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Anyone else find these comments utterly bizarre and disingenuous when you think of all of Dublin's commercial partners. https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/dublin-chief-john-costello-fears-job-losses-and-asset-sales-over-500k-cut-in-coaching-funding-42196121.html TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 06/12/2022 10:45:08 2449624 Link
Replying To TerribleFootwork: "Anyone else find these comments utterly bizarre and disingenuous when you think of all of Dublin's commercial partners. https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/dublin-chief-john-costello-fears-job-losses-and-asset-sales-over-500k-cut-in-coaching-funding-42196121.html" Would assets be the numerous cars for the numerous lads Thechick (Westmeath) - Posts: 268 - 06/12/2022 11:09:58 2449626 Link
Do like the other 31 Counties... fundraise. There are 1.4m people in Dublin get 50 cent off each of them.... Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2293 - 06/12/2022 11:55:20 2449633 Link
Replying To Seanfanbocht: "Do like the other 31 Counties... fundraise. There are 1.4m people in Dublin get 50 cent off each of them...." Dublin clubs already fundraise massively to pay for GPOs, as well as all the other costs associated with running their clubs. A cut in funding from the GAA for GPOs means either clubs fundraise more to make up the shortfall or there are less GPOs. I don't really see what's so ridiculous about his comments to be honest. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13796 - 06/12/2022 12:20:41 2449639 Link
John Costello does like to be in the limelight. Pretty ill advised comments in my opinion. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8380 - 06/12/2022 12:22:35 2449640 Link
Replying To TerribleFootwork: "Anyone else find these comments utterly bizarre and disingenuous when you think of all of Dublin's commercial partners. https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/dublin-chief-john-costello-fears-job-losses-and-asset-sales-over-500k-cut-in-coaching-funding-42196121.html" It's doubtful he will find much support for his position amongst the wider GAA community. He does make a good point about the upper age limit. 37 does seem high! Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15713 - 06/12/2022 12:30:11 2449641 Link
In fairness to Costello, he's just looking out for his own patch and battling their own corner, same as any county CEO should do. Still unlikely he'll find much support outside of Dublin, though.... Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2856 - 06/12/2022 12:46:52 2449646 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "Dublin clubs already fundraise massively to pay for GPOs, as well as all the other costs associated with running their clubs. A cut in funding from the GAA for GPOs means either clubs fundraise more to make up the shortfall or there are less GPOs. I don't really see what's so ridiculous about his comments to be honest." Do you really want to start breaking down the numbers club for club and start comparing the income in Dublin compared to the rest of the country? Dublin will be more than fine even with the loss of revenue. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8380 - 06/12/2022 12:58:44 2449650 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "In fairness to Costello, he's just looking out for his own patch and battling their own corner, same as any county CEO should do. Still unlikely he'll find much support outside of Dublin, though...." We have crossed pikes before but I tend to take same view. I can see where he is coming from and is fighting our corner. He does have a point regarding shift from underage to adults, but Dublin also has a problem - not sure how it compares to other counties - in transitioning juveniles up the age grades, My own club won under 12s and under 14s ten years ago and not one is playing with the adults who are struggling to maintain numbers. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3520 - 06/12/2022 13:34:32 2449655 Link
He's dead right, they've cut the legs out from under the youth in Dublin, hammer blow for Gaelic Games in County. Its actually funny how stupid the funding model is. We'll persevere, despite. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4516 - 06/12/2022 13:53:43 2449657 Link
Replying To TheUsername: "He's dead right, they've cut the legs out from under the youth in Dublin, hammer blow for Gaelic Games in County. Its actually funny how stupid the funding model is. We'll persevere, despite." Without wishing to sound glib, does anyone think that investing in coaching for any 30-something is the best way of spending finances? Will our GPOs be expected to arrange a Go Games programme for over-35s? Are we to develop Tag Camán and Tag Peil programmes? Do we really need to even include 23-year-olds when we are allocating scarce funding resources?" he asked. I agree with him on this. I've been someone that has defended the GAA over the funding to Dublin. It was a huge success and I was always worried about defunding something that was actually strongly achieving what it was intended for. That being said it's not so long ago that Dublin were enjoying an unprecedented period of success and whatever about a recent drop off the future is likely still very bright for them. The association does have to bear competitive balance, making sure that potential future contenders don't fall behind to such a critical extent. So all in all maybe now is the right time to tweak things. You would hope that not too many jobs are lost as they can plug some of the deficit. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4522 - 06/12/2022 17:41:15 2449680 Link
GAA central funding should be allocated per head of population in terms of registered players. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11563 - 06/12/2022 18:49:46 2449690 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "Dublin clubs already fundraise massively to pay for GPOs, as well as all the other costs associated with running their clubs. A cut in funding from the GAA for GPOs means either clubs fundraise more to make up the shortfall or there are less GPOs. I don't really see what's so ridiculous about his comments to be honest." Isn't it great that clubs are able to fundraise enough to funds GPO's for every club in the county... meanwhile here in Leitrim we fundraise to keep the dressing room lights on. I think I'll have to take out my small violin for John Costello's annual moan... Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1303 - 06/12/2022 21:26:01 2449707 Link
Maybe in his own words Dublin clubs should just volunteer more? Seeing as he said others weren't doing it enough in the past. oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1623 - 06/12/2022 21:26:21 2449708 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "GAA central funding should be allocated per head of population in terms of registered players." I don't see why that'd necessarily be the case to be honest. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4522 - 07/12/2022 16:03:09 2449777 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "I don't see why that'd necessarily be the case to be honest." Weaker counties would do even less well if that was the measure. Certain counties like Mayo, Galway, Mayo probably better, I can certainly see why people resent Costello comments and its embarrassing if it comes across as poor mouth but he does have a point. Maybe part of solution is that Dublin put more of the sponsorship money into the younger age groups. Problem there of course is that the big sponsors are solely interested in the big teams and names, That applies to other counties too of course. Dublin generally is going down the tubes and one of positives for community as a whole has been GAA juvenile sections. Same in other urban areas of course and they too will take a hit. Difficult one to get right. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3520 - 07/12/2022 17:21:13 2449784 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "Without wishing to sound glib, does anyone think that investing in coaching for any 30-something is the best way of spending finances? Will our GPOs be expected to arrange a Go Games programme for over-35s? Are we to develop Tag Camán and Tag Peil programmes? Do we really need to even include 23-year-olds when we are allocating scarce funding resources?" he asked. I agree with him on this. I've been someone that has defended the GAA over the funding to Dublin. It was a huge success and I was always worried about defunding something that was actually strongly achieving what it was intended for. That being said it's not so long ago that Dublin were enjoying an unprecedented period of success and whatever about a recent drop off the future is likely still very bright for them. The association does have to bear competitive balance, making sure that potential future contenders don't fall behind to such a critical extent. So all in all maybe now is the right time to tweak things. You would hope that not too many jobs are lost as they can plug some of the deficit." Of course funding Dublin to such a ridiculous extent was a "huge success " (for them)..no one's arguing that. Problem was it was at the expense and detriment of every other county board, club and juvenile player outside Dublin. Either that or the rest of us just don't volunteer enough.. cuttothebone (Kildare) - Posts: 168 - 07/12/2022 18:11:18 2449790 Link
Replying To Square_B: "Isn't it great that clubs are able to fundraise enough to funds GPO's for every club in the county... meanwhile here in Leitrim we fundraise to keep the dressing room lights on. I think I'll have to take out my small violin for John Costello's annual moan..." Or maybe you can take out your small violin and do some busking to raise a few euro to pay the light bill up there in Leitrim ! DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 940 - 08/12/2022 08:02:51 2449802 Link
Replying To DUBJOHN: "Or maybe you can take out your small violin and do some busking to raise a few euro to pay the light bill up there in Leitrim !" Good man John smashing contribution... Sometimes I do wonder do we all belong to the same organisation at all... the forefathers of the GAA certainly wouldn't have wanted to see the organisation turn into "the haves and have nots". Lads like you wouldn't last a minute at a small rural club.... you'd be running out the door with your tail between your legs. The real backbone of the GAA is those clubs who literally raise funds to keep the lights on. Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1303 - 08/12/2022 09:57:07 2449811 Link
Replying To Square_B: "Good man John smashing contribution... Sometimes I do wonder do we all belong to the same organisation at all... the forefathers of the GAA certainly wouldn't have wanted to see the organisation turn into "the haves and have nots". Lads like you wouldn't last a minute at a small rural club.... you'd be running out the door with your tail between your legs. The real backbone of the GAA is those clubs who literally raise funds to keep the lights on." I'm a member of one such club in Dublin. DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 940 - 08/12/2022 10:58:14 2449823 Link