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Replying To OpenStand: "Sure if he goes near a Clare PLayer they fall to the ground as if they were shot ( like Ennis last year ) and a heap of keyboard warriors like yourself stir up attacks on the media & social media against the man and anyone that ever wore a Limerick Jersey . Trash Talking & Feigning Injuries are lowest of the low but thats what Limerick face every day they go out ." Always the victims sure LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2472 - 23/05/2023 15:39:07 2480971 Link
Replying To LimerickandProud: "I fully accept your comment about fatigue, a couple of times last Sunday a few different players didn't attack the ball and waited for a pass to come to them and a couple of other cases threw a pass to where they expected another player to be and the player wasn't there. These are sure signs of fatigue which is totally understandable when you have as much mileage on the clock as these boys have over the last 6 years . If they go back to playing heads up hurling on Sunday they can beat Cork. My specific reference was to the one player being single out, highlighted and vilified by these people with agendas with the sole purpose putting a target on his back and influencing referees decision by consciously or subconsciously considering that players temperament or history when making decisions on the field rather than what's actually happening in the match in front of them. If you saw the "attention" that player go off the Tipp number 9 out by the side line in the first five minutes on Sunday it was nothing short of a scandal. I believe it was let go by the ref and linesman because of the Limerick player involved, however if that same Limerick player reacted to this treatment, then I'm sure action would have been taken. This has in my opinion greatly affected that players ability to make a tackle, or put in a shoulder as any mistimed tackle likely be highlighted by RTE or or the other social media keyboard warriors, using still or slow motion shots to make the tackle look much worse than it is. Its obvious that the player is now tormented every time he takes to the Field and my point was that these individuals appear to have got their wish." Sorry but that's BS. Did Dan Mc have him grabbed by the balls or the ear?! Brendan Maher done a similar job for Tipp in 2019 on a host of players. Nothing at all in the rules against being touch tight on someone. You're making stuff up now tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 23/05/2023 15:42:36 2480974 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "Sorry but that's BS. Did Dan Mc have him grabbed by the balls or the ear?! Brendan Maher done a similar job for Tipp in 2019 on a host of players. Nothing at all in the rules against being touch tight on someone. You're making stuff up now" Fully agree with you,we are champions,a target on our backs, either take it on or not,look I love this Limerick team they have given us Limerick supporters so much,if they never win anything again,I will still love love them and celebrate them, genuinely believe they are tired,they are on the road 6 years, every team so far in Munster are upping their game against Limerick,I feel sorry for the refs at the moment, impossible to get it right. cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 775 - 23/05/2023 16:08:52 2480993 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "Sorry but that's BS. Did Dan Mc have him grabbed by the balls or the ear?! Brendan Maher done a similar job for Tipp in 2019 on a host of players. Nothing at all in the rules against being touch tight on someone. You're making stuff up now" You're usually seem well balanced on your posts Tiobraid but i think the point you are missing is that people are free to push and shove Hegarty around the field and its not BS we see it with our own two eyes, John Conlon did the very same when he came on against Clare. I don't think anyone really has a problem with any of that, I think its part of the game and god help us if we lose it, the problem we all have is that Hegarty can't give back what is dished out to him. If he reacts the person marking him will also react even more aggressively and it will escalate further and the crowd will go mad and all the pundits and opponents will be scratching their heads asking why is Hegarty at it again and will he ever learn and on an on it goes. I'm not going to post on this anymore now :) Just going to look forward to the match against the rebels on Sunday in what will hopefully be another epic encounter and hopefully we can get the win. Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 384 - 23/05/2023 16:15:12 2480998 Link
I don't have a problem with anything Tipp's players did last Sunday. I thought McCormack played well on Hegarty. The only thing questionable was Barrett and the high ball with Flanagan. Possible red card under current rules. Our lads have got away with possible red cards over the last few seasons. Tipperary played very well and the headlines were mainly about Limerick being poor. Tipp's work rate is impressive. I don't think they have got the credit they deserved for last week. I think the frustration within our players/fans is that we are not reaching the levels of last year. But we are getting there. Once we do, a lot of the talk of rough treatment of our players will be gone as it won't matter. If we can get the win next Sunday and if Tipperary beat Waterford, we'll have the scenic route to Croker and that might benefit us. If we lose, it will be like 2019 again and we'll all be feverish for hurling next December. Either way we'll be competitive, expecting a big say which is a testament to our Management team. slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 23/05/2023 16:19:19 2481001 Link
Replying To Fitzy01: "You're usually seem well balanced on your posts Tiobraid but i think the point you are missing is that people are free to push and shove Hegarty around the field and its not BS we see it with our own two eyes, John Conlon did the very same when he came on against Clare. I don't think anyone really has a problem with any of that, I think its part of the game and god help us if we lose it, the problem we all have is that Hegarty can't give back what is dished out to him. If he reacts the person marking him will also react even more aggressively and it will escalate further and the crowd will go mad and all the pundits and opponents will be scratching their heads asking why is Hegarty at it again and will he ever learn and on an on it goes. I'm not going to post on this anymore now :) Just going to look forward to the match against the rebels on Sunday in what will hopefully be another epic encounter and hopefully we can get the win." Fitzy we will agree to differ on this. I can't remember hegarty ever getting punished for pushing or shoving. We all played the game and know the best players will be targeted and people will get into their faces but I felt your suggestion was that what Dan was doing was completely out of order and dirty. I feel Hegarty looks like a player who's burnt out but it's not the first year he has failed to play to his best early in the year and we all know how he finished up last year. There's no way Dan Mc would stop a firing Hegarty….he's been off form himself the last 12 months. Tom M has started like a train this year but he has had matches early on in years that were below his best. I've zero doubt we will see the best of Hegarty again this year. His confidence is in the gutter at the min and we can only speculate the reason for it. That shot for a goal the last day summed up where his form is. I don't think Cork have the player to man mark him so we could see him back to his best soon enough tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 23/05/2023 18:19:39 2481054 Link
Replying To slayer: "I don't have a problem with anything Tipp's players did last Sunday. I thought McCormack played well on Hegarty. The only thing questionable was Barrett and the high ball with Flanagan. Possible red card under current rules. Our lads have got away with possible red cards over the last few seasons. Tipperary played very well and the headlines were mainly about Limerick being poor. Tipp's work rate is impressive. I don't think they have got the credit they deserved for last week. I think the frustration within our players/fans is that we are not reaching the levels of last year. But we are getting there. Once we do, a lot of the talk of rough treatment of our players will be gone as it won't matter. If we can get the win next Sunday and if Tipperary beat Waterford, we'll have the scenic route to Croker and that might benefit us. If we lose, it will be like 2019 again and we'll all be feverish for hurling next December. Either way we'll be competitive, expecting a big say which is a testament to our Management team." Slayer I agree it could have been given but I thought it would have been very harsh. We all know Barrett is no Angel but I don't think there was intent with that one and he looked like he kind of lost control while jumping and it wasn't a clear intentional tug on the faceguard in my opinion. Personally I thought it was a game without any really controversy and as I said earlier Nash def shouldn't have been sent off tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 23/05/2023 18:23:07 2481055 Link
Replying To slayer: "I don't have a problem with anything Tipp's players did last Sunday. I thought McCormack played well on Hegarty. The only thing questionable was Barrett and the high ball with Flanagan. Possible red card under current rules. Our lads have got away with possible red cards over the last few seasons. Tipperary played very well and the headlines were mainly about Limerick being poor. Tipp's work rate is impressive. I don't think they have got the credit they deserved for last week. I think the frustration within our players/fans is that we are not reaching the levels of last year. But we are getting there. Once we do, a lot of the talk of rough treatment of our players will be gone as it won't matter. If we can get the win next Sunday and if Tipperary beat Waterford, we'll have the scenic route to Croker and that might benefit us. If we lose, it will be like 2019 again and we'll all be feverish for hurling next December. Either way we'll be competitive, expecting a big say which is a testament to our Management team." Very balanced post, Slayer. For sure some Limerick players are getting special "attention" but that has been happening for years with all the best players being targeted, man-marked, call it what you like. I think all teams might be guilty to some extent. I will be very surprised if we don't soon see a rejuvenated Lynch, Hegarty etc and when that happens all others better look out. Whether it happens next Sunday or not I don't know, but Limerick showed last Sunday that they won't give up their crowns easily, and I expect them to beat Cork and then be rightly installed as favourites for the All-Ireland. midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 541 - 23/05/2023 18:29:57 2481056 Link
Something is definitely up with Hegarty wasn't he supposed to be in Oz or something this year. Also I know from speaking to a few limerick mates that he wanted to transfer from Pats to NewcastleWest. Not sure any truth in those statements but a serious hurler like him doesn't go off the boil for no reason and his body language on Sunday for me shows something is definitely up. WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 23/05/2023 20:04:52 2481074 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "Slayer I agree it could have been given but I thought it would have been very harsh. We all know Barrett is no Angel but I don't think there was intent with that one and he looked like he kind of lost control while jumping and it wasn't a clear intentional tug on the faceguard in my opinion. Personally I thought it was a game without any really controversy and as I said earlier Nash def shouldn't have been sent off" Well Fair Play Tiobraid, a very balanced post and yes when I saw that incident with Byrne again I agree the Tipp Player was not wrong. I saw it from the far stand and reached the wrong conclusions. Tipp and Limerick Affairs are always hard tough affairs and the counties have not won all the titles they have won with teams that are all Angels. There are a few contributors-and I emphasise A FEW- from a certain county on here who are always blaming Referees. They have lost four of every five finals they have played and have a huge Hurling Population. It cant be all the referees fault.. As a wise man once said 'winners are winners and losers make excuses'. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4316 - 23/05/2023 20:33:04 2481081 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "Slayer I agree it could have been given but I thought it would have been very harsh. We all know Barrett is no Angel but I don't think there was intent with that one and he looked like he kind of lost control while jumping and it wasn't a clear intentional tug on the faceguard in my opinion. Personally I thought it was a game without any really controversy and as I said earlier Nash def shouldn't have been sent off" Tugging on a face guard isn't the type of thing you do unintentionally though really,, anyone can mistime a tackle in a split second tackle or accidentally strike an opponent with a knee or shoulder while focusing on the ball and not the man,, but tugging at the face guard requires you to place your palm over the mask, claw your hands and apply upward pressure. Ya can't really do that without meaning to. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1698 - 23/05/2023 21:57:33 2481090 Link
Replying To Galway9801: "Tugging on a face guard isn't the type of thing you do unintentionally though really,, anyone can mistime a tackle in a split second tackle or accidentally strike an opponent with a knee or shoulder while focusing on the ball and not the man,, but tugging at the face guard requires you to place your palm over the mask, claw your hands and apply upward pressure. Ya can't really do that without meaning to." You obviously didnt see the incident tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 24/05/2023 08:42:29 2481132 Link
Replying To WildPundit: "Something is definitely up with Hegarty wasn't he supposed to be in Oz or something this year. Also I know from speaking to a few limerick mates that he wanted to transfer from Pats to NewcastleWest. Not sure any truth in those statements but a serious hurler like him doesn't go off the boil for no reason and his body language on Sunday for me shows something is definitely up." Has hegarty transferred to Newcastlewest longtermfan (Limerick) - Posts: 120 - 24/05/2023 18:10:37 2481356 Link
Replying To longtermfan: "Has hegarty transferred to Newcastlewest" Why would he transfer to NCW. He is in Drum. If anywhere he would transfer there. Can't see him leaving Pats however. More than likely some of the usual nonsense. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4316 - 25/05/2023 08:19:30 2481407 Link
Replying To WildPundit: "Something is definitely up with Hegarty wasn't he supposed to be in Oz or something this year. Also I know from speaking to a few limerick mates that he wanted to transfer from Pats to NewcastleWest. Not sure any truth in those statements but a serious hurler like him doesn't go off the boil for no reason and his body language on Sunday for me shows something is definitely up." WP. Look above. He would have no reason to transfer to NCW, as he is living in Drum, though he teaches in NCW. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4316 - 25/05/2023 08:25:04 2481408 Link
Great game yesterday and great result. Cork played very well and could maybe have sneaked a draw. I just felt Limerick deserved it. Great to see Gearoid playing a lot better. Will O Donoghue deserves more praise. I think he's just superb in midfield. Onwards to a Munster Final now. Will be another El Classico I'm thinking Limerick2018 (Limerick) - Posts: 75 - 29/05/2023 11:37:43 2482498 Link
Will it be Thurles or will Cork lobby for it ? Or would Clare come to Gaelic Grounds close to most of their own supporters & Gaelic Grounds is nearly in Clare ?? OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 669 - 29/05/2023 12:42:05 2482526 Link
Openstand I don't think Clare would mind the Gaelic grounds..thurles probably the obvious choice,but please for everyone's sake don't take it to cork.. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2206 - 29/05/2023 13:55:57 2482565 Link
Limerick v Clare here we go again. Can't wait for this. This Limerick team have had great rivalries since 2018 with Cork initially and over the 5 years, then Galway and Waterford and now in the last couple of years it's Clares turn. It's another day to savour. Limerick going for 5 munsters in a row. Clare going for their first in 25 years. Clare like last year just want that trophy and if it was Tipp they'd have been strong favourites but now it's Limerick they'll be underdogs with the bookies which is how they like it in fairness. They were heavy favs v kilkenny last year and it wears heavy. The obvious big losses come in defense with Finn and Cleary out for both. Both huge losses but Mike Casey really upped his performance I felt yesterday. Some of the scores cork got inside were from limerick mistakes so I think the team has a nice settled look to it and with richie English there's a great man if needed for 15 mins. Cleary is a bigger loss. He has his critics but Lohan loves this guy. He has an ability to take Gillane out of the game for large parts. It's a unique skillset in fairness and does rely on a certain leeway from officials but you have to admit its worked recently. His replacement will likely be David Mc with possibly Malone switched over to cover Hego. Clare have options in the FB line but Gillane is humming and Limerick have become a nice bit direct at times mixing it up and they're creating a lot of goal chances really and this is clares achilles heel. Clare will need an aerial and physical presence there. They have options to cover cleary and Mcinerney at 7 in fairness but it does alter the natural shape. The rest of the teams pretty much pick themselves and match ups will follow similar lines. Gillane will take an extra bit of minding and this can free Flanagan and casey up. Limerick will try and get Lynch back to fitness in time but if not bigger picture will be looked at. Cathal o neill won't be happy with his performance yesterday although he never stopped showing and took a great goal. Cathal had a v good munster final last year and if cian isn't ready then he starts again. I'd expect same team as yesterday to start. Clare will be ravenous for this but Lohan will also know what happened last year but its still an enormous match for them. Limerick likewise will cherish this opportunity. It's well known Limerick tailor their season to peak around Munster final time and on from the physical sense and there will be a lot of shooting and touch in their training over the next few weeks as they plan their path to croke park. That's for the long term plan but for now it's a chance to do 5 in a row and these lads will be all out to do it. No bother way to have a munster final after possibly the best round Robin series we've seen. C Clare with an extra week? Limerick with a hugely moral boosting win yesterday seeing massive gains in certain players performance? Who has the edge? Can't wait. Luimneach abú daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1123 - 29/05/2023 14:22:25 2482573 Link
Replying To CTGAA10: "Openstand I don't think Clare would mind the Gaelic grounds..thurles probably the obvious choice,but please for everyone's sake don't take it to cork.." I read there (Examiner) that Clare want Thurles but Limerick officials want Cork and the GAA are leaning towards Cork. I cant understand that for the life of me. Has to be Thurles LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2472 - 29/05/2023 14:23:45 2482578 Link