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BBC doing the right thing at last. Between the Beeb (until the Tories kill it off) and Tyrone TV, I'm well sorted tbh. Old enough to remember when the only GAA on TV was the football and hurling AI finals ... not that we cared either, so many great days out in bad cars, up and down the country. Now that I can watch games on my laptop or on TV, I don't go to as many in person. Pluses, minuses ...
points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 242 - 26/10/2022 20:36:36
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Replying To TerribleFootwork: "Really just boils down to that posters distain for Wexford hurling and using opportunity to stick the boot in." For sure. Good thing it's so hard to put a knitting needle through a sliotar!!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12031 - 27/10/2022 07:48:25
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Replying To TerribleFootwork: "Really just boils down to that posters distain for Wexford hurling and using opportunity to stick the boot in." Got it in 1.
Have lurked around the Wexford board for years, and know this is 100% fact.
I have on many occasions had people from Dublin and other parts of Ireland down in Wexford, as we tend to do a mini pub crawl a few times every summer, often moving between bars at 1/2 time, between matches, and so on.
I can tell you for absolute certain, that if you went in to 5 pubs in Wexford town or indeed Gorey, between May and Sept you would not find 5 pubs in the whole towns who are not showing GAA, let alone 5 pubs in a row. And given the small overlap between GAA championship and football/rugby seasons is so small this story doesn't stack up.
But there is that "Story".......and if its on the internet, it must be true.
Cool story though bro. It was a good try.
ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1136 - 27/10/2022 09:23:42
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Replying To Greengrass: "Really?" Ya, I actually think they do a good job given the circumstances.
The structures they are dealing with and the elected officials (county board, central council etc) are the people who can vote down anything. The Executive have "soft" power and I can only imagine that to get anything done requires a lot of "buttering up".
In recent years we have seen many county boards become much more progressive as the "lifers" have retired. That is not to denigrate the "lifers" because I would imagine if you scratch beneath the surface many of them are lining pitches and washing jerseys etc for years but commitment does not equal professional expertise and when it comes to best practice on county boards etc term limits are crucial in any case.
Anyway i digress!!
I hope they have a plan!!
Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1834 - 27/10/2022 09:44:47
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I remember when the sky deal was announced there was a lot of talk about "older gaels" who wouldnt get to see these games.
The ironic thing about this deal is that now even less of the "older gaels" who will see these games. I pay for my dads tv including sky and since it came in him and a few of his friends that dont/cant go to matches anymore used it as a kind of a social thing where they would visit each other to watch the games etc.
In reality this is no better than the sky deal, its actually worse in many ways.
tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1349 - 27/10/2022 10:28:47
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Replying To tearintom: "I remember when the sky deal was announced there was a lot of talk about "older gaels" who wouldnt get to see these games.
The ironic thing about this deal is that now even less of the "older gaels" who will see these games. I pay for my dads tv including sky and since it came in him and a few of his friends that dont/cant go to matches anymore used it as a kind of a social thing where they would visit each other to watch the games etc.
In reality this is no better than the sky deal, its actually worse in many ways." Absolutely and unless the production quality increases a high quality television output is been replaced by something akin to the stream of club games.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1749 - 27/10/2022 11:28:33
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Replying To TerribleFootwork: "Absolutely and unless the production quality increases a high quality television output is been replaced by something akin to the stream of club games." Not only that but whatever your view on Sky was the simple fact was it meant more revenue for our organisation, more revenue for our sports, our games, our clubs and we rightly highlight how that money filters down the ordinary club.
Now not only have we less revenue coming in we will also have to spend way way more to get Gaa Go up to scratch, people seriously underestimate the money and work that is going to be required for this to have even a remote chance of working. This filters down to every member of the GAA.
In todays modern world where we face increasing competition from numerous other sports rather than trying to grow our games this strikes me as a rushed backwards step with very little thought gone into it other that "just get rid of sky" but hey morons like Buff are delighted!!
tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1349 - 27/10/2022 12:59:52
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Sky's aim was to turn the game professional. Lets be honest, it is a professional set up now except the players don't get paid. I didn't agree with Sky coming in from day one however they did and they tried but were unsuccessful.
They have turned every sport they touched to Gold financially except the GAA.
Darts.
Cricket.
Formula one on a different level now.
Prize money in golf has multiplied tenfold and as for the premiership.
Rugby
Rugby league
ladies sports
I could go on.
I would imagine Sky would see this as a massive failure, their was an opportunity there but was never allowed to turn professional.
thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1049 - 01/11/2022 19:16:10
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Replying To thelutch: "Sky's aim was to turn the game professional. Lets be honest, it is a professional set up now except the players don't get paid. I didn't agree with Sky coming in from day one however they did and they tried but were unsuccessful.
They have turned every sport they touched to Gold financially except the GAA.
Darts.
Cricket.
Formula one on a different level now.
Prize money in golf has multiplied tenfold and as for the premiership.
Rugby
Rugby league
ladies sports
I could go on.
I would imagine Sky would see this as a massive failure, their was an opportunity there but was never allowed to turn professional." I really doubt it was Skys aim for game to go pro. It wont get them much more money or sales in Ireland. The sport isnt going to expand or be watched by many more in UK....
It isnt a professional set up bar the players being paid. far from it.
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3512 - 01/11/2022 20:05:54
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Replying To thelutch: "Sky's aim was to turn the game professional. Lets be honest, it is a professional set up now except the players don't get paid. I didn't agree with Sky coming in from day one however they did and they tried but were unsuccessful.
They have turned every sport they touched to Gold financially except the GAA.
Darts.
Cricket.
Formula one on a different level now.
Prize money in golf has multiplied tenfold and as for the premiership.
Rugby
Rugby league
ladies sports
I could go on.
I would imagine Sky would see this as a massive failure, their was an opportunity there but was never allowed to turn professional." Mo cara, sky would not be let within an asses roar of a meeting to discuss "a challenge to the ethos of the gaa".
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2908 - 01/11/2022 20:45:28
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Replying To tearintom: "Not only that but whatever your view on Sky was the simple fact was it meant more revenue for our organisation, more revenue for our sports, our games, our clubs and we rightly highlight how that money filters down the ordinary club.
Now not only have we less revenue coming in we will also have to spend way way more to get Gaa Go up to scratch, people seriously underestimate the money and work that is going to be required for this to have even a remote chance of working. This filters down to every member of the GAA.
In todays modern world where we face increasing competition from numerous other sports rather than trying to grow our games this strikes me as a rushed backwards step with very little thought gone into it other that "just get rid of sky" but hey morons like Buff are delighted!!" Well said.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 01/11/2022 20:50:57
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Replying To thelutch: "Sky's aim was to turn the game professional. Lets be honest, it is a professional set up now except the players don't get paid. I didn't agree with Sky coming in from day one however they did and they tried but were unsuccessful.
They have turned every sport they touched to Gold financially except the GAA.
Darts.
Cricket.
Formula one on a different level now.
Prize money in golf has multiplied tenfold and as for the premiership.
Rugby
Rugby league
ladies sports
I could go on.
I would imagine Sky would see this as a massive failure, their was an opportunity there but was never allowed to turn professional." there is nothing to suggest Sky were looking for the game to go professional. If they had looked at also getting coverage of the national leagues and went to county boards about changing structures of county season etc then maybe but they didnt.
The game right now isnt near being professional without the players being paid. far from it..
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3512 - 01/11/2022 21:03:01
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Replying To thelutch: "Sky's aim was to turn the game professional. Lets be honest, it is a professional set up now except the players don't get paid. I didn't agree with Sky coming in from day one however they did and they tried but were unsuccessful.
They have turned every sport they touched to Gold financially except the GAA.
Darts.
Cricket.
Formula one on a different level now.
Prize money in golf has multiplied tenfold and as for the premiership.
Rugby
Rugby league
ladies sports
I could go on.
I would imagine Sky would see this as a massive failure, their was an opportunity there but was never allowed to turn professional." Nonsense. Care to show how it was Skys aim to turn the game pro???
It isnt at all a pro game bar the players being paid. far from it.
I wouldnt say theyve turned all sports theyve covered to gold except GAA.
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3512 - 01/11/2022 21:31:37
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Replying To thelutch: "Sky's aim was to turn the game professional. Lets be honest, it is a professional set up now except the players don't get paid. I didn't agree with Sky coming in from day one however they did and they tried but were unsuccessful.
They have turned every sport they touched to Gold financially except the GAA.
Darts.
Cricket.
Formula one on a different level now.
Prize money in golf has multiplied tenfold and as for the premiership.
Rugby
Rugby league
ladies sports
I could go on.
I would imagine Sky would see this as a massive failure, their was an opportunity there but was never allowed to turn professional." They wanted it again but couldn't reach an agreement with the GAA, doesn't sound like it failed to me
DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 268 - 01/11/2022 21:33:18
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Replying To thelutch: "Sky's aim was to turn the game professional. Lets be honest, it is a professional set up now except the players don't get paid. I didn't agree with Sky coming in from day one however they did and they tried but were unsuccessful.
They have turned every sport they touched to Gold financially except the GAA.
Darts.
Cricket.
Formula one on a different level now.
Prize money in golf has multiplied tenfold and as for the premiership.
Rugby
Rugby league
ladies sports
I could go on.
I would imagine Sky would see this as a massive failure, their was an opportunity there but was never allowed to turn professional." No it wasnt
What gives you the idea Sky wanted the game to turn professional?
It isnt a professional set up bar the players being paid. The players dont do what pros do.
They havent turned all sports to gold financially except GAA.
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3512 - 01/11/2022 22:04:05
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Replying To tearintom: "Not only that but whatever your view on Sky was the simple fact was it meant more revenue for our organisation, more revenue for our sports, our games, our clubs and we rightly highlight how that money filters down the ordinary club.
Now not only have we less revenue coming in we will also have to spend way way more to get Gaa Go up to scratch, people seriously underestimate the money and work that is going to be required for this to have even a remote chance of working. This filters down to every member of the GAA.
In todays modern world where we face increasing competition from numerous other sports rather than trying to grow our games this strikes me as a rushed backwards step with very little thought gone into it other that "just get rid of sky" but hey morons like Buff are delighted!!" Spot on Tearintom. Like many of us I've watched a good few GAAGO county and club games and they were generally pretty poor quality compared to what Sky were doing. And they still won't be accessible to older people who are not able to watch stuff online and cost extra money for many of us who have Sky anyway on account of having kids etc.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12031 - 02/11/2022 11:57:11
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Replying To thelutch: "Sky's aim was to turn the game professional. Lets be honest, it is a professional set up now except the players don't get paid. I didn't agree with Sky coming in from day one however they did and they tried but were unsuccessful.
They have turned every sport they touched to Gold financially except the GAA.
Darts.
Cricket.
Formula one on a different level now.
Prize money in golf has multiplied tenfold and as for the premiership.
Rugby
Rugby league
ladies sports
I could go on.
I would imagine Sky would see this as a massive failure, their was an opportunity there but was never allowed to turn professional." Strange post lad. Don't really think they tried to do anything with the games only broadcast them. Never heard anything about Sky trying to influence GAA policy and ethos at any level.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12031 - 02/11/2022 12:01:53
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Replying To tearintom: "I remember when the sky deal was announced there was a lot of talk about "older gaels" who wouldnt get to see these games.
The ironic thing about this deal is that now even less of the "older gaels" who will see these games. I pay for my dads tv including sky and since it came in him and a few of his friends that dont/cant go to matches anymore used it as a kind of a social thing where they would visit each other to watch the games etc.
In reality this is no better than the sky deal, its actually worse in many ways." Absolutely. But not a word about it from the true gaels on here. Which shows the absolute hypocrisy of them.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 02/11/2022 13:20:56
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T na G could surely - and would like to - show more games, including those that might have been part of Sky contract for next year?
With the compressed season, there will lots of attractive fixtures on same days and times. Would surely boost their audiences and advertising revenue. It is a great channel but they have to show a lot of non Irish rubbish as fillers so would be win/win for all concerned.
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2582 - 03/11/2022 10:43:32
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Replying To BarneyGrant: "T na G could surely - and would like to - show more games, including those that might have been part of Sky contract for next year?
With the compressed season, there will lots of attractive fixtures on same days and times. Would surely boost their audiences and advertising revenue. It is a great channel but they have to show a lot of non Irish rubbish as fillers so would be win/win for all concerned." TG4 had the same option as every other broadcaster of buying the rights for the matches that would have been "the Sky package". They chose not to. A commercial decision.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2251 - 03/11/2022 11:13:52
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