys, anyone tell me why this game is being rushed so early, I thought it was getting a slot to be before leinster finals from now on... Is it stand alone fixture, is it getting the proper promotion now if it is standalone fixture, will there be 15000 there if we are lucky, it does not look good on the gaas part on the promotion of the competition" Playing on the weekend of the Leinster final only allowed the McDonagh finalists one week to get ready for the All-Ireland preliminary quarter-finals. This year the McDonagh finalists and 3rd place provincials will all have 3 weeks to get ready. The GAA tried to pair the McDonagh final with the U20 final. Offaly requested that the U20 final be pushed back a week. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8773 - 27/05/2023 07:01:05 2481843 Link