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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "I see O'Connor is back whinging about the refs robbing the Princes of the Pigskin again. If Farrell or Dooher or McStay were att hat game, constantly, they'd be hauled over the coals."
O'Connor does seem to have a chip on his shoulder. Seems that he wants to influence refs and pressurize them.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 07/03/2023 13:45:20    2462536

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Replying To border Gael:  "Fridge I am so delighted to agree with you. What a turnaround today. Great to see it. Mattie Donnelly led the comeback very ably assisted by D Cannavan and a great all around team performance."
great performance but i would air on the side of caution with Tyrone. Very unpredictable. Conceding a massive about of goals which will catch up to them eventually. And the goals they are conceding are poor - so easy for opponents to walk though them.

Monaghan will be a real relegation battle game, a lot on the line. Monaghan look alot better at home so will be a tight affair.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 07/03/2023 13:51:28    2462540

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "great performance but i would air on the side of caution with Tyrone. Very unpredictable. Conceding a massive about of goals which will catch up to them eventually. And the goals they are conceding are poor - so easy for opponents to walk though them.

Monaghan will be a real relegation battle game, a lot on the line. Monaghan look alot better at home so will be a tight affair."
It could come down to last match v Armagh with winners staying up. You'd need two refs on the field for that one. Even if Kerry had have won on Sunday it was the way the team played as a team that was most pleasing. Nothing stupid, stay out of trouble and walk away when there are fouls against Tyrone and they'll beat most teams. Twice on Sunday the ball was moved into a more scoreable position for backchat.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2012 - 07/03/2023 16:43:44    2462592

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "O'Connor does seem to have a chip on his shoulder. Seems that he wants to influence refs and pressurize them."
He doesn't like losing, especially to Tyrone.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1741 - 07/03/2023 17:27:24    2462608

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "O'Connor does seem to have a chip on his shoulder. Seems that he wants to influence refs and pressurize them."
It's all those nordies and Dubs stopping lads lofting 20 feet into the air and kicking points from 80 yards with their backs to the goals.


Everything else is not in God's plan

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2556 - 07/03/2023 20:42:58    2462645

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Mayo, Roscommon, Derry, Louth and Cavan are the standout performers from the league so far. Cavan will be well fired up for the Ulster championship.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7842 - 08/03/2023 17:36:57    2462857

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "The play offs between the different divisions in 70s and 80s were great crack. First time I ever saw Dublin playing Cavan was in Breffni around 1978 or 79. Huge crowd. Cavan were in 3 at time i think? also remembers seeing other exotic teams like Antrim around that time, and never since!"
Yes, I remember those days too. But despite the novelty pairings, was the system fair - a smell of the Proposal B/Team 6 issue about it?

omahant (USA) - Posts: 2584 - 08/03/2023 18:53:38    2462871

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "I don't agree… I think the current system with 4 league finals is spot on… Good even games in each division generally and league finals and relegation battles make it more interesting…. Laois been crowned National league winners in the 80's despite operating out of Division 3 was farcical…. Leave well enough alone… the league was tampered with far too often…"
I like the hierarchical divisions too - but maybe I'd prefer 12/12/8 with positions deciding which AIC Tier they'd enter. Say, Div 1 top 6 to AIC Tier 1 KO; Div 2 top 6 & Div 1 bottom 6 to AIC Tier 2 KO; and Div 3 top 4 & Div 2 bottom 6 to AIC Tier 3 KO.
Prov Championships could be retained, with ties doubling as league fixtures, when from same division, and the 4 Champs get a Tier 1 berth, if not already via the league.

omahant (USA) - Posts: 2584 - 08/03/2023 19:10:04    2462874

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "great performance but i would air on the side of caution with Tyrone. Very unpredictable. Conceding a massive about of goals which will catch up to them eventually. And the goals they are conceding are poor - so easy for opponents to walk though them.

Monaghan will be a real relegation battle game, a lot on the line. Monaghan look alot better at home so will be a tight affair."
It could come down to last match v Armagh with winners staying up. You'd need two refs on the field for that one. Even if Kerry had have won on Sunday it was the way the team played as a team that was most pleasing. Nothing stupid, stay out of trouble and walk away when there are fouls against Tyrone and they'll beat most teams. Twice on Sunday the ball was moved into a more scoreable position for backchat.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2012 - 09/03/2023 08:39:54    2462901

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Replying To Saynothing:  "It could come down to last match v Armagh with winners staying up. You'd need two refs on the field for that one. Even if Kerry had have won on Sunday it was the way the team played as a team that was most pleasing. Nothing stupid, stay out of trouble and walk away when there are fouls against Tyrone and they'll beat most teams. Twice on Sunday the ball was moved into a more scoreable position for backchat."
I'd still fancy them this year if they can get all the main men on the field and on form. Main memory of last year was how puzzled Dooher and Logan looked on sideline when it was all falling apart. They genuinely seemed not to know what was going wrong.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2556 - 09/03/2023 10:49:37    2462920

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Replying To thelongridge:  "He doesn't like losing, especially to Tyrone."
surely he's used to be be now!!!!!!

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 09/03/2023 12:53:16    2462958

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "surely he's used to be be now!!!!!!"
Hard for some people to accept that some counties are actually capable of beating Kerry.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1741 - 10/03/2023 10:16:43    2463119

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Great stuff Galway, safe trip home.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2012 - 18/03/2023 18:40:45    2464526

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Promoted more or less, meh!

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 18/03/2023 18:56:43    2464529

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Promoted more or less, meh!"
Not there yet up the wee

thestrapper49 (Louth) - Posts: 314 - 18/03/2023 19:25:08    2464540

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Hard fought win today for Galway, hopefully We can beat Kerry in our last game and that will guarantee us a place in the League Final!!!!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2193 - 18/03/2023 19:26:58    2464541

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Meath deserved to be relegated but goals in two games saved us thankfully. But that only papers over the cracks. We are playing a brand of football that went out years ago, and even at that we not doing it very well.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 18/03/2023 20:17:24    2464561

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Meath deserved to be relegated but goals in two games saved us thankfully. But that only papers over the cracks. We are playing a brand of football that went out years ago, and even at that we not doing it very well."
Disappointing match, Was hoping for a bit of an old style meeting but it was like a challenge game. Played in almost total silence for last 20 minutes.

Hard to know where Meath are at, and didn't tell us any more about Dublin either.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2556 - 18/03/2023 21:11:00    2464596

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Disappointing match, Was hoping for a bit of an old style meeting but it was like a challenge game. Played in almost total silence for last 20 minutes.

Hard to know where Meath are at, and didn't tell us any more about Dublin either."
Meath are in decline, hindsight is 20/20 as they say and mcentee probably had us punching above our weight. Looking forward Meath are in a terrible state. We have the all ire minors coming through in a couple years but if the current management doesn't get with modern day football we won't do anything

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 18/03/2023 21:19:11    2464603

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Meath are in decline, hindsight is 20/20 as they say and mcentee probably had us punching above our weight. Looking forward Meath are in a terrible state. We have the all ire minors coming through in a couple years but if the current management doesn't get with modern day football we won't do anything"
I couldn't disagree with any of that, but I'd like to get your thoughts on why this is the case? Meath and Kildare are punching so far below their weight, it's almost embarrassing. I'm not trying to stick the boot in, I'd like to see both of them competitive again.
We heard for years that it was because Dublin were so far ahead, but I never bought that as they even struggled to make any impression in the league, while much smaller counties like Monaghan and Roscommon have been much more competitive.
Now Dublin are firmly back in the pack for a couple of years, yet Meath and Kildare actually seem to be getting worse.
Looking at both counties, they seem to have all the ingredients. Football pedigree (especially Meath), plenty resources and a large pick, relative to a lot of other counties.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2040 - 19/03/2023 09:53:53    2464641

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