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What i mean i don't think its even possible to introduce it without going through a national congress.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 22/03/2023 15:35:00 2465826 Link 0 |
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I know from your posts you are a passionate hurling man. But watching most games at u21 and Senior back then I know it took a good few years of actually playing and training at Senior intercounty level for Lee, Matt, Mogie, Dee, Ryan etc to get as good as they are now. That was the point I was making. People didn't call Lee and Matt footballers because they came straight into the hurling team and shone. They did so because the lads struggled at 1st. I've no doubt that given time, at least a couple more years, some of the newer members on the current panel will get a lot better. Look at the improvement in Shane Reck, Devitt, Dwyer, Hearne, and Donohue over the last 2 years. Or Oisin Foley just over the course of last year. And there's plenty more room for improvement in those lads as they know themselves. I'm not saying they all will do, but being negative now won't help those that might. As I posted before we've had very few underage stars that made an impact at Senior straight away. Mac, Damien Reck and Rory were outstanding underage and shone at Senior straight away. And the same would go for most of the other top counties also. The only other 2 currently in the panel that looked that good underage were Dunbar and Flood, but both have been unfortunately dogged with injuries. Before I get that down about this group or their management I'd like to wait to see how we go in the Championship. I was quite critical when we won all 5 of our League group games but didn't really start playing until the last 20 minutes against Dublin and Galway in the Championship. We only really played 2 good games in the Championship last year, against Kilkenny and Clare, and I still blame that 2nd loss on how we approached the League and how few newer players we used in it. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15691 - 22/03/2023 15:38:25 2465827 Link 0 |
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I know from your posts you are a passionate hurling man. But watching most games at u21 and Senior back then I know it took a good few years of actually playing and training at Senior intercounty level for Lee, Matt, Mogie, Dee, Ryan etc to get as good as they are now. That was the point I was making. People didn't call Lee and Matt footballers because they came straight into the hurling team and shone. They did so because the lads struggled at 1st. I've no doubt that given time, at least a couple more years, some of the newer members on the current panel will get a lot better. Look at the improvement in Shane Reck, Devitt, Dwyer, Hearne, and Donohue over the last 2 years. Or Oisin Foley just over the course of last year. And there's plenty more room for improvement in those lads as they know themselves. I'm not saying they all will do, but being negative now won't help those that might. As I posted before we've had very few underage stars that made an impact at Senior straight away. Mac, Damien Reck and Rory were outstanding underage and shone at Senior straight away. And the same would go for most of the other top counties also. The only other 2 currently in the panel that looked that good underage were Dunbar and Flood, but both have been unfortunately dogged with injuries. Before I get that down about this group or their management I'd like to wait to see how we go in the Championship. I was quite critical when we won all 5 of our League group games but didn't really start playing until the last 20 minutes against Dublin and Galway in the Championship. We only really played 2 good games in the Championship last year, against Kilkenny and Clare, and I still blame losing the 2nd of those games on how we approached the League and how few newer players we used in it. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15691 - 22/03/2023 15:40:00 2465829 Link 0 |
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I agree but if we're short Ryan and O'Hanlon in Salthill I think we might have to play Conor Foley, our 6 backs in that scenario i think would be 2 Recks, Donohoe, Devitt, Carty plus 1 more, good case he'd be the best option for the last spot.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 22/03/2023 15:43:15 2465832 Link 0 |
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What is Matt's diagnosis on his ankle? Hopefully Jippo will he has been missing for 6/7 weeks now hopefully his finger should be okay in time
Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 22/03/2023 15:53:12 2465840 Link 0 |
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I haven't heard anything to be honest but going on Egan's comments after Sunday and in the Wexford People they look the 2 players under the most pressure injury wise, O'Hanlon's is an ankle issue that's all I know and Ryan had to get plastic surgery so must have been on the complex end of finger injuries.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 22/03/2023 16:02:30 2465844 Link 0 |
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What I meant was we need to be doing things differently to the rest to give ourselves an advantage. Its what those things might be that we should all be trying to think of TerribleFootwork.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15691 - 22/03/2023 16:02:51 2465845 Link 0 |
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Apparently he rolled it. The PUC SOD is notoriously poor. But from what I was told he didn't break anything. I d be hopeful about Ryan too. But then that's me being positive and I'm sure there ll be plenty answering this post with " my uncles brother in law is a specialist and the 2 lads will miss the next 22 years"; )
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15691 - 22/03/2023 16:05:48 2465848 Link 0 |
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Maybe Flood?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15691 - 22/03/2023 16:06:30 2465849 Link 0 |
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Yeah that's a fair shout but no obvious full back if you went with those 6, for example if they played Whelan at 14 I'm not sure who'd match up physically with him, Shane Reck is a brillant man marker but not sure if he would be suited to Whelan (did well on Gillane on Sunday be all accounts to be fair), looking at the Clare league game and Limerick in the semi final last year I'd say there forwards will be something like Conor Cooney, Monaghan, Cathal Mannion, Whelan, Concannon last spot someone like Niland or Kevin Cooney, alot of physicality there.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 22/03/2023 16:18:04 2465856 Link 0 |
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Sometimes damage to ankle ligaments can be worse than a break so im hoping it was just a sprain and he'll be okay
Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 22/03/2023 16:25:31 2465859 Link 0 |
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That would be my worry. If we were missing Matt and Jippo we are hugely lacking the physicality to compete with the likes of Whelan and Conor Cooney
Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 22/03/2023 16:28:25 2465860 Link 0 |
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Hope so too. He went for a scan but I don't know the results of it yet.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15691 - 22/03/2023 17:28:28 2465885 Link 0 |
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Matt hoping to be back in 4 weeks, no ligament damage hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1129 - 22/03/2023 17:49:00 2465890 Link 1 |
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Tbh I'd say Whelan will play further out. Id put Shane on him and get him to follow him around. From watching them the last couple years they will likely play 2 inside. Concannon isn't huge but is quick and turns quick and will likely start inside. We would need someone to match that. Niland maybe won't start and Monaghan likely half forward if he isnt midfield. They seem to think more of Conor Cooney than I do and he'd likely be the other half forward. I'm not sure if Cathal Mannion will be fully fit he's coming back after a hamstring and sometimes they can be tricky for months but after Whelan he'd be the lad I'd be most worried about. Not sure about Kevin Cooney he's a very direct player but not sure he'd be a starter for them. Obviously Henry will have his own ideas and won't be reading HS for advice! Neither would Darragh! We will have a spare man at the back I'd say and Carty or Reck would be best for that role in that both are good at picking passes, bringing the ball forwards, reading the game and covering the play as it develops.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15691 - 22/03/2023 17:49:06 2465891 Link 0 |
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I'm happy to be corrected but I don't think the GAA has been well run in New Ross in a very long time. That's with a very successful secondary school in the town for GAA. I know Greg Bolger who has played LOI for years is from there but doubt it's a rugby or soccer heartland either (I don't think it was a garrison town?). The town seems to be on the up (a bit anyway from a low base) so the GAA should try and capitalise. I'm struggling to think of any recent regular county player from GOH, others many know more on the difficulties there but it's going back a long time for whatever reason. Like it's same size population wise as a Nenagh or Thurles, situated near KK and Waterford. Should be a senior club in both sports if brought back on track.
Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 400 - 22/03/2023 19:29:23 2465916 Link 0 |
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MOH played very well down in Cork at full back. If both fit, wonder if they might try Ryan at 6 and MOH at 3? Reck isn't a 6 for me, much better in the full back line. I'd be happy with the 2 x Recks in both corners and Donohue one wing and one of Carty/Flood on other. Flood was very poor in the league though. Midfield I don't see any of our options being able to match Cooney physically. Midfield options look weak if I'm honest, can't keep going back to McGovern. Foley hasn't shown any form in a long time. DOK is very loose. Dunbar too similar for me, not going to win hard ball. Chin can't be everywhere either. Up front we are reliant on ROC bringing his usual league form to the championship. Maybe at 11 with more space. Chin will drop between HF and FF. I prefer him further out but either way we need him and ROC on fire. Mac actually did very well on Burke last year, one of the few throughout the 70+. Dwyer I'd say will get one spot for Salthill, McGuckian is an Egan favourite, started v Galway last year from memory. Then one from Hearne/Higgins/Jacko for the final spot unless Dunbar is pushed forward. Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 400 - 22/03/2023 20:02:40 2465924 Link 0 |
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Brilliant news!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15691 - 23/03/2023 11:48:07 2465960 Link 0 |
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Definitely
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15691 - 23/03/2023 11:48:47 2465962 Link 0 |
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As regards matching Cooney physically I think we would be better playing more of a running game and run at them at pace, or work the ball out to the halfback line and play it directly inside to Mac, Rory and Lee.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15691 - 23/03/2023 11:51:35 2465963 Link 0 |