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Lopsided draws at Senior and Intermediate for this year's hurling and football. Although I suppose that's only basing it on last year really. This year could be different entirely!!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11734 - 01/02/2023 07:45:34    2455700

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Anyone know when the Leagues are going to kick off? And what the structure is going to be?

rossytilidie (Wexford) - Posts: 300 - 08/02/2023 10:48:32    2457200

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Replying To rossytilidie:  "Anyone know when the Leagues are going to kick off? And what the structure is going to be?"
Pencilled in for the first weekend of March, with ACFL starting first. From what I gather, each grade is broken into two groups of six, drawn up regionally. Promotion from Divisions 2 to 6. Two down, two up.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1409 - 08/02/2023 11:22:32    2457213

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Replying To rossytilidie:  "Anyone know when the Leagues are going to kick off? And what the structure is going to be?"
Last year it was the weekend prior to paddys day so I'd imagine something similiar. Anyone hear of any new management teams this year?

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1676 - 08/02/2023 11:27:03    2457219

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hear leighton glynn is training glynn this year, garry laffan over their hurlers , cant get a football manager, lads going traviling to i hear

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2840 - 16/02/2023 19:22:26    2458585

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Replying To beano:  "Pencilled in for the first weekend of March, with ACFL starting first. From what I gather, each grade is broken into two groups of six, drawn up regionally. Promotion from Divisions 2 to 6. Two down, two up."
Are the divisions based on championship placings? And why no relegation from division one Beano do you know?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11734 - 17/02/2023 08:35:26    2458601

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I was just looking at the league format for this year and once more the footballers of the county would be as well to just take up another sport (which a few have)

The last league game in April for footballers that dont make a play off game is the 15th of April. The next football game within the county is 4 and half months away give or take!!! 19 weeks!!

The hurlers on the other hand will be playing at least to the end of April beginning of May and looking at provisional dates will likely be back hurling Club again in 2 months give or take a week.

The county championship structure is going to be the complete and utter death knell for wexford football, maybe thats the idea!!

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1328 - 17/02/2023 12:38:16    2458657

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Replying To tearintom:  "I was just looking at the league format for this year and once more the footballers of the county would be as well to just take up another sport (which a few have)

The last league game in April for footballers that dont make a play off game is the 15th of April. The next football game within the county is 4 and half months away give or take!!! 19 weeks!!

The hurlers on the other hand will be playing at least to the end of April beginning of May and looking at provisional dates will likely be back hurling Club again in 2 months give or take a week.

The county championship structure is going to be the complete and utter death knell for wexford football, maybe thats the idea!!"
Yes but on the flip side of that Wexford football clubs actually performed well in Leinster club completions because the football championship was run closer to the provincial matches in October.

The hurling champ winning teams like Oulart, Ferns etc performed really poorly in Leinster because of the long lay off after champ and Oulart even played football to keep their fitness levels up I presume.

But the majority clubs don't care about Leinster and players just want to to play regular games during the good summer months and in that regard football is in a very bad place in Wexford compared to hurling.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 718 - 17/02/2023 12:53:47    2458661

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Replying To tearintom:  "I was just looking at the league format for this year and once more the footballers of the county would be as well to just take up another sport (which a few have)

The last league game in April for footballers that dont make a play off game is the 15th of April. The next football game within the county is 4 and half months away give or take!!! 19 weeks!!

The hurlers on the other hand will be playing at least to the end of April beginning of May and looking at provisional dates will likely be back hurling Club again in 2 months give or take a week.

The county championship structure is going to be the complete and utter death knell for wexford football, maybe thats the idea!!"
Why are the Leagues over so early?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11734 - 17/02/2023 12:58:57    2458666

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Replying To tearintom:  "I was just looking at the league format for this year and once more the footballers of the county would be as well to just take up another sport (which a few have)

The last league game in April for footballers that dont make a play off game is the 15th of April. The next football game within the county is 4 and half months away give or take!!! 19 weeks!!

The hurlers on the other hand will be playing at least to the end of April beginning of May and looking at provisional dates will likely be back hurling Club again in 2 months give or take a week.

The county championship structure is going to be the complete and utter death knell for wexford football, maybe thats the idea!!"
I know our own club didnt enter a football team in the league for this exact reason, what was the point. They really need to put it back to alternative weekends to give both codes a equal footing. I understand there was a few outspoken people at last nights county board meeting on the issue of teams not entering football teams in the league, one club in particular who didnt enter any league competition I suspect getting particular attention.

alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 403 - 17/02/2023 13:36:48    2458675

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Replying To tearintom:  "I was just looking at the league format for this year and once more the footballers of the county would be as well to just take up another sport (which a few have)

The last league game in April for footballers that dont make a play off game is the 15th of April. The next football game within the county is 4 and half months away give or take!!! 19 weeks!!

The hurlers on the other hand will be playing at least to the end of April beginning of May and looking at provisional dates will likely be back hurling Club again in 2 months give or take a week.

The county championship structure is going to be the complete and utter death knell for wexford football, maybe thats the idea!!"
The only positive is that personal life activities like holidays or weddings aren't really affected during the prime months.

I have mellowed on the issue as I know there'll be nothing done about it in the long run.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1409 - 17/02/2023 13:37:03    2458676

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Replying To Viking66:  "Why are the Leagues over so early?"
The powers that be probably don't know that themselves considering they have somehow contrived to make the format worse even when introducing promotion/relegation. Teams shadow-boxing in the league because they are facing off again in the championship does not make for a good product.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1409 - 17/02/2023 13:47:23    2458677

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Replying To tearintom:  "I was just looking at the league format for this year and once more the footballers of the county would be as well to just take up another sport (which a few have)

The last league game in April for footballers that dont make a play off game is the 15th of April. The next football game within the county is 4 and half months away give or take!!! 19 weeks!!

The hurlers on the other hand will be playing at least to the end of April beginning of May and looking at provisional dates will likely be back hurling Club again in 2 months give or take a week.

The county championship structure is going to be the complete and utter death knell for wexford football, maybe thats the idea!!"
On my original point there is actually 1 more weekend of football for most teams so they wouldnt all be finished on the 15th of April. But some will noticeably in senior!!

There are 36 clubs opting to take part in this years league from what i can see, that actually includes Bunclody who are actually playing their 2nd team but not their first.

Numerous Clubs not even putting in a football team at all, and when you look at the structure of things who can blame them?

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1328 - 17/02/2023 14:53:55    2458691

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Replying To beano:  "The powers that be probably don't know that themselves considering they have somehow contrived to make the format worse even when introducing promotion/relegation. Teams shadow-boxing in the league because they are facing off again in the championship does not make for a good product."
Yep!

The league was actually decent last year, all that was required to make it pretty much spot on was to have promotion and relegation. Decent games against teams you wouldnt face in the group stage of the championsip.

But now our club find ourselves playing teams we will be playing for the most part.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1328 - 17/02/2023 14:59:24    2458692

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Replying To tearintom:  "Yep!

The league was actually decent last year, all that was required to make it pretty much spot on was to have promotion and relegation. Decent games against teams you wouldnt face in the group stage of the championsip.

But now our club find ourselves playing teams we will be playing for the most part."
In fairness that will change over the next year or two with teams going up and down. Just this year they had to grade the leagues off the championship but yes they could have divided two groups along who you arent playing in the championship for this year.

alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 403 - 17/02/2023 15:24:48    2458699

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Replying To alwaysasub:  "In fairness that will change over the next year or two with teams going up and down. Just this year they had to grade the leagues off the championship but yes they could have divided two groups along who you arent playing in the championship for this year."
Is there no relegation from Div 1? And if not why not?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11734 - 17/02/2023 18:27:39    2458734

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Replying To beano:  "The powers that be probably don't know that themselves considering they have somehow contrived to make the format worse even when introducing promotion/relegation. Teams shadow-boxing in the league because they are facing off again in the championship does not make for a good product."
Think it's important to point out that the "powers that be" who introduced promotion & relegation are the club delegates themselves, who voted for it at the Co. Board meeting last November that decided League & Championship structures for this year.

It wasn't a decision of CCCC or the top table of the County Board.

Similarly with the whole split season thing for the championships. If I remember correctly, the vote was 31 to 29 in favour of sticking with hurling first. The top table was more or less split down the middle itself (something like 8 votes to 7).

Also, in fairness to the CCCC, they're trying to minimise the "shadow boxing" thing by fixing the Leagues so that two teams play each other early in the League if they're also due to meet in the championship later in the year - the idea being to make the gap as long as possible between the two matches. There'll actually be longer gaps than at inter-county level, where (for example), Wexford played Galway in the League in February and will play them again in Championship during April.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2229 - 17/02/2023 20:58:15    2458749

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