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Allianz Football League Ranking 11 to 14: 11. Louth 12. Cork 13. Kildare 14. Meath Clare or Limerick cannot be written off on making a Munster final. Cavan if they get past Armagh might fancy their chances against Donegal at this time to make an Ulster final. Kildare, Meath or both could be nudged out of the All-Ireland unless they make a Leinster final. If Clare, Cavan and Meath make provincial finals, Cork and Kildare miss out. If Cavan and Meath make provincial finals, Kildare miss out. Kildare are on Dublin's side of the Leinster championship draw. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8773 - 26/03/2023 19:22:14 2466869 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Allianz Football League Ranking 11 to 14: 11. Louth 12. Cork 13. Kildare 14. Meath Clare or Limerick cannot be written off on making a Munster final. Cavan if they get past Armagh might fancy their chances against Donegal at this time to make an Ulster final. Kildare, Meath or both could be nudged out of the All-Ireland unless they make a Leinster final. If Clare, Cavan and Meath make provincial finals, Cork and Kildare miss out. If Cavan and Meath make provincial finals, Kildare miss out. Kildare are on Dublin's side of the Leinster championship draw." Judging by Meath today I don't think they'll be anywhere near a Leinster Final in the near future LilywhiteGael (Kildare) - Posts: 118 - 26/03/2023 20:18:38 2466896 Link
It's a bonkers system in fairness. Don't find out what championship you're playing in until just before it starts. We've had an awful league but it's galling to think that we could be leapfrogged by teams below us based on the luck of a provincial championship draw or a one off game in a province. It's all a bit random. AllWhite (Kildare) - Posts: 171 - 27/03/2023 10:14:42 2466985 Link
Replying To AllWhite: "It's a bonkers system in fairness. Don't find out what championship you're playing in until just before it starts. We've had an awful league but it's galling to think that we could be leapfrogged by teams below us based on the luck of a provincial championship draw or a one off game in a province. It's all a bit random." Colm O'Rourke is a great advocate of the TC. He may have a taste of it this year. No guarantee that they would win it but would guarantee them entry to SAM next year. B&G (Longford) - Posts: 371 - 27/03/2023 11:45:10 2467010 Link
Replying To LilywhiteGael: "Judging by Meath today I don't think they'll be anywhere near a Leinster Final in the near future" We won't be and judging by Kildare neither will they. Meath now easily behind most teams in Leinster. I'd currently rate the teams as follows 1. Dublin 2. Louth 3. Westmeath 4. Kildare 5. Offaly. 6. Meath. 3,4,5 is a toss up and maybe even Kildare are 3rd but to be honest while dubs have regressed the rest of us have regressed further. Even if Meath were in tailteann I couldn't see them beating the likes of cavan, Fermanagh, Limerick, Antrim Down etc. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/03/2023 12:27:53 2467035 Link
Replying To AllWhite: "It's a bonkers system in fairness. Don't find out what championship you're playing in until just before it starts. We've had an awful league but it's galling to think that we could be leapfrogged by teams below us based on the luck of a provincial championship draw or a one off game in a province. It's all a bit random." Dublin are blocking Kildare's path to a Leinster final. Leitrim are blocking Sligo's path to a Connacht final. All provinces have different seeding structures but can only provide one provincial winner. When the structure is reviewed it might be best to only allow 4 provincial champions, 1 Tailteann winner and 11 league qualifiers. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8773 - 27/03/2023 12:30:59 2467038 Link
Replying To AllWhite: "It's a bonkers system in fairness. Don't find out what championship you're playing in until just before it starts. We've had an awful league but it's galling to think that we could be leapfrogged by teams below us based on the luck of a provincial championship draw or a one off game in a province. It's all a bit random." It's not random baby, just the Magical Mystery Tour.. Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1468 - 27/03/2023 13:02:33 2467052 Link
Teams that have a slight chance of reaching provincial finals and knocking a Div 2 team into the TC are as follows: Clare, Limerick, Cavan, Fermanagh, Down and Offaly. If one of the above teams do reach a provincial final then one Meath, Kildare, Cork and Louth will be in bother. Meath and Kildare are in the biggest danger Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 547 - 27/03/2023 13:02:55 2467053 Link
Replying To AllWhite: "It's a bonkers system in fairness. Don't find out what championship you're playing in until just before it starts. We've had an awful league but it's galling to think that we could be leapfrogged by teams below us based on the luck of a provincial championship draw or a one off game in a province. It's all a bit random." Agree 100% Some committee invents some great plan and it is approved with little or no consideration for how it will actually work in practice, Same goes for the truncated season of which this is mostly a bye product. Things which have lasted reasonably well for over a century have lasted reasonably well for over a century for good reasons. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3503 - 27/03/2023 13:39:50 2467072 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "We won't be and judging by Kildare neither will they. Meath now easily behind most teams in Leinster. I'd currently rate the teams as follows 1. Dublin 2. Louth 3. Westmeath 4. Kildare 5. Offaly. 6. Meath. 3,4,5 is a toss up and maybe even Kildare are 3rd but to be honest while dubs have regressed the rest of us have regressed further. Even if Meath were in tailteann I couldn't see them beating the likes of cavan, Fermanagh, Limerick, Antrim Down etc." I'd think even this bad Meath team would make light work of us. The other teams less so. I'd struggle to see Antrim in a Tailteann cup semifinal unless they sort themselves out quickly. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4519 - 27/03/2023 14:57:22 2467099 Link
Replying To Temple56: "Teams that have a slight chance of reaching provincial finals and knocking a Div 2 team into the TC are as follows: Clare, Limerick, Cavan, Fermanagh, Down and Offaly. If one of the above teams do reach a provincial final then one Meath, Kildare, Cork and Louth will be in bother. Meath and Kildare are in the biggest danger" In fairness Clare have more than a slight chance I'd say. Could easily happen they beat Cork in the Muster Quarter Final. Cavan as well will fancy it. Armagh didn't have a great league and Donegal are in disarray. Meath have a viable route to reach a Leinster Final (I say viable not guaranteed as currently I think you'd have to favour Louth to make it from that side). We sadly don't with Dublin on our side. If they maintain this system then division 2 teams are going to have to go hell for leather from the start of the league as realistically you have to finish in the top half of that league and even then it may not be enough. Too much of this is determined by lucky or unlucky draws and not actually on merit. AllWhite (Kildare) - Posts: 171 - 27/03/2023 15:03:59 2467102 Link
Meath belong in the Tailteann cup as I think it is named after a festival that took place somewhere around that region. Recently I read on a forum that the ancient kingdom of Meath actually was around the area where modern county Westmeath is. It makes sense as Meath means middle. PattyONeill (Derry) - Posts: 263 - 27/03/2023 15:48:24 2467115 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "I'd think even this bad Meath team would make light work of us. The other teams less so. I'd struggle to see Antrim in a Tailteann cup semifinal unless they sort themselves out quickly." I don't know. Can you imagine the pressure that would be on Meath against a Antrim team managed by Andy mcentee? A man destroyed by some of our idiot so called fans. It would be a huge vindication of his time in Meath. I don't think people realize just how bad Meath have been last 5 games. Every game we gettin worse. I'll be honest London or Waterford would have beat us yesterday, abysmal is too small a word. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/03/2023 18:05:20 2467156 Link
Replying To PattyONeill: "Meath belong in the Tailteann cup as I think it is named after a festival that took place somewhere around that region. Recently I read on a forum that the ancient kingdom of Meath actually was around the area where modern county Westmeath is. It makes sense as Meath means middle." Good one!. Not very good at history but the Tailteann games could have been played about 6/7km North of Navan on the journey to Derry (as the crow flies)! and if I am correct it would be within the area represented by Wolf Tones GAA Club. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 27/03/2023 18:43:05 2467166 Link
Replying To PattyONeill: "Meath belong in the Tailteann cup as I think it is named after a festival that took place somewhere around that region. Recently I read on a forum that the ancient kingdom of Meath actually was around the area where modern county Westmeath is. It makes sense as Meath means middle." I agree. Meath will struggle in AI series if they qualify. At beat they would be fourth seeds unless in the unlikely event that they make it to Leinster final. The TC will be very competitive Clare & Limerick who have competed in D2 this year along with Meath (if they are participating) Cavan and Fermanagh will be strong contenders. Jack L (None) - Posts: 3149 - 27/03/2023 19:48:21 2467177 Link
Replying To PattyONeill: "Meath belong in the Tailteann cup as I think it is named after a festival that took place somewhere around that region. Recently I read on a forum that the ancient kingdom of Meath actually was around the area where modern county Westmeath is. It makes sense as Meath means middle." Nice historical perspective. Also, I would love to see the the 2 Meath's, East and West amalgamate into one midlands superpower. maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1226 - 28/03/2023 10:05:51 2467232 Link
Replying To maroondiesel: "Nice historical perspective. Also, I would love to see the the 2 Meath's, East and West amalgamate into one midlands superpower." ....and Meath change their name to East Westmeath :) ExiledCuCu (Cavan) - Posts: 256 - 28/03/2023 10:47:10 2467246 Link
Replying To maroondiesel: "Nice historical perspective. Also, I would love to see the the 2 Meath's, East and West amalgamate into one midlands superpower." Weird that I live on the coast of the midlands :) Meath10 (Meath) - Posts: 199 - 28/03/2023 11:41:40 2467262 Link
Prediction for the 4 groups:- 1. Kerry,Galway,Dublin,Tyrone 2 Cork,Sligo,Meath,Armagh 3 Mayo,Roscommon,Monaghan,Donegal 4 Derry,Louth,Kildare Westmeath. Obviously the provincial winners will head the groups.Will there be a draw then for which group you go in to. gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1148 - 28/03/2023 12:02:02 2467269 Link
Replying To gunman: "Prediction for the 4 groups:- 1. Kerry,Galway,Dublin,Tyrone 2 Cork,Sligo,Meath,Armagh 3 Mayo,Roscommon,Monaghan,Donegal 4 Derry,Louth,Kildare Westmeath. Obviously the provincial winners will head the groups.Will there be a draw then for which group you go in to." Provincial winner and runner up are already decided,Munster winner and Connacht runner up and vice versa are grouped together,probably a draw for 3rd and 4th seeds Fkd12 (Louth) - Posts: 196 - 28/03/2023 12:16:08 2467278 Link