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Replying To Greenfield:  "The Examiner had an item last week that said the 5 games in the Munster football championship this year drew a COMBINED attendance of 28,178.

Average of 5,635."
Nothing too surprising about that.

Football so badly needs a total revolution of its format...

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3674 - 15/05/2023 15:33:45    2478724

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It's not just football that crowds are not going 2 Wexford v Dublin hurling 8-10 thousand not even that Galway v Wexford nit 2 many at Galway v Westmeath or even Galway v Kilkenny matches in muster next weekend be serious crowds I think but Galway v Antrim I'd say maybe 1000 if lucky 2 many one side games in both codes, I'd say the secondary competition in both codes draw very Small crowds
2 many matches 2 close together in 10 weeks time be nothing on club championship won't start until aug in majority of counties GAA at top level have made a right mess of it if they trying kill football and hurling thet doing good job of it in another 2 weeks at least 4 hurling counties no match for 8 months and then the league glorified challenge games , time 2 go back drawing board with smart intelligent people making the decision starting championship in first week April madness ,

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 953 - 15/05/2023 15:48:59    2478727

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What was the attendance for the U20 All-Ireland final?

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3487 - 15/05/2023 16:51:16    2478760

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Nothing too surprising about that.

Football so badly needs a total revolution of its format..."
Take the Cork Kerry clash out of the Munster football championship and attendances will always be low. Traditionally out 2 to 5k for games apart from a Cork Kerry clash. The Cork v Clare Munster final of 2012 drew just over 9k.

Clare, Limerick and to a lesser extent Tipp have come with competitive teams over the past 20 years that brought a bit of a crowd for a few years. Clare's team in the 90's too but generally this is short lived.

In the modern era of possession football genuine All Ireland contenders are going to annihilate division 2 and below teams. Supporters know the out come is in little doubt. There was more possibility of an upset in the catch and kick era.

I don't think it is that fans don't like Gaelic Football, more that they seek out entertainment.

dahayeser (Cork) - Posts: 353 - 15/05/2023 17:35:57    2478785

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Nothing too surprising about that.

Football so badly needs a total revolution of its format..."
Need to look at the league format. It's a brilliant competition where teams at the same level play each other week after week.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11407 - 15/05/2023 18:02:07    2478791

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "What was the attendance for the U20 All-Ireland final?"
10,500 was mentioned during the commentary

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1950 - 15/05/2023 18:48:57    2478805

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North of 40k in Croker fir the Leinster final yesterday.

Brilliant support by Louth, fair play.

Dubs outnumbered for sure.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4465 - 15/05/2023 23:16:07    2478833

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Replying To Greenfield:  "The Examiner had an item last week that said the 5 games in the Munster football championship this year drew a COMBINED attendance of 28,178.

Average of 5,635."
In Clare, Tipperary,Limerick,Waterford and Cork where both sports are played Hurling is the sport that attracts punters , it was always this way but has become far more pronounced as Gaelic football has become so safety first driven.
Limerick V Clare in Munster football semi Final 3000 odd
Limerick v Clare Round Robin Hurling 30,000 - ten times the attendance
Says it all.

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 717 - 16/05/2023 08:02:19    2478839

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Replying To Kickitout:  "It's not just football that crowds are not going 2 Wexford v Dublin hurling 8-10 thousand not even that Galway v Wexford nit 2 many at Galway v Westmeath or even Galway v Kilkenny matches in muster next weekend be serious crowds I think but Galway v Antrim I'd say maybe 1000 if lucky 2 many one side games in both codes, I'd say the secondary competition in both codes draw very Small crowds
2 many matches 2 close together in 10 weeks time be nothing on club championship won't start until aug in majority of counties GAA at top level have made a right mess of it if they trying kill football and hurling thet doing good job of it in another 2 weeks at least 4 hurling counties no match for 8 months and then the league glorified challenge games , time 2 go back drawing board with smart intelligent people making the decision starting championship in first week April madness ,"
Leinster hurling is a bit diluted with the 2 weaker teams involved. Galway beat Wexford in Round 1. That pretty much guarenteed them top 3 and qualification. Kilkenny beat Galway in Round 2, pretty much qualifying them. Only doubt is whether Dublin or Wexford get the 3rd spot. Who ever does come 3rd isn't likely to go much further anyway so it's not really capturing the interest of either county. Hence making for a drab championship.

Leinster really needs a fifth competitive team. Antrim showing well as Laois did a few years ago. If they could hang in there and push on it would be huge for the Leinster championship. Those of us old enough will remember the great crowds and colour they brought to games in the late 80's early 90's.

dahayeser (Cork) - Posts: 353 - 16/05/2023 09:35:39    2478852

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Replying To dahayeser:  "Leinster hurling is a bit diluted with the 2 weaker teams involved. Galway beat Wexford in Round 1. That pretty much guarenteed them top 3 and qualification. Kilkenny beat Galway in Round 2, pretty much qualifying them. Only doubt is whether Dublin or Wexford get the 3rd spot. Who ever does come 3rd isn't likely to go much further anyway so it's not really capturing the interest of either county. Hence making for a drab championship.

Leinster really needs a fifth competitive team. Antrim showing well as Laois did a few years ago. If they could hang in there and push on it would be huge for the Leinster championship. Those of us old enough will remember the great crowds and colour they brought to games in the late 80's early 90's."
Small correction Dahayeser. Kilkenny did not beat Galway in their Leinster round robin game. It was a draw 0-28 to 1-25.

Theres a lot still to play for in Leinster in the remaining matches. Looking like Galway Kilkenny and Dublin to qualify but Dublin can reach the Leinster final if they beat either Galway or Kilkenny while Wexford have an outside chance of still qualifying if they can beat Kilkenny and other results go their way

Will any of that mean a bigger attendance at those important remaining matches? No I dont think so.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1953 - 16/05/2023 10:40:37    2478882

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Replying To dahayeser:  "Leinster hurling is a bit diluted with the 2 weaker teams involved. Galway beat Wexford in Round 1. That pretty much guarenteed them top 3 and qualification. Kilkenny beat Galway in Round 2, pretty much qualifying them. Only doubt is whether Dublin or Wexford get the 3rd spot. Who ever does come 3rd isn't likely to go much further anyway so it's not really capturing the interest of either county. Hence making for a drab championship.

Leinster really needs a fifth competitive team. Antrim showing well as Laois did a few years ago. If they could hang in there and push on it would be huge for the Leinster championship. Those of us old enough will remember the great crowds and colour they brought to games in the late 80's early 90's."
Munster could use a 5th competitive team too.
The next 5th competitive team in Leinster will be Offaly. Sooner the better. But, a relegation could scupper that and what good is that to anybody?

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1259 - 16/05/2023 10:47:26    2478887

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Replying To dahayeser:  "Leinster hurling is a bit diluted with the 2 weaker teams involved. Galway beat Wexford in Round 1. That pretty much guarenteed them top 3 and qualification. Kilkenny beat Galway in Round 2, pretty much qualifying them. Only doubt is whether Dublin or Wexford get the 3rd spot. Who ever does come 3rd isn't likely to go much further anyway so it's not really capturing the interest of either county. Hence making for a drab championship.

Leinster really needs a fifth competitive team. Antrim showing well as Laois did a few years ago. If they could hang in there and push on it would be huge for the Leinster championship. Those of us old enough will remember the great crowds and colour they brought to games in the late 80's early 90's."
One thing they might do in Leinster is to change the running order. Been the same every year.

Galway and Cats clearly ahead of rest but the schedule of games means that they have both qualified early. If that was last match it would make it a bit more interesting.

Not pleading special case for ourselves by the way. If Dublin do not get something against Kilkenny and Galway, or a the very least do not put it up to them, then i would not in the least begrudge Wesxford if they take something from their last game and leapfrog us again.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3118 - 16/05/2023 10:55:23    2478893

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "What was the attendance for the U20 All-Ireland final?"
4,500 at U20 Munster final last night, similar number at all ireland u20 football finale.

dingle82 (Down) - Posts: 231 - 16/05/2023 14:15:20    2478981

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They should play Leinster final in Tuallmore and it be packed with good atmosphere croke park waste time unless big crowds most players want play where there good atmosphere not in stadium at best a third full

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 953 - 16/05/2023 16:43:33    2479035

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Replying To dingle82:  "4,500 at U20 Munster final last night, similar number at all ireland u20 football finale."
There was more than that at the All Ireland Football. They never announced an attendance but based on capacity of the venue I would estimate in the region of 10-11k in Cavan.

Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 428 - 16/05/2023 17:21:19    2479051

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Replying To Sligoman1234:  "There was more than that at the All Ireland Football. They never announced an attendance but based on capacity of the venue I would estimate in the region of 10-11k in Cavan."
TG4 commentary mentioned 10,500.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1950 - 16/05/2023 17:51:53    2479064

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "One thing they might do in Leinster is to change the running order. Been the same every year.

Galway and Cats clearly ahead of rest but the schedule of games means that they have both qualified early. If that was last match it would make it a bit more interesting.

Not pleading special case for ourselves by the way. If Dublin do not get something against Kilkenny and Galway, or a the very least do not put it up to them, then i would not in the least begrudge Wesxford if they take something from their last game and leapfrog us again."
The running order of the Leinster Hurling Championship has not been the same order every year. A draw is made each year for the fixtures.
Since the round-robin format started in 2018, Galway have played Kilkenny in Round 3, R4, R3 and R1. There was no round-robin format in 2020 due to Covid.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2654 - 16/05/2023 19:08:33    2479091

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Replying To Sligoman1234:  "There was more than that at the All Ireland Football. They never announced an attendance but based on capacity of the venue I would estimate in the region of 10-11k in Cavan."
Ya seen some highlights more in the region of 10 / 11k alright.. Never at that stadium but it looked a good crowd.
I see Carlow is a full house for Leinster final tonight what is the capacity?

dingle82 (Down) - Posts: 231 - 17/05/2023 09:28:15    2479151

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Small correction Dahayeser. Kilkenny did not beat Galway in their Leinster round robin game. It was a draw 0-28 to 1-25.

Theres a lot still to play for in Leinster in the remaining matches. Looking like Galway Kilkenny and Dublin to qualify but Dublin can reach the Leinster final if they beat either Galway or Kilkenny while Wexford have an outside chance of still qualifying if they can beat Kilkenny and other results go their way

Will any of that mean a bigger attendance at those important remaining matches? No I dont think so."
Sorry, yes of course. I suppose the big thing is Galway and Kilkenny looked nailed on for the Leinster final. The years when Dublin and Wexford were up there were brilliant and the Leinster championship was outstanding. From an outsider's point of view this year, the Leinster final pairing looks decided and the 3rd place team look well off the pace resulting the small crowds.

dahayeser (Cork) - Posts: 353 - 17/05/2023 09:42:08    2479155

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Replying To dahayeser:  "Leinster hurling is a bit diluted with the 2 weaker teams involved. Galway beat Wexford in Round 1. That pretty much guarenteed them top 3 and qualification. Kilkenny beat Galway in Round 2, pretty much qualifying them. Only doubt is whether Dublin or Wexford get the 3rd spot. Who ever does come 3rd isn't likely to go much further anyway so it's not really capturing the interest of either county. Hence making for a drab championship.

Leinster really needs a fifth competitive team. Antrim showing well as Laois did a few years ago. If they could hang in there and push on it would be huge for the Leinster championship. Those of us old enough will remember the great crowds and colour they brought to games in the late 80's early 90's."
We were very unlucky not to make the AISF last year. And we had beaten the opponents we would have faced in that semi final already that year in a knockout game.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 17/05/2023 09:49:40    2479156

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