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Cian Byrne has already played for the Senior team a few times in the last couple of years.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15766 - 19/05/2023 07:11:50 2479555 Link 0 |
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We were outnumbered yes but not hugely and that was probably as large a travelling crowd to an underage match ive seen in 20 years. Plus they brought their voices and colour which added to it. 10 of those lads will get a run with our senior team and its up to them to make the most of it. Some are ready now and some aren't but don't forget this is U20 as opposed to U21 so they have time make the cut. I'll leave you there with the negativity - big crowd but not big enough, good players but not good enough, good results but lucky to get them. The reality is that in the last two years these lads have lost by a point to the eventual AI Champions and this year i would argue was better, getting to play 6 games a Leinster final appearance and big match experience. U20 is by far the most important age group to see what you have coming through and we seem to be in a decent shape. LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 412 - 19/05/2023 09:11:21 2479567 Link 0 |
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Watched it back and should've been a free out as the ref initially indicated but think the crowd influenced the linesman who had a word with the referee.
HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 19/05/2023 09:26:57 2479568 Link 0 |
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Spot on!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15766 - 19/05/2023 10:00:53 2479577 Link 0 |
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Still think there's too big of a jump physically from u20 to adult. It should go back to u21 Larry.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15766 - 19/05/2023 10:02:33 2479578 Link 0 |
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I know he has, but I'd be calling up for the next batch of games now
beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1492 - 19/05/2023 10:33:10 2479588 Link 0 |
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For sure. I meant by saying he's played already that it wouldn't be like trying to integrate a lad who hadn't.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15766 - 19/05/2023 10:54:13 2479595 Link 0 |
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Excuses. The first 10 of those apply to Offaly as well. Wexford had better days in the last 10 years than Offaly have had this millennium. Was it not a school night in Offaly as well? Offaly have had a hundred worse losses than Wexford had. Financial burden from all the other Wexford games nobody has gone to? That rut will get worse if players decide "why bother, nobody supports us anyway". I thought last night Wexford would have a massive support, it was in Carlow like not Cork or Thurles which are always bandied out as excuses for not going."]I was there and in Thurles last year . I m at a loss to why they don't travel. I do find sometimes I ask myself why I go I ve been going for too long to remember not every game but enough to know the difference between excuses and reasons . Think in last 10 years we ve seen some abject performances. One stands to mind most of all in Cork v clare qualifier 1/4 final was the closest I ever came to leaving a game at half time I thought we showed nothing and cared less I also then thought of the effort the lads put in over the year and said who am I to turn my back on my own . . 2nd half was better . Not everyone is die hard that's a fact every county has their die hards and the bandwagoners . I merely trying to get my head around it . I d guess the promotional aspect of this Offaly team have done a good job they ve certainly had great moments in last few years why would nt they draw a huge crowd with the success and future looking goid for this bunch Side note one player also won an all ireland football u20 couple years ago too with offaly and played last night too name eludes me The dual player Is dead in our intercounty set up after u13s"]Conor Murphy played for our u20 footballers last year."]I know he is a clubmate of yours, but I thought he struggled the last two games and would have been a better asset to the u20 footballers. On the dual player issue, Eoin Whelan played both codes in 2021, along with Darby Purcell who was on the extended panel Wednesday night. Niall Furlong played full-back for the minors Tuesday night (and looked good) and was a starter for the minor hurlers as well. In fact he played two championship games on a bank holiday Monday and Wednesday a few weeks ago when other lads aren't allowed play two different grades across a longer time-frame. Jack Hennessy was also a dual player for the minors last year. It may not be as prominent as it was, but its still a thing. Another encouraging aspect of our under-age set-ups lately is the number of non-traditional clubs being represented. Buffers Alley, Rathnure, Kilrush and Marshalstown supplied players for the minor footballers on Tuesday. Clongeen and Horeswood for our under-20s on Wednesday. I'd say it isn't too often that Fethard had the most representatives on any given Wexford team either. beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1492 - 19/05/2023 11:10:54 2479601 Link 0 |
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That's exactly what happened. It's a pity management didn't get the message into the back to hit the ball long into space and not get bottled up around our 45 and 65
Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 19/05/2023 11:30:48 2479603 Link 0 |
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On the dual player thing mentioned previously, Cormac Egan initially was only on the u20 Offaly football panel this year but joined the hurling panel after the footballers were knocked out. Based on this years u20 campaign and last years club football championship there's a case to be made that Cian Byrne is the best u20 player in Wexford in both codes. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 19/05/2023 11:32:18 2479604 Link 0 |
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No sign of him in the squad for Sunday unfortunately . Damien Reck is not named in the panel too. I can't see him being fully right for next week. Im hoping we can win our next 2 games without him and get through . That gives up a month to get ready for the preliminary quarter final against Carlow or Offaly
Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 19/05/2023 11:56:15 2479611 Link 0 |
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Running the ball out of defence effectively and consistently requires a high skill set. A misplaced/miss hit pass or handling error and it breaks down. Huge amount of practice required to master it and have confidence in doing it
HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 19/05/2023 12:17:52 2479619 Link 0 |
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Will probably be 1 or 2 changes to the team named, has been the case for nearly every game this year.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 19/05/2023 12:49:48 2479624 Link 0 |
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Excuses. The first 10 of those apply to Offaly as well. Wexford had better days in the last 10 years than Offaly have had this millennium. Was it not a school night in Offaly as well? Offaly have had a hundred worse losses than Wexford had. Financial burden from all the other Wexford games nobody has gone to? That rut will get worse if players decide "why bother, nobody supports us anyway". I thought last night Wexford would have a massive support, it was in Carlow like not Cork or Thurles which are always bandied out as excuses for not going."]I was there and in Thurles last year . I m at a loss to why they don't travel. I do find sometimes I ask myself why I go I ve been going for too long to remember not every game but enough to know the difference between excuses and reasons . Think in last 10 years we ve seen some abject performances. One stands to mind most of all in Cork v clare qualifier 1/4 final was the closest I ever came to leaving a game at half time I thought we showed nothing and cared less I also then thought of the effort the lads put in over the year and said who am I to turn my back on my own . . 2nd half was better . Not everyone is die hard that's a fact every county has their die hards and the bandwagoners . I merely trying to get my head around it . I d guess the promotional aspect of this Offaly team have done a good job they ve certainly had great moments in last few years why would nt they draw a huge crowd with the success and future looking goid for this bunch Side note one player also won an all ireland football u20 couple years ago too with offaly and played last night too name eludes me The dual player Is dead in our intercounty set up after u13s"]Conor Murphy played for our u20 footballers last year."]I know he is a clubmate of yours, but I thought he struggled the last two games and would have been a better asset to the u20 footballers. On the dual player issue, Eoin Whelan played both codes in 2021, along with Darby Purcell who was on the extended panel Wednesday night. Niall Furlong played full-back for the minors Tuesday night (and looked good) and was a starter for the minor hurlers as well. In fact he played two championship games on a bank holiday Monday and Wednesday a few weeks ago when other lads aren't allowed play two different grades across a longer time-frame. Jack Hennessy was also a dual player for the minors last year. It may not be as prominent as it was, but its still a thing. Another encouraging aspect of our under-age set-ups lately is the number of non-traditional clubs being represented. Buffers Alley, Rathnure, Kilrush and Marshalstown supplied players for the minor footballers on Tuesday. Clongeen and Horeswood for our under-20s on Wednesday. I'd say it isn't too often that Fethard had the most representatives on any given Wexford team either."]Not sure if it was nerves but he didn't look right Wednesday. I haven't been talking to him since. Thought he did what he was picked to do against Kilkenny, which was nullify their creative midfield threat. His man was scoreless while he was on the pitch and scored 2 after he was subbed off. In the Offaly game I thought their number 8 Spain was excellent. Another KK clubman and lightening fast like his clubmate Screeney. Not really the type of player that it suited him to mark. At the same time when they were winning all the ball around halfway during the 2nd half I thought Conor mightve helped the team by slowing that ball down if he was on the pitch. Offaly won all the 2nd ball and rucks and then broke forward, either getting scores or winning frees that Screeney scored. Of course we should've played more long ball in, especially after Keith Rossiter sent on Farrell instead of Dundon, but our lads played 14 men like you are coached to play against 14- keep possession and use the spare man. Think the Offaly manager, who obviously would know the usual way of playing against 14, countered it very well with the crowded midfield, and most importantly his lads played ferocious right up to the final whistle. Agree 100% about the representation of clubs and credit is due to all the management teams for looking at lads from non traditional clubs. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15766 - 19/05/2023 12:52:34 2479626 Link 0 |
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He was excellent for Fethard in the football championship in the games I saw him.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15766 - 19/05/2023 12:53:30 2479627 Link 0 |
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Offaly countered it well at both management and player level.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15766 - 19/05/2023 12:54:12 2479628 Link 0 |
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Excuses. The first 10 of those apply to Offaly as well. Wexford had better days in the last 10 years than Offaly have had this millennium. Was it not a school night in Offaly as well? Offaly have had a hundred worse losses than Wexford had. Financial burden from all the other Wexford games nobody has gone to? That rut will get worse if players decide "why bother, nobody supports us anyway". I thought last night Wexford would have a massive support, it was in Carlow like not Cork or Thurles which are always bandied out as excuses for not going."]I was there and in Thurles last year . I m at a loss to why they don't travel. I do find sometimes I ask myself why I go I ve been going for too long to remember not every game but enough to know the difference between excuses and reasons . Think in last 10 years we ve seen some abject performances. One stands to mind most of all in Cork v clare qualifier 1/4 final was the closest I ever came to leaving a game at half time I thought we showed nothing and cared less I also then thought of the effort the lads put in over the year and said who am I to turn my back on my own . . 2nd half was better . Not everyone is die hard that's a fact every county has their die hards and the bandwagoners . I merely trying to get my head around it . I d guess the promotional aspect of this Offaly team have done a good job they ve certainly had great moments in last few years why would nt they draw a huge crowd with the success and future looking goid for this bunch Side note one player also won an all ireland football u20 couple years ago too with offaly and played last night too name eludes me The dual player Is dead in our intercounty set up after u13s"]Conor Murphy played for our u20 footballers last year."]I know he is a clubmate of yours, but I thought he struggled the last two games and would have been a better asset to the u20 footballers. On the dual player issue, Eoin Whelan played both codes in 2021, along with Darby Purcell who was on the extended panel Wednesday night. Niall Furlong played full-back for the minors Tuesday night (and looked good) and was a starter for the minor hurlers as well. In fact he played two championship games on a bank holiday Monday and Wednesday a few weeks ago when other lads aren't allowed play two different grades across a longer time-frame. Jack Hennessy was also a dual player for the minors last year. It may not be as prominent as it was, but its still a thing. Another encouraging aspect of our under-age set-ups lately is the number of non-traditional clubs being represented. Buffers Alley, Rathnure, Kilrush and Marshalstown supplied players for the minor footballers on Tuesday. Clongeen and Horeswood for our under-20s on Wednesday. I'd say it isn't too often that Fethard had the most representatives on any given Wexford team either."]Not sure if it was nerves but he didn't look right Wednesday. I haven't been talking to him since. Thought he did what he was picked to do against Kilkenny, which was nullify their creative midfield threat. His man was scoreless while he was on the pitch and scored 2 after he was subbed off. In the Offaly game I thought their number 8 Spain was excellent. Another KK clubman and lightening fast like his clubmate Screeney. Not really the type of player that it suited him to mark. At the same time when they were winning all the ball around halfway during the 2nd half I thought Conor mightve helped the team by slowing that ball down if he was on the pitch. Offaly won all the 2nd ball and rucks and then broke forward, either getting scores or winning frees that Screeney scored. Of course we should've played more long ball in, especially after Keith Rossiter sent on Farrell instead of Dundon, but our lads played 14 men like you are coached to play against 14- keep possession and use the spare man. Think the Offaly manager, who obviously would know the usual way of playing against 14, countered it very well with the crowded midfield, and most importantly his lads played ferocious right up to the final whistle. Agree 100% about the representation of clubs and credit is due to all the management teams for looking at lads from non traditional clubs."]Posting this again in reply to Beano as its way too much to read with all the previous posts- Not sure if it was nerves but Conor Murphy didn't look right Wednesday. I haven't been talking to him since. Thought he did what he was picked to do against Kilkenny, which was nullify their creative midfield threat. His man was scoreless while he was on the pitch and scored 2 after he was subbed off. In the Offaly game I thought their number 8 Spain was excellent. Another KK clubman and lightening fast like his clubmate Screeney. Not really the type of player that it suited him to mark. At the same time when they were winning all the ball around halfway during the 2nd half I thought Conor mightve helped the team by slowing that ball down if he was on the pitch. Offaly won all the 2nd ball and rucks and then broke forward, either getting scores or winning frees that Screeney scored. Of course we should've played more long ball in, especially after Keith Rossiter sent on Farrell instead of Dundon, but our lads played 14 men like you are coached to play against 14- keep possession and use the spare man. Think the Offaly manager, who obviously would know the usual way of playing against 14, countered it very well with the crowded midfield, and most importantly his lads played ferocious right up to the final whistle. Agree 100% about the representation of clubs and credit is due to all the management teams for looking at lads from non traditional clubs. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15766 - 19/05/2023 12:56:51 2479631 Link 0 |
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Posting this again in reply to Beano as its way too much to read with all the previous posts- Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15766 - 19/05/2023 13:00:54 2479634 Link 0 |
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One more thing to add about Wednesday my 7 year old daughter went over to the Wexford team and all of them that she found signed her program next to their names, which was a sound thing to do for a little girl when you probably just wanted to get off the pitch. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15766 - 19/05/2023 13:21:44 2479643 Link 0 |
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Reck's injury frequency is a huge worry by now. Always seem to pick up some form of injury to impede his championship (never season ending yet hopefully). It's got to the stage where we should be managing his work-load in training (I believe he goes 100% in every session) and maybe even reviewing our medical procedure given the unusually high number of casualties we seem to have had this season. Some players are just injury prone unfortunately. Although, Chin has gone from an adonis to someone who picks up niggly injuries now too so you'd wonder were the players flogged too much under the celebrity manager? beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1492 - 19/05/2023 13:41:24 2479648 Link 0 |