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Mayo Request To Play League Final On Saturday

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Replying To PressureKick:  "If only every team knew the fixtures literally months ago and could plan accordingly

At the very least, Mayo knew they were near mathematically certain to be in the final 3 weeks ago. This request went in yesterday

Let their opponents get screwed over with 6 days turnaround so Mayo can have 8"
I'm sure the gaa will consider everything. They are the ones who will make the decision in the end..
Mayo must be doing something really well for such a reaction to making a request on fixtures to the gaa!

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1468 - 24/03/2023 13:40:20    2466261

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If mayo so worried about players welfare mabe they should do the same as some of the countys in leinster and withdraw from the competition!!! ( o Byrne cup). All the county boards voted this split season in so they should just get on with it. If they don't think they in a position to complete the competition then dont enter it.

Thejampot (Leitrim) - Posts: 354 - 24/03/2023 13:58:47    2466273

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Replying To MayoDan:  "Everyone will have the same 6 day turnaround.

It makes perfect sense, for teams out in championship on Easter weekend, to try and give them an extra day.

The league final times aren't confirmed yet, so don't see an issue making the request."
You are missing the point completely . Everyone has a 6 day turnaround yes. But Mayo's turnaround would be from what is effectively a challenge game. The others would be from more intense battles.
Now I will be honest , I am genuinely not sure if there is a massive difference between a 6 or 7 ( or even 8) day turnaround , but it must be seen as having some significance if Mayo have made the request.
The point i was making is that IF there is a benefit of a slightly longer break , then why do Mayo think that they deserve it at the expense of others.
I am real fan of the way Mayo are playing this year but I dont think they they thought this through in terms of the way it is perceived by many observes i.e. the perception of being selfish.
But maybe Mayo don't care if others think they are selfish....and maybe they are right.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 981 - 24/03/2023 14:16:26    2466281

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Replying To PressureKick:  "The term "who do they think they are" springs to mind.

Smart move though. Either they will inexplicably get their way a week out from the game, or they can play the victim card and create a seige mentality. The public always side against the GAA no matter how silly the issue. Win win"
Wouldn't be like Mayo to play the victim card....

streaker (Galway) - Posts: 512 - 24/03/2023 14:49:19    2466291

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Replying To streaker:  "Wouldn't be like Mayo to play the victim card...."
stupid remark

SixtiesKid (Galway) - Posts: 342 - 24/03/2023 15:05:14    2466294

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Replying To SixtiesKid:  "stupid remark"
How so?
Truth hurts.

streaker (Galway) - Posts: 512 - 24/03/2023 15:24:55    2466298

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Replying To Thejampot:  "If mayo so worried about players welfare mabe they should do the same as some of the countys in leinster and withdraw from the competition!!! ( o Byrne cup). All the county boards voted this split season in so they should just get on with it. If they don't think they in a position to complete the competition then dont enter it."
There not going full speed in them games and are rarely sending out the strongest team.

Sssthe (Mayo) - Posts: 59 - 24/03/2023 16:21:41    2466327

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Replying To anotheralias:  "With regard to this I think it is extremely selfish of Mayo to submit this request.
Mayo play this Sunday , next Sunday and the following Sunday. So currently there is a gap of 7 days and 7 days.
So in the interests of player welfare (?) they want to make reduce first gap to 6 days and increase the the second one to 8 days. Go figure.
Well, actually, it does figure ... they play a squad team and deploy the bench this weekend so the 6 day turnaround is not an issue for them.
But it is an issue for Galway/Kerry/Tyrone/Roscommon as they will be at full tilt this Sunday and whoever comes through would only have 6 days."
Yes if they require rest they can if they want rest all starting 15 players from last week against Monaghan this Sunday.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3606 - 24/03/2023 16:23:11    2466328

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Mayo finish top so Mayo should win league. Players welfare goes out the window with the playing schedule. Should be club football now for about whatever many weeks and then go at the championship. All Ireland finals in Setp/Oct.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2289 - 24/03/2023 19:18:44    2466352

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Replying To streaker:  "Wouldn't be like Mayo to play the victim card...."
Yeah stupid remark... what victim card are you referring to?

Is there a single event in any of the All-Ireland finals that Mayo people keep referring back to as an injustice?

No there isn't..

So what actually are you on about? Such a silly comment. Explain it for us all here now that you've said it. I bet you won't.

nicko94 (Mayo) - Posts: 69 - 24/03/2023 19:48:11    2466353

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Don't know that a change to Saturday will make a huge difference to us. Luckily we've a fairly healthy squad and don't need to put out a full strength team against Monaghan. Ideally we can peak around June 24th for preliminary quarter finals. Whatever about the League Final I think we're overestimating our form and underestimating Roscommon's form ahead of the game on Easter Sunday. They played badly but carved up our defence twice, could have scored a third goal and not even playing well in The Hyde. 2019, we did well in the League, Rossies came to Castlebar with a new manager and won Connacht that year. We're favourites on Easter Sunday but we should never ever underestimate Roscommon in the Connacht Championship.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7968 - 24/03/2023 21:38:28    2466370

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Don't know that a change to Saturday will make a huge difference to us. Luckily we've a fairly healthy squad and don't need to put out a full strength team against Monaghan. Ideally we can peak around June 24th for preliminary quarter finals. Whatever about the League Final I think we're overestimating our form and underestimating Roscommon's form ahead of the game on Easter Sunday. They played badly but carved up our defence twice, could have scored a third goal and not even playing well in The Hyde. 2019, we did well in the League, Rossies came to Castlebar with a new manager and won Connacht that year. We're favourites on Easter Sunday but we should never ever underestimate Roscommon in the Connacht Championship."
I think Mayo are being overestimated based on League form but I'd still make ye strong favourites against us on Easter Sunday. Davy Burke needs more time with Roscommon to bring through players from the team that got to the U20 All Ireland final in 2021. Also we have a poor record against Mayo in Castlebar and indeed in The Hyde also. Yes we won in Castlebar against the odds in 2019 but Roscommon's previous championship win there against Mayo was in 1986. We haven't beaten Mayo in a Connacht Final in Castlebar since 1979. That was our great 4 in a row Connacht team who were also League champions that year and could or should have been All Ireland champions the following year. I think Galway will win Connacht this year despite the hype about Mayo and indeed the hype about Roscommon early in the League when we won 3 games in a row.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2393 - 25/03/2023 07:09:09    2466373

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Some amount of bull being talked here mostly by our salty neighbours. Why should Mayo think of other teams? Didn't hear too much sympathy when we were sent to play An All Ireland semi final v Kerry in 2014 in a Munster venue we were very unfamiliar with at the time.

Anyway the fact is the GAA have made a balls of the fixtures. No way should championship start the week after the league finals. I've always said anyway the team that finishes top should be league champions. But it is what is and I'd much rather our current position then to be fighting relegation.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11558 - 25/03/2023 07:32:39    2466377

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Don't know that a change to Saturday will make a huge difference to us. Luckily we've a fairly healthy squad and don't need to put out a full strength team against Monaghan. Ideally we can peak around June 24th for preliminary quarter finals. Whatever about the League Final I think we're overestimating our form and underestimating Roscommon's form ahead of the game on Easter Sunday. They played badly but carved up our defence twice, could have scored a third goal and not even playing well in The Hyde. 2019, we did well in the League, Rossies came to Castlebar with a new manager and won Connacht that year. We're favourites on Easter Sunday but we should never ever underestimate Roscommon in the Connacht Championship."
If they change it to Saturday it could mean Mayo winning a final in Croke Park on April Fools Day.. Be some Craic that!

Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 25/03/2023 08:17:47    2466381

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Don't know that a change to Saturday will make a huge difference to us. Luckily we've a fairly healthy squad and don't need to put out a full strength team against Monaghan. Ideally we can peak around June 24th for preliminary quarter finals. Whatever about the League Final I think we're overestimating our form and underestimating Roscommon's form ahead of the game on Easter Sunday. They played badly but carved up our defence twice, could have scored a third goal and not even playing well in The Hyde. 2019, we did well in the League, Rossies came to Castlebar with a new manager and won Connacht that year. We're favourites on Easter Sunday but we should never ever underestimate Roscommon in the Connacht Championship."
Don't think anyone is underestimating Roscommon. That's why the team want an extra day to prepare for the game.

MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 453 - 25/03/2023 10:27:39    2466390

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Replying To anotheralias:  "You are missing the point completely . Everyone has a 6 day turnaround yes. But Mayo's turnaround would be from what is effectively a challenge game. The others would be from more intense battles.
Now I will be honest , I am genuinely not sure if there is a massive difference between a 6 or 7 ( or even 8) day turnaround , but it must be seen as having some significance if Mayo have made the request.
The point i was making is that IF there is a benefit of a slightly longer break , then why do Mayo think that they deserve it at the expense of others.
I am real fan of the way Mayo are playing this year but I dont think they they thought this through in terms of the way it is perceived by many observes i.e. the perception of being selfish.
But maybe Mayo don't care if others think they are selfish....and maybe they are right."
For any "normal" thinking county, you're right, tomorrow's game ought to be a challenge match. Basically they should be fielding their fringe players and giving the majority of their first team a rest weekend. But this is Mayo.....for some inexplicable reason they want to go all out to win a match that has no consequences for them just because they want to turn McHale Park into a fortress. Now making it into a fortress for championship matches makes sense but doing so for what for them is an inconsequential league game is pure lunacy.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 2015 - 25/03/2023 11:29:50    2466405

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Replying To legendzxix:  "With the Tailteann semi-finals in Croke Park, do counties still want league finals in Croke Park? Should New York be in Connacht with the smaller timescale available? If the provincial round 1, quarter-finals and semi-finals were on consecutive weekends, the GAA could allow a rest weekend between the league finals and start of provincial championships."
New York are the mother of all cash cows and a nice junket so the Connacht Council and county boards will always have them in the Connacht championship. All is good as long as they dont win a championship game which to everyone's relief they haven't done so yet.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 2015 - 25/03/2023 11:37:33    2466411

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Replying To nicko94:  "Yeah stupid remark... what victim card are you referring to?

Is there a single event in any of the All-Ireland finals that Mayo people keep referring back to as an injustice?

No there isn't..

So what actually are you on about? Such a silly comment. Explain it for us all here now that you've said it. I bet you won't."
While that comment was harsh and I don't agree with it, are you personally joking or are you a teenager?

There are countless incidents in countless games that Mayo fans constantly refer back to. Take 1996 as your starting point

Even 2 posts below your comment you've a fan still complaining about a game being fixed in Limerick 9 years ago

PressureKick (UK) - Posts: 277 - 25/03/2023 12:08:24    2466419

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Replying To MayoDan:  "Don't think anyone is underestimating Roscommon. That's why the team want an extra day to prepare for the game."
No need for changing any game… Everyone knew the fixture list long before the league started including Mayo…. Just a self entitled rant by McStay who just loves yapping

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3811 - 25/03/2023 12:14:53    2466421

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Some amount of bull being talked here mostly by our salty neighbours. Why should Mayo think of other teams? Didn't hear too much sympathy when we were sent to play An All Ireland semi final v Kerry in 2014 in a Munster venue we were very unfamiliar with at the time.

Anyway the fact is the GAA have made a balls of the fixtures. No way should championship start the week after the league finals. I've always said anyway the team that finishes top should be league champions. But it is what is and I'd much rather our current position then to be fighting relegation."
The Connacht fixtures were made by Connacht council. Why don't you take that up with the CC chairman, who incidentally is a Mayo man

The league final has been set in stone for months (and indeed years) at this point. It's the second game on the Sunday along with the D2 final. It's the absolute height of arrogance to try to change that 8 days out from the game, and inconvenience multiple other teams in the process. Some team gets 6 days rest so Mayo can get 8. Incredible

PressureKick (UK) - Posts: 277 - 25/03/2023 12:15:49    2466422

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