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Replying To dickie10: "I agree League Finals should be scrapped playing in a cavernous croke park with 20k people. top team declared winners or else go back to league quater finals from all four divisions like the mid 90s. id be in favoour of top team winning the league, but promotion playoffs in div 2,3,4. neutral provincial grounds, it would make for a super day, second play third for promotion, it would draw more than league finals. imagine Dublin v Louth in Navan for promotion. or Westmeath v Fermanagh in Breffni Park in a play off." The play offs between the different divisions in 70s and 80s were great crack. First time I ever saw Dublin playing Cavan was in Breffni around 1978 or 79. Huge crowd. Cavan were in 3 at time i think? also remembers seeing other exotic teams like Antrim around that time, and never since! BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2550 - 28/02/2023 13:14:10 2460943 Link
The first 4 rounds of the league can be on consecutive weekends. After a weekend off, the remaining 3 rounds and the finals can be played out. It will give all counties a weekend off before the provincial championships begin. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7840 - 01/03/2023 11:19:08 2461138 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "The play offs between the different divisions in 70s and 80s were great crack. First time I ever saw Dublin playing Cavan was in Breffni around 1978 or 79. Huge crowd. Cavan were in 3 at time i think? also remembers seeing other exotic teams like Antrim around that time, and never since!" I don't agree… I think the current system with 4 league finals is spot on… Good even games in each division generally and league finals and relegation battles make it more interesting…. Laois been crowned National league winners in the 80's despite operating out of Division 3 was farcical…. Leave well enough alone… the league was tampered with far too often… ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1921 - 01/03/2023 11:35:57 2461147 Link
Replying To PattyONeill: "I wonder what Mark Sidebottom gets paid for that 10 minutes of presenting work on BBC iplayer" That matters to you? points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 239 - 01/03/2023 11:37:52 2461149 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "The play offs between the different divisions in 70s and 80s were great crack. First time I ever saw Dublin playing Cavan was in Breffni around 1978 or 79. Huge crowd. Cavan were in 3 at time i think? also remembers seeing other exotic teams like Antrim around that time, and never since!" I don't agree… I think the current system with 4 league finals is spot on… Good even games in each division generally and league finals and relegation battles make it more interesting…. Laois been crowned National league winners in the 80's despite operating out of Division 3 was farcical…. Leave well enough alone… the league was tampered with far too often… ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1921 - 01/03/2023 11:40:36 2461152 Link
Replying To CiarraiMick: "I agree wth Legendzxix.This is the closest battle ive seen in division 1 for years.Often at this stage one team would be kind of written off and any team on 6 points would be considered safe.Not this year.Im really enjoying the battle.Every week a new scenario emerges.At the start the Rossies and Monaghan were favourites for the drop then then Rossies have a great run and Tyrone being written off.Then Donegal written off with Monaghan.Now its Tyrone again.If Tyrone beat Kerry it really throws the cat amongst the pigeons again.Tyrone have nt been playing as bad as the scoreline v Mayo suggests and Donegal looked a bit better last week.This weekend though should see the first team safe after the Mayo Rossies clash.A win will see one of them safe and a draw will see the two of them safe.Its mouthwatering stuff.The league is a really brilliant competition." Tyrone not playing that bad? Compared to what? Defence is very poor, and continuing saga of player mismanagement has lost them e.g. R Brennan recently, he's badly needed in that "defence". Also the Dromore lad gone last week or so, and far worse than him being started. What is it now, is it 11 payers gone since the AI win? Entire team looks demoralised and playing at ¾ intensity. Tyrone will be lucky to make it past first round in Ulster c'ship. Dooher was a first-rate player, a legend on the pitch. But there's a touch of the Roy Keane about him, very driven himself; not naturally suited to player management in 2023. New management desperately needed; team being wasted. I more or less expect Tyrone to lose nowadays. Unless Kerry send the B team, there's no way that Tyrone will beat them. points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 239 - 01/03/2023 11:49:08 2461153 Link
Replying To points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet: "Tyrone not playing that bad? Compared to what? Defence is very poor, and continuing saga of player mismanagement has lost them e.g. R Brennan recently, he's badly needed in that "defence". Also the Dromore lad gone last week or so, and far worse than him being started. What is it now, is it 11 payers gone since the AI win? Entire team looks demoralised and playing at ¾ intensity. Tyrone will be lucky to make it past first round in Ulster c'ship. Dooher was a first-rate player, a legend on the pitch. But there's a touch of the Roy Keane about him, very driven himself; not naturally suited to player management in 2023. New management desperately needed; team being wasted. I more or less expect Tyrone to lose nowadays. Unless Kerry send the B team, there's no way that Tyrone will beat them." Don't know what is going on with Sludden. Seems to be the scapegoat all the time. Peter Harte can do no wrong and Mc Shane is an embarrassment. Still I wouldn't give up, there are a few teams just as bad. Everyone blowing Armagh up yet they only are a point in front. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2012 - 01/03/2023 15:39:34 2461239 Link
April 1st/2nd: Allianz FL Division 1, 2, 3 and 4 finals April 8th/9th: Connacht London v Sligo New York v Leitrim Roscommon v Mayo Leinster Longford v Offaly Wicklow v Carlow Wexford v Laois Munster Tipperary v Waterford Cork v Clare Ulster Armagh v Antrim One week is a short turn around for any of the above who make division finals. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7840 - 01/03/2023 16:25:24 2461250 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "April 1st/2nd: Allianz FL Division 1, 2, 3 and 4 finals April 8th/9th: Connacht London v Sligo New York v Leitrim Roscommon v Mayo Leinster Longford v Offaly Wicklow v Carlow Wexford v Laois Munster Tipperary v Waterford Cork v Clare Ulster Armagh v Antrim One week is a short turn around for any of the above who make division finals." Whatever about the preliminary rounds of Ulster and Leinster starting early, it's a joke that Connacht and Munster start so early when they only have a handful of teams tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1105 - 04/03/2023 12:22:34 2461740 Link
Replying To tirawleybaron: " Replying To legendzxix: "April 1st/2nd: Allianz FL Division 1, 2, 3 and 4 finals April 8th/9th: Connacht London v Sligo New York v Leitrim Roscommon v Mayo Leinster Longford v Offaly Wicklow v Carlow Wexford v Laois Munster Tipperary v Waterford Cork v Clare Ulster Armagh v Antrim One week is a short turn around for any of the above who make division finals." Whatever about the preliminary rounds of Ulster and Leinster starting early, it's a joke that Connacht and Munster start so early when they only have a handful of teams" Should all pairings 'double up' as League & Championship when possible? League schedule could have 1st Rd/QF pairings early in the league with anticipated SFs/Finals playing later. It could happen more often if the League went to 12/12/8. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2580 - 04/03/2023 14:50:10 2461760 Link
Has the rule about giving a penalty and a black card if someone is through on goal, but outside the penalty area, and taken out of it been done away with? I can't remember the last time I saw it implemented. Just saw an Armagh lad taken out when straight through and a free and a yellow were given. Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1828 - 04/03/2023 20:38:06 2461831 Link
Replying To Mayonman: "Has the rule about giving a penalty and a black card if someone is through on goal, but outside the penalty area, and taken out of it been done away with? I can't remember the last time I saw it implemented. Just saw an Armagh lad taken out when straight through and a free and a yellow were given." Doesn't it have to be a "black card" foul? The Armagh lad had his arm pulled, but wasn't pulled down. Not a black card IMO. MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 420 - 04/03/2023 20:58:57 2461834 Link
A lot for Tyrone to do tomorrow v Kerry. Early start for Kerry supporters, travel safely. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2012 - 04/03/2023 21:14:54 2461838 Link
Replying To MayoDan: "Doesn't it have to be a "black card" foul? The Armagh lad had his arm pulled, but wasn't pulled down. Not a black card IMO." Didn't realise it had to be a black card tackle. Silly rule so. Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1828 - 04/03/2023 21:30:12 2461846 Link
It's sad to watch Tyrone playing without the passion. Kerry will have easy pickings tomorrow. Dooher was a great player but I'd say he's a hard guy to please. border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 04/03/2023 21:40:56 2461851 Link
Replying To MayoDan: "Doesn't it have to be a "black card" foul? The Armagh lad had his arm pulled, but wasn't pulled down. Not a black card IMO." Seen Roscommon get two blacks for arm pulls last weekend in Clones and they weren't goal scoring chances like the one for Armagh tonight. The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3753 - 04/03/2023 21:52:30 2461854 Link
Replying To The_analyser: "Seen Roscommon get two blacks for arm pulls last weekend in Clones and they weren't goal scoring chances like the one for Armagh tonight." It being a goal scoring chance has no relevance to the black card rule. Refs get a lot of stick when they make a mistake, but giving a yellow card last night was the correct decision. MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 420 - 05/03/2023 09:50:08 2461869 Link
Replying To MayoDan: "It being a goal scoring chance has no relevance to the black card rule. Refs get a lot of stick when they make a mistake, but giving a yellow card last night was the correct decision." cynical play stopping goal scoring chances was one of the reasons it was brought in. My point was on our own incidents they were arm tackles not pull downs and a confused Niall Cullen gave a black instead of a yellow twice. Refs have no consistency on black card awards, simliar incidents different cards week on week. The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3753 - 05/03/2023 10:35:14 2461883 Link
Replying To border Gael: "It's sad to watch Tyrone playing without the passion. Kerry will have easy pickings tomorrow. Dooher was a great player but I'd say he's a hard guy to please." No better team than Tyrone to come out fighting when written off. Great win for them. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11229 - 05/03/2023 14:26:21 2461923 Link
Just finished watching Tyrone/Kerry..disgusting to be watching the carry on of grown men on both teams..constant niggling,pulling,dragging and sledging..it must be tempting for a player to give a belt of a fist when he's surrounded,on the ground and opposition roaring into their face..also total lack of respect for refs in all games when giving out cards,completely ignored by players getting them..if this is what juvenile players are watching how are they expected to have any respect for officials..I noticed it in both matches yesterday and in the match just finishes..like to get others opinion in this.. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2214 - 05/03/2023 14:35:47 2461928 Link