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Replying To LarryOBrother: "Referee dealt with that incident and wrongly gave a yellow card." The referee dealt with it but incorrectly. If the ref misses something completely the issue can be dealt with by the disciplinary committee but for an incorrect call no action. Let's put it in its crudest mode. If Bennett suffered a broken leg or was out for weeks it would be okay and demand no further action because the ref dealt with it. On the other hand the Limerick player knocked off a helmet but that gets reviewed. This is just some of the b.s. going on and I don't care if it is our player or your player GAA rules are a shambles. You can't blame anyone for thinking bias exists. Another issue is transparency. In Bennett's case what is the explanation. Who reported it for a yellow card. If a genuine mistake was made say so and move on or correct it. Officials have a tough job but they are not god and may get more respect with some transparency. The same way with the Aidan McCarthy issue. No explanation, acted if it never happened and never called again. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3035 - 05/04/2023 16:57:11 2469121 Link
Replying To Canuck: "Stats can be what you want them to be. I never questioned anyone of the four red cards. All but one were in retaliation and the other I did not see provocation. However striking out is a red card and can be avoided with discipline and protection for players by the officials. There is certainly no consistency. If you add Breen and some others I witnessed during this league there should have been six in total of sending offs by opposition teams. All subjective, useless stuff and does not make any team dirtier that another." Canuck you haven't responded to Gleesons kick on Breen yet. Was that retaliation for his shot being saved or why did he do it? You're a knowledgeable poster but you're getting wound up about nothing. A lot worse happens in Waterford club games every weekend. Move on tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 06/04/2023 20:06:01 2469342 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "Canuck you haven't responded to Gleesons kick on Breen yet. Was that retaliation for his shot being saved or why did he do it? You're a knowledgeable poster but you're getting wound up about nothing. A lot worse happens in Waterford club games every weekend. Move on" I did not see it or could not open it. If he did he should have been dealt a red card on the field or after review. You are putting your own spin on it to suit this particular scenario and ignoring the fact Breen was cited on the pitch for an offence and not given the proper sanction. On top of that at least two others could have gone also for the what was dished out to Bennett. I wonder why ? Bennett was dropped for the Clare fiasco last year where two players played in their positions and our marquee player on the bench. He then had to be called in when things went sideways. Prior to the game and the Cork game it was announced that the team were terrible in training. Imagine ? Both Clare and Cork must be thinking we have these guys where we want them. I have coached sport at international level and thought the team was not good in training but on the day they were lights out. That is how sport goes. We will see how it goes with Tipp this year. Especially if things start to go south. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3035 - 07/04/2023 17:16:26 2469456 Link
Sorry Limerick I want to give you back your thread but will continue to read your comments. Especially about the fantastic team you have. No doubt if a Limerick player falls over someone this year he will be tagged as dirty. It has happened before. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3035 - 07/04/2023 22:05:39 2469498 Link
By the looks of both teams we are in for a big match Sunday. Both have gone as strong as they can considering where players are right now. Its interesting that Lyng has taken 3 u20s away from their championship match tonight away to wexford . None of the 3 are listed for tonights panel Drennan starts Sunday and Clifford and Dunne on the bench v Limerick. As the kilkenny u20s manager last year I wonder what he would have thought if Cody did the same last year? Personally from a Limerick point of view we want the best they have but surely the 2 lads on the bench would benefit more from starting for the u20s in a championship match away to wexford. daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 08/04/2023 07:29:54 2469501 Link
Both Limerick and Kilkenny have strong teams out for Sunday so has the makings of a great game. The 2 best teams in the country going head to head again in a final is great to see. Both teams want to win so let the best team win Limerick2018 (Limerick) - Posts: 80 - 08/04/2023 09:40:56 2469514 Link
On the topic of Will O'Donoghue: Suspension has been accepted. But what a player. Simply outstanding. slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 08/04/2023 11:25:05 2469521 Link
I'm really looking forward to this game. From a Kilkenny point of view, I don't know what to expect, but Ryall has picked his strongest side so far, and a match against a strong Limerick side, whatever the result, should tell us a lot about this Kilkenny side. A perfect match, at the right time, leading into the provincials championships. I'll stick my neck out and say Limerick to win by 4 or 5 points. Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2753 - 08/04/2023 12:20:25 2469533 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "I'm really looking forward to this game. From a Kilkenny point of view, I don't know what to expect, but Ryall has picked his strongest side so far, and a match against a strong Limerick side, whatever the result, should tell us a lot about this Kilkenny side. A perfect match, at the right time, leading into the provincials championships. I'll stick my neck out and say Limerick to win by 4 or 5 points." Who's Ryall.? endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2393 - 08/04/2023 13:51:32 2469543 Link
Replying To endgame: "Who's Ryall.?" I meant Lyng. Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2753 - 08/04/2023 14:43:27 2469550 Link
Replying To Canuck: "I did not see it or could not open it. If he did he should have been dealt a red card on the field or after review. You are putting your own spin on it to suit this particular scenario and ignoring the fact Breen was cited on the pitch for an offence and not given the proper sanction. On top of that at least two others could have gone also for the what was dished out to Bennett. I wonder why ? Bennett was dropped for the Clare fiasco last year where two players played in their positions and our marquee player on the bench. He then had to be called in when things went sideways. Prior to the game and the Cork game it was announced that the team were terrible in training. Imagine ? Both Clare and Cork must be thinking we have these guys where we want them. I have coached sport at international level and thought the team was not good in training but on the day they were lights out. That is how sport goes. We will see how it goes with Tipp this year. Especially if things start to go south." I watched the clip Tiobraid mentions. To be fair, it was more of a trip than a kick by Gleeson. He had just missed a goal chance and maybe was frustrated, not realising that Colm Lyons had mysteriously awarded him a penalty. The Tipp player involved wasn't injured and didn't even fall down. It was no more than a yellow card for Gleeson if the ref had spotted it. Breen's kick on Bennett merited a red card but certainly wasn't strong enought to break a leg, as has been implied. By the way, I recently watched a replay of that game and would be interested to know who were the other two or more Tipp, players that should have been sent off, and what offence they committed. midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 603 - 08/04/2023 21:42:47 2469656 Link
Replying To midlands: "I watched the clip Tiobraid mentions. To be fair, it was more of a trip than a kick by Gleeson. He had just missed a goal chance and maybe was frustrated, not realising that Colm Lyons had mysteriously awarded him a penalty. The Tipp player involved wasn't injured and didn't even fall down. It was no more than a yellow card for Gleeson if the ref had spotted it. Breen's kick on Bennett merited a red card but certainly wasn't strong enought to break a leg, as has been implied. By the way, I recently watched a replay of that game and would be interested to know who were the other two or more Tipp, players that should have been sent off, and what offence they committed." Midlands I honestly cannot comment on the Gleeson incident as I have not seen it. He is not my favourite player and consider him a bit of a talent waste by some of his shenanigans. In fairness to him he takes it without complaining as well as dishing it out. I never employed that the kick to Bennett was a leg breaker. I used a hypothetical situation if his leg was broken or he was injured (which he was) the incident would not be reviewed because the ref dealt with it. If we start going down the road of how much force is in a particular kick then we are going down an other alley. A kick or an attempted kick is a red card full stop. May be sending off for two players may be over stated but at least yellow for any other of actually three players would have protected him. He took checks into his back and sides when the ball was at the other end of the field. Not going to start naming players who had nothing assessed against them. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3035 - 09/04/2023 13:51:28 2469773 Link
Replying To midlands: "I watched the clip Tiobraid mentions. To be fair, it was more of a trip than a kick by Gleeson. He had just missed a goal chance and maybe was frustrated, not realising that Colm Lyons had mysteriously awarded him a penalty. The Tipp player involved wasn't injured and didn't even fall down. It was no more than a yellow card for Gleeson if the ref had spotted it. Breen's kick on Bennett merited a red card but certainly wasn't strong enought to break a leg, as has been implied. By the way, I recently watched a replay of that game and would be interested to know who were the other two or more Tipp, players that should have been sent off, and what offence they committed." Midlands I honestly cannot comment on the Gleeson incident as I have not seen it. He is not my favourite player and consider him a bit of a talent waste by some of his shenanigans. In fairness to him he takes it without complaining as well as dishing it out. I never employed that the kick to Bennett was a leg breaker. I used a hypothetical situation if his leg was broken or he was injured (which he was) the incident would not be reviewed because the ref dealt with it. If we start going down the road of how much force is in a particular kick then we are going down an other alley. A kick or an attempted kick is a red card full stop. May be sending off for two players may be over stated but at least yellow for any other of actually three players would have protected him. He took checks into his back and sides when the ball was at the other end of the field. Not going to start naming players who had nothing assessed against them. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3035 - 09/04/2023 14:03:11 2469779 Link
Congratulations Limerick. Job well done. Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2494 - 09/04/2023 15:32:52 2469799 Link
Limerick are so far ahead of everyone. Could have been double the score. God help us in two weeks. The amount of times one player out muscled two Kilkenny players was unbelievable. Congrats to a great team and it looks like the train is going keep chugging along. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3035 - 09/04/2023 15:56:48 2469807 Link
Davy's Waterford will be a different challenge on April 23. Going by Davy's previous tactics I'd say Waterford will start ferociously and will hit hard with runners going in all directions. Limerick tend to do damage to teams in the second and third quarters. Davy could target a whirlwind start (like Kilkenny v us in 2019) or to finish strong (like Cork did v us in 2019). I think Limerick 2023 is a far better squad than 2019. Best Limerick squad ever? It will be a very interesting game. Davy will relish the chance to stall the Limerick juggernaut. For JK & PK they need to see who is putting the hand up for a starting position over the next two weeks. slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 10/04/2023 09:06:46 2469942 Link
Any update on Declan & Kyle? Precautionary i hope dingo (Limerick) - Posts: 23 - 10/04/2023 14:47:05 2470020 Link
Replying To slayer: "Davy's Waterford will be a different challenge on April 23. Going by Davy's previous tactics I'd say Waterford will start ferociously and will hit hard with runners going in all directions. Limerick tend to do damage to teams in the second and third quarters. Davy could target a whirlwind start (like Kilkenny v us in 2019) or to finish strong (like Cork did v us in 2019). I think Limerick 2023 is a far better squad than 2019. Best Limerick squad ever? It will be a very interesting game. Davy will relish the chance to stall the Limerick juggernaut. For JK & PK they need to see who is putting the hand up for a starting position over the next two weeks." Davy will do nothing Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2305 - 10/04/2023 14:54:28 2470027 Link
Replying To Bon: "Davy will do nothing" I agree. It is up to the Waterford players to do something and the mountain is high. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3035 - 10/04/2023 15:25:13 2470042 Link
Replying To dingo: "Any update on Declan & Kyle? Precautionary i hope" Both OK according to Kiely. He expects them to be able to go back training this week. skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1106 - 10/04/2023 16:56:12 2470064 Link