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Replying To wexfordwin: "Championship Team if all available
Lawlor
Reck
Ryan
Donohue
Carty
Hanlon
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Lawlor
Dee O
Hearne
Chin
Charlie
Liam Óg
Mikey
Rory
Only 8 of these players played yesterday. Liam Ryan, Matt, Damien and Dee are crucial and hopefully Lawlor can recover and become a key player.
Impact Subs available: Dunbarr, Devitt, Higgins, Jack, Kevin Foley, Conor Foley, Mac" Good solid team, what about swapping Liam Ryan and Matthew O'Hanlon?
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Well lads i travelled to limerick yesterday knowing we would never get a win but as a season ticket holder i go to all games, i was shocked to see the way the team was set up, made no sense to me in my opinion with out best forward playing the whole game in his own half Rory o Connor, my only conclusion was that Egan played him as sweeper/spare man was to avoid him been marked to avoid another injury concern,Kevin foley looks lost now in a Wexford jersey been moved all over the field why not start him as a sweeper yesterday,jack o Connor inconsistency is a real concern aswell is it time to decide his not a forward anymore and move him back to his original underage role wing back?? Free taking and line balls are a shambles is it time now for banville to start now for frees alone… can he come in for championship under more pressure to convert frees im not to sure,playing in full forward line must be a nightmare not a big fan of mikie Dwyer but really felt sorry for him yesterday he was up there on his own,we need another scoring forward as for me mcgukian and Hearn are to similar of players.. I don't like to criticise players as there amatures at the end of the day and give savage commitment but fanning for me is finished in the goal for Wexford.. I can make he gave away 1-5 yesterday dropping the ball for the goal nearly sure he put it over the line twice which resulted in limerick scoring from.. and if I'm not mistaken pucked it straight to limerick player from pick out which resulted in another 2 scores.. I'm quite worried now going into championship as we don't seem to know what is our best system to play and for me only we have only 10 lads that are sure to start in championship… 2 recks donohoe Ryan o hanlon o keefe mac chin Rory o Connor and Dunbar after that it's a toss up for me my team would be.. lawlor reck Ryan donohoe o hanlon reck j o Connor Dunbar o keefe.. Hearne chin Oisín foley Richie lawlor Mac and Rory o Connor but that's my opinion
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Replying To hunting: "I know he is under 20, i dont think that matter, forgot about mac.what your take on the match viking?I taught the scoreline was slightly unfair, limerick the better tem no doubt and could go up another gear but we were well in there for long stretches. Conceding 1 3 for goalkeeper errors and missing so many frees was the big killer. We were very defensive too, felt sorry for the two boys inside. But valuable game time for a lot of young lads." Couldn't fault any of the lads for effort. Even Jacko got stuck in in fits and bursts although he's still the only lad I ever saw jump for balls without his feet leaving the ground. If he could sustain the intensity for 70 minutes he'd be a great intercounty hurler never mind a good one. He needs to do more running around and closing down when we don't have the ball and make more runs into space when we do. Carty got his 2 points by doing just that and he's only playing his first ever season at se ior intercounty. Dwyer and Higgins were busy but out numbered inside. We seemed to be playing with 4 half forwards, Jacko, Charlie, Conor Hearne and Lee who all did OK in fairness. I think technically speaking Lee was supposed to be midfield with Kevin centreback and Jacko centreforward but the way it actuay looked on the pitch we had the 4 lads as half forwards, Dunbar and Foley midfield and Rory centreback in effect. Noticeably he didn't go forwards as much as Damien Reck.
We are still behind the other top counties in cuteness too. As the play built up towards Hayes 8 or 9 step goal one of our lads should have took one for the team and brought down the lad around the 45 or certainly before the large rectangle. Damien Reck definitely would have took a yellow for the team in that situation. Both goals were very preventable.
I really think on balance after watching every game this year that Lawlor has to start in goal. Fanning is maybe better in general play but too often gets puckouts wrong and when he makes mistakes he makes really really bad ones. Aside from the puckouts directly to Limerick lads who put the ball straight back over his head for points he also overhit one to Carthy that sailed into the Mackey stand.
2 Limerick lads I was talking to were really impressed with Dunbar and Hearnes speed and energy. They thought we did well seeing as the only players we had on the pitch that they'd noticed before were Chin and Rory, both of whom they thought were excellent, and Kevin Foley who they thought was his usual tidy self doing the unseen work. They didn't know that Simon would be a regular championship starter for us the last few years seemingly!
When you think about it apart from Fanning, Lee, Rory, Kevin and Simon and maybe Jacko who I still don't think of as a championship starter our other 9 starters don't have 20 senior championship starts between them. Talking to the 2 Limerick lads made me realise just how inexperienced the team we had out there actually was. Of the other 9 Cathal and Shane have had a few championship starts but Niall, Ian, Nigel and Conor Foley have definitely had none, while Conor Hearne hasn't either as far as I can remember. Think Mikie and Charlie might have had 1 or 2 is all. And yet the team played pretty well overall despite its inexperience.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15639 - 20/03/2023 10:19:35
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Replying To Past hurler: "Hopefully the next few weeks will allow some injuries to heal up!
Anyone care to name their starting 15 v Galway in championship presuming we have lads back fit?" J Lawlor
S Reck, Ryan, Donohue
MOH, D Reck, Carty
DOK, K Foley
Dunbar, Mogie, O Foley
ROC, Mac, Chin
Subs- Fanning, Devitt, Dwyer, Mcguckin, Hearne, Jacko, R Lawlor, Higgins, N Murphy, Clarke, and Joe O Connor if up to speed over the next 5 weeks.
That would be my 26, although 6 or 7 of that bench could start without weakening the team a whole lot once it wasn't instead of D Reck, Ryan, Chin, RoC, DoK and MoH.
I think Conor Foley and the other u20s should be left play u20 as the u20 championship will be run off midweek at the same time pretty much as the Senior championship, although Conor would be a great option on the bench. After watching the u20s against Cork he's too important to them. Definitely our best player at that grade.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15639 - 20/03/2023 10:39:51
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Replying To gannett83: "Well lads i travelled to limerick yesterday knowing we would never get a win but as a season ticket holder i go to all games, i was shocked to see the way the team was set up, made no sense to me in my opinion with out best forward playing the whole game in his own half Rory o Connor, my only conclusion was that Egan played him as sweeper/spare man was to avoid him been marked to avoid another injury concern,Kevin foley looks lost now in a Wexford jersey been moved all over the field why not start him as a sweeper yesterday,jack o Connor inconsistency is a real concern aswell is it time to decide his not a forward anymore and move him back to his original underage role wing back?? Free taking and line balls are a shambles is it time now for banville to start now for frees alone… can he come in for championship under more pressure to convert frees im not to sure,playing in full forward line must be a nightmare not a big fan of mikie Dwyer but really felt sorry for him yesterday he was up there on his own,we need another scoring forward as for me mcgukian and Hearn are to similar of players.. I don't like to criticise players as there amatures at the end of the day and give savage commitment but fanning for me is finished in the goal for Wexford.. I can make he gave away 1-5 yesterday dropping the ball for the goal nearly sure he put it over the line twice which resulted in limerick scoring from.. and if I'm not mistaken pucked it straight to limerick player from pick out which resulted in another 2 scores.. I'm quite worried now going into championship as we don't seem to know what is our best system to play and for me only we have only 10 lads that are sure to start in championship… 2 recks donohoe Ryan o hanlon o keefe mac chin Rory o Connor and Dunbar after that it's a toss up for me my team would be.. lawlor reck Ryan donohoe o hanlon reck j o Connor Dunbar o keefe.. Hearne chin Oisín foley Richie lawlor Mac and Rory o Connor but that's my opinion" Freetaking still a big issue for sure. Can only hope Lee gets better come championship time as he has done the last few years.
Think Rory will be inside come championship for sure.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15639 - 20/03/2023 10:45:43
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Seen that the national league div 1 hurling groups are due to be re-drawn every 2 years so next year our group will be Wexford, Cork, Kilkenny, Waterford, Clare and whichever 1 of Kerry, Kildare and Offaly get promoted, that's obviously unless they decide to rip up the current structure due to all the criticism.
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Replying To Viking66: "Freetaking still a big issue for sure. Can only hope Lee gets better come championship time as he has done the last few years.
Think Rory will be inside come championship for sure." Think I read Chin got 10 out of 15 yesterday (4 wide and 1 dropped short), he actually got 9 out of our 14 wides if reports are correct.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 20/03/2023 11:21:35
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I listened to some of the match yesterday on the radio, I get that Liam Spratt is an institution/parody/etc in Wexford but mother of god he is a poor commentator in my opinion. Lots of times the co-commentators corrected him on players, decisions, and so on. At one stage he said Gearoid Hegarty looked like Tom Morrissey, unless I am wrong one wears a yellow helmet and the other a black?
But at the end Billy Byrne I think (or Tom Dempsey?) was really critical of how Wexford are setting teams up to lose by playing a defensive strategy which is not working and also frustrating the life out of inside forwards being always out numbered. I have been saying just this and especially this year Wexford are setting up to defend and are not good enough at it at every level in the game in the county and inviting teams on to us. Seeing u14 teams with sweepers, etc in the county, do clubs not put stock in training 1-on-1 drills and coaching a corner or full back how to defend that situation.
People will say "well look what happened v Clare" to point to a sweeper, that is a half back lines job read when to drop back to help the full back line out.
Every top county is now playing a different game to Wexford and as a result, Wexford are getting left behind playing a game which does not use top forwards to the best of their ability. In Rory O'Cononor and Conor McDonald Wexford have 2 forwards capable of giving any defence a mare of a day out, yet Wexford choose to play a game which is a backs game all day long. Did Wexford have 10 shots on goal in their 5 league games?
Going to watch Wexford is not an enjoyable experience. It is like the team are programmed to know 1 way to hurl from the Davy era and can't move on despite others showing them their game is defunct.
Can any of you say that you actually believe this target of winning an All-Ireland by 2027? To me, if Wexford targeted a 2 Tony Forristals and maybe a minor All-Ireland by 2027 that would be realistic and achievable. A senior All-Ireland is delusional to be realistic about where hurling in the county is.
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Replying To Viking66: "J Lawlor
S Reck, Ryan, Donohue
MOH, D Reck, Carty
DOK, K Foley
Dunbar, Mogie, O Foley
ROC, Mac, Chin
Subs- Fanning, Devitt, Dwyer, Mcguckin, Hearne, Jacko, R Lawlor, Higgins, N Murphy, Clarke, and Joe O Connor if up to speed over the next 5 weeks.
That would be my 26, although 6 or 7 of that bench could start without weakening the team a whole lot once it wasn't instead of D Reck, Ryan, Chin, RoC, DoK and MoH.
I think Conor Foley and the other u20s should be left play u20 as the u20 championship will be run off midweek at the same time pretty much as the Senior championship, although Conor would be a great option on the bench. After watching the u20s against Cork he's too important to them. Definitely our best player at that grade." Thought some more about it and we would need Banville instead of Joe OC on the bench for frees if Chin had to go off.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15639 - 20/03/2023 11:34:08
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Replying To TerribleFootwork: "Seen that the national league div 1 hurling groups are due to be re-drawn every 2 years so next year our group will be Wexford, Cork, Kilkenny, Waterford, Clare and whichever 1 of Kerry, Kildare and Offaly get promoted, that's obviously unless they decide to rip up the current structure due to all the criticism." I think they should go back to the old 6 team 1a and 1b that they had up to a few years ago. Only they should call 1b what it is- div2. Div2a will be div3 and on down the line. And scrap all the semifinals and finals. 2 up and 2 down to keep it interesting and all games relevant. And whoever finishes top of each table is that years league champions for that division.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15639 - 20/03/2023 11:36:44
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "I listened to some of the match yesterday on the radio, I get that Liam Spratt is an institution/parody/etc in Wexford but mother of god he is a poor commentator in my opinion. Lots of times the co-commentators corrected him on players, decisions, and so on. At one stage he said Gearoid Hegarty looked like Tom Morrissey, unless I am wrong one wears a yellow helmet and the other a black?
But at the end Billy Byrne I think (or Tom Dempsey?) was really critical of how Wexford are setting teams up to lose by playing a defensive strategy which is not working and also frustrating the life out of inside forwards being always out numbered. I have been saying just this and especially this year Wexford are setting up to defend and are not good enough at it at every level in the game in the county and inviting teams on to us. Seeing u14 teams with sweepers, etc in the county, do clubs not put stock in training 1-on-1 drills and coaching a corner or full back how to defend that situation.
People will say "well look what happened v Clare" to point to a sweeper, that is a half back lines job read when to drop back to help the full back line out.
Every top county is now playing a different game to Wexford and as a result, Wexford are getting left behind playing a game which does not use top forwards to the best of their ability. In Rory O'Cononor and Conor McDonald Wexford have 2 forwards capable of giving any defence a mare of a day out, yet Wexford choose to play a game which is a backs game all day long. Did Wexford have 10 shots on goal in their 5 league games?
Going to watch Wexford is not an enjoyable experience. It is like the team are programmed to know 1 way to hurl from the Davy era and can't move on despite others showing them their game is defunct.
Can any of you say that you actually believe this target of winning an All-Ireland by 2027? To me, if Wexford targeted a 2 Tony Forristals and maybe a minor All-Ireland by 2027 that would be realistic and achievable. A senior All-Ireland is delusional to be realistic about where hurling in the county is." Have to aim high I guess. Last years u20 team were good and hopefully this year's will be better. Those lads will be 24 or 25 in 2027. As regards sweepers I agree its wingbacks jobs to cover back and midfielders to cover the wingbacks when they go forwards. But if you think any intercounty team has played 3 inside in many a year you are delusional. It hasn't happened in so long I can't actually remember the game. All the teams crowd the middle 3rd. Against Limerick we seemed to have 4 half forwards. 2 midfielders and 3 halfbacks with Rory playing centreback. I know that's not how they were meant to set up but that's the way it looked. Limerick only had 1 or 2 inside all game. They only had 1 goal chance and took that due to naive defending and generous refereeing, not on account of having 3 inside which they didnt. The other goal me or you would've scored when Fanning dropped it against Gillane and it fell just over the line.
If you want to see what desperate inside forward play looks like check out Dessie Hutchinsons stats on hurlerontheditch!!!!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15639 - 20/03/2023 11:48:12
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "I listened to some of the match yesterday on the radio, I get that Liam Spratt is an institution/parody/etc in Wexford but mother of god he is a poor commentator in my opinion. Lots of times the co-commentators corrected him on players, decisions, and so on. At one stage he said Gearoid Hegarty looked like Tom Morrissey, unless I am wrong one wears a yellow helmet and the other a black?
But at the end Billy Byrne I think (or Tom Dempsey?) was really critical of how Wexford are setting teams up to lose by playing a defensive strategy which is not working and also frustrating the life out of inside forwards being always out numbered. I have been saying just this and especially this year Wexford are setting up to defend and are not good enough at it at every level in the game in the county and inviting teams on to us. Seeing u14 teams with sweepers, etc in the county, do clubs not put stock in training 1-on-1 drills and coaching a corner or full back how to defend that situation.
People will say "well look what happened v Clare" to point to a sweeper, that is a half back lines job read when to drop back to help the full back line out.
Every top county is now playing a different game to Wexford and as a result, Wexford are getting left behind playing a game which does not use top forwards to the best of their ability. In Rory O'Cononor and Conor McDonald Wexford have 2 forwards capable of giving any defence a mare of a day out, yet Wexford choose to play a game which is a backs game all day long. Did Wexford have 10 shots on goal in their 5 league games?
Going to watch Wexford is not an enjoyable experience. It is like the team are programmed to know 1 way to hurl from the Davy era and can't move on despite others showing them their game is defunct.
Can any of you say that you actually believe this target of winning an All-Ireland by 2027? To me, if Wexford targeted a 2 Tony Forristals and maybe a minor All-Ireland by 2027 that would be realistic and achievable. A senior All-Ireland is delusional to be realistic about where hurling in the county is." Let's see how the Wexford minors fair out v Kerry this Saturday in Portlaoise first.
I know Kerry are now a decent hurling county but we should still be beating Kerry well if we have ambitions of doing well in the minor all-ireland series.
Past hurler (None) - Posts: 921 - 20/03/2023 12:07:05
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "I listened to some of the match yesterday on the radio, I get that Liam Spratt is an institution/parody/etc in Wexford but mother of god he is a poor commentator in my opinion. Lots of times the co-commentators corrected him on players, decisions, and so on. At one stage he said Gearoid Hegarty looked like Tom Morrissey, unless I am wrong one wears a yellow helmet and the other a black?
But at the end Billy Byrne I think (or Tom Dempsey?) was really critical of how Wexford are setting teams up to lose by playing a defensive strategy which is not working and also frustrating the life out of inside forwards being always out numbered. I have been saying just this and especially this year Wexford are setting up to defend and are not good enough at it at every level in the game in the county and inviting teams on to us. Seeing u14 teams with sweepers, etc in the county, do clubs not put stock in training 1-on-1 drills and coaching a corner or full back how to defend that situation.
People will say "well look what happened v Clare" to point to a sweeper, that is a half back lines job read when to drop back to help the full back line out.
Every top county is now playing a different game to Wexford and as a result, Wexford are getting left behind playing a game which does not use top forwards to the best of their ability. In Rory O'Cononor and Conor McDonald Wexford have 2 forwards capable of giving any defence a mare of a day out, yet Wexford choose to play a game which is a backs game all day long. Did Wexford have 10 shots on goal in their 5 league games?
Going to watch Wexford is not an enjoyable experience. It is like the team are programmed to know 1 way to hurl from the Davy era and can't move on despite others showing them their game is defunct.
Can any of you say that you actually believe this target of winning an All-Ireland by 2027? To me, if Wexford targeted a 2 Tony Forristals and maybe a minor All-Ireland by 2027 that would be realistic and achievable. A senior All-Ireland is delusional to be realistic about where hurling in the county is." I think this All Ireland by a certain date is a bit silly anyway as there are so many variables. A county could develop a brilliant crop of players by that counties standard but if a generational team like Limerick or the Dublin footballers of recent times arrive at the same time its alot tougher task, just take the Mayo team of 2016-17 who in my opinion are better than alot of all ireland winning teams.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 20/03/2023 12:22:52
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "I listened to some of the match yesterday on the radio, I get that Liam Spratt is an institution/parody/etc in Wexford but mother of god he is a poor commentator in my opinion. Lots of times the co-commentators corrected him on players, decisions, and so on. At one stage he said Gearoid Hegarty looked like Tom Morrissey, unless I am wrong one wears a yellow helmet and the other a black?
But at the end Billy Byrne I think (or Tom Dempsey?) was really critical of how Wexford are setting teams up to lose by playing a defensive strategy which is not working and also frustrating the life out of inside forwards being always out numbered. I have been saying just this and especially this year Wexford are setting up to defend and are not good enough at it at every level in the game in the county and inviting teams on to us. Seeing u14 teams with sweepers, etc in the county, do clubs not put stock in training 1-on-1 drills and coaching a corner or full back how to defend that situation.
People will say "well look what happened v Clare" to point to a sweeper, that is a half back lines job read when to drop back to help the full back line out.
Every top county is now playing a different game to Wexford and as a result, Wexford are getting left behind playing a game which does not use top forwards to the best of their ability. In Rory O'Cononor and Conor McDonald Wexford have 2 forwards capable of giving any defence a mare of a day out, yet Wexford choose to play a game which is a backs game all day long. Did Wexford have 10 shots on goal in their 5 league games?
Going to watch Wexford is not an enjoyable experience. It is like the team are programmed to know 1 way to hurl from the Davy era and can't move on despite others showing them their game is defunct.
Can any of you say that you actually believe this target of winning an All-Ireland by 2027? To me, if Wexford targeted a 2 Tony Forristals and maybe a minor All-Ireland by 2027 that would be realistic and achievable. A senior All-Ireland is delusional to be realistic about where hurling in the county is." Wexford winning an All Ireland by 2027? Not a hope.
Think the league has been a disaster for us mainly down to injuries and we are going into the championship with so many question marks hanging over us. Feeling pessimistic about our chances at the moment but fingers crossed everything comes together in time for Galway.
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Replying To Viking66: "I think they should go back to the old 6 team 1a and 1b that they had up to a few years ago. Only they should call 1b what it is- div2. Div2a will be div3 and on down the line. And scrap all the semifinals and finals. 2 up and 2 down to keep it interesting and all games relevant. And whoever finishes top of each table is that years league champions for that division." Agree viking. Finishing the league with no semi finals or final would I think be a good move.
Whoever ends up top of their division are champions.
There would then be adequate time for teams to get their injured lads back and also allow them breathing space to prepare for the championship.
Of course the Gaa are like a big ship, slow to turn and I honestly can't really see them changing tradition.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 447 - 20/03/2023 12:41:24
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We've played 8 games this year between League and Walsh Cup, think Hearne and McGuckin started all 8, Higgins and Carty 6 and Dunbar 7 although obviously he's a well established panel member. Conor Foley has 4 starts I think.
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Replying To Viking66: "Have to aim high I guess. Last years u20 team were good and hopefully this year's will be better. Those lads will be 24 or 25 in 2027. As regards sweepers I agree its wingbacks jobs to cover back and midfielders to cover the wingbacks when they go forwards. But if you think any intercounty team has played 3 inside in many a year you are delusional. It hasn't happened in so long I can't actually remember the game. All the teams crowd the middle 3rd. Against Limerick we seemed to have 4 half forwards. 2 midfielders and 3 halfbacks with Rory playing centreback. I know that's not how they were meant to set up but that's the way it looked. Limerick only had 1 or 2 inside all game. They only had 1 goal chance and took that due to naive defending and generous refereeing, not on account of having 3 inside which they didnt. The other goal me or you would've scored when Fanning dropped it against Gillane and it fell just over the line.
If you want to see what desperate inside forward play looks like check out Dessie Hutchinsons stats on hurlerontheditch!!!!" I get aim high but to me it is unrealistic. If they said 10 years on the back of underage success, I would say yeah why not aim for it.
I get no team plays a straight 3 in any line but Wexford playing so few inside when a team holds the numerical advantage is music to every oppositions ears. It snuffs out any goal threat and reduces Wexford to long range shooting which ends up with umpires waving their arms rather than flags.
Teams are now finding Wexford so predictable to play and giving top teams space to put ball in to allows forwards time to get space, nullifying the sweeper. That sweeper would be better placed up stopping the ball coming in, instead of marking space.
Another thing, Wexford supporters seem to have a passive attitude to what is expected of the team and maybe that psyche will always have them in the middle group. That performance v Clare should have been slated by all who spent €18 to see it, it was an appalling performance from management and players. Instead Wexford supporters, media etc made excuses, oh sure we have injuries, etc. What was on show that day was nothing to do with injuries, but attitude. An u16 player would have made a better attempt at some of the hassling, closing down than Wexford seniors did that day.
The top teams in any sport go in to every game, wanting to win every game. Wexford seem to go in with a "this game isn't important, the next day matters more" mantra, almost trying to pretend to be more clever than the top teams. Winning is a habit and titles aren't so plentiful for half of the hurling counties to be able to turn their nose up at it.
At the end of the league, Wexford beat Westmeath and had a good display v half a Cork team. I don't know how Wexford supporters could find that acceptable.
A good championship will solve everything, and you can come back to me and say "this is what it is all about". I will be happy to see it. I wouldn't be confident with away trips to Dublin and Galway and needing a win in one of them (and if I hear "we don't need to win either to qualify", I rest my case.....)
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "I get aim high but to me it is unrealistic. If they said 10 years on the back of underage success, I would say yeah why not aim for it.
I get no team plays a straight 3 in any line but Wexford playing so few inside when a team holds the numerical advantage is music to every oppositions ears. It snuffs out any goal threat and reduces Wexford to long range shooting which ends up with umpires waving their arms rather than flags.
Teams are now finding Wexford so predictable to play and giving top teams space to put ball in to allows forwards time to get space, nullifying the sweeper. That sweeper would be better placed up stopping the ball coming in, instead of marking space.
Another thing, Wexford supporters seem to have a passive attitude to what is expected of the team and maybe that psyche will always have them in the middle group. That performance v Clare should have been slated by all who spent €18 to see it, it was an appalling performance from management and players. Instead Wexford supporters, media etc made excuses, oh sure we have injuries, etc. What was on show that day was nothing to do with injuries, but attitude. An u16 player would have made a better attempt at some of the hassling, closing down than Wexford seniors did that day.
The top teams in any sport go in to every game, wanting to win every game. Wexford seem to go in with a "this game isn't important, the next day matters more" mantra, almost trying to pretend to be more clever than the top teams. Winning is a habit and titles aren't so plentiful for half of the hurling counties to be able to turn their nose up at it.
At the end of the league, Wexford beat Westmeath and had a good display v half a Cork team. I don't know how Wexford supporters could find that acceptable.
A good championship will solve everything, and you can come back to me and say "this is what it is all about". I will be happy to see it. I wouldn't be confident with away trips to Dublin and Galway and needing a win in one of them (and if I hear "we don't need to win either to qualify", I rest my case.....)" Not making excuses but on the Cork point they seem to be developing very good depth, got a draw in Ennis yesterday with maybe even a weaker looking them than played us and Clare bar O'Donnell were pretty much full strength.
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Replying To TerribleFootwork: "Not making excuses but on the Cork point they seem to be developing very good depth, got a draw in Ennis yesterday with maybe even a weaker looking them than played us and Clare bar O'Donnell were pretty much full strength." Sorry I think Duggan didn't play too.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 20/03/2023 14:27:42
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "I get aim high but to me it is unrealistic. If they said 10 years on the back of underage success, I would say yeah why not aim for it.
I get no team plays a straight 3 in any line but Wexford playing so few inside when a team holds the numerical advantage is music to every oppositions ears. It snuffs out any goal threat and reduces Wexford to long range shooting which ends up with umpires waving their arms rather than flags.
Teams are now finding Wexford so predictable to play and giving top teams space to put ball in to allows forwards time to get space, nullifying the sweeper. That sweeper would be better placed up stopping the ball coming in, instead of marking space.
Another thing, Wexford supporters seem to have a passive attitude to what is expected of the team and maybe that psyche will always have them in the middle group. That performance v Clare should have been slated by all who spent €18 to see it, it was an appalling performance from management and players. Instead Wexford supporters, media etc made excuses, oh sure we have injuries, etc. What was on show that day was nothing to do with injuries, but attitude. An u16 player would have made a better attempt at some of the hassling, closing down than Wexford seniors did that day.
The top teams in any sport go in to every game, wanting to win every game. Wexford seem to go in with a "this game isn't important, the next day matters more" mantra, almost trying to pretend to be more clever than the top teams. Winning is a habit and titles aren't so plentiful for half of the hurling counties to be able to turn their nose up at it.
At the end of the league, Wexford beat Westmeath and had a good display v half a Cork team. I don't know how Wexford supporters could find that acceptable.
A good championship will solve everything, and you can come back to me and say "this is what it is all about". I will be happy to see it. I wouldn't be confident with away trips to Dublin and Galway and needing a win in one of them (and if I hear "we don't need to win either to qualify", I rest my case.....)" We will hopefully win both. If we have our full team out we should beat Dublin and might beat Galway. Agree the attitude against Clare wasn't acceptable. I don't remember anyone on this, on the management team or in the media saying it was.
As regards winning an AI by 2027 why not aim for that? We lost this years u20 Leinster final by a point to the team who 2 weeks later won the u20 AI title by a point. We have a good u20 team this year too. I've seen them play with my own eyes. What is the point not aiming to win an AI? What are you suggesting? That we aim to win to win Leinster by 2027? We should surely be aiming to win that this year!!!!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15639 - 20/03/2023 14:56:46
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