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Hill 16 - Continued Bias In Ticket Allocation

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I'm posting this at the start of the Dublin - Kerry match. Why does the GAA continue to show such bias in how they allocate Hill 16 tickets? In effectively handing that end of the ground to Dublin it's continually creating an enormous advantage for the boys in blue as the hill creates an enormous wall of noise and is a well acknowledged source of intimidation for opposing teams - amateur players are ill equipped to cope with this, so balance in numbers would make things fairer. Galway want 50:50 allocation for the final, nothing more, nothing less. Just a bit of fairness. This bias has to stop.

togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 908 - 10/07/2022 15:43:12    2431061

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Replying To togoutlads:  "I'm posting this at the start of the Dublin - Kerry match. Why does the GAA continue to show such bias in how they allocate Hill 16 tickets? In effectively handing that end of the ground to Dublin it's continually creating an enormous advantage for the boys in blue as the hill creates an enormous wall of noise and is a well acknowledged source of intimidation for opposing teams - amateur players are ill equipped to cope with this, so balance in numbers would make things fairer. Galway want 50:50 allocation for the final, nothing more, nothing less. Just a bit of fairness. This bias has to stop."
Especially when GAA say it's a neutral ground.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2017 - 10/07/2022 16:29:03    2431089

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Replying To togoutlads:  "I'm posting this at the start of the Dublin - Kerry match. Why does the GAA continue to show such bias in how they allocate Hill 16 tickets? In effectively handing that end of the ground to Dublin it's continually creating an enormous advantage for the boys in blue as the hill creates an enormous wall of noise and is a well acknowledged source of intimidation for opposing teams - amateur players are ill equipped to cope with this, so balance in numbers would make things fairer. Galway want 50:50 allocation for the final, nothing more, nothing less. Just a bit of fairness. This bias has to stop."
Anybody can buy a Hill ticket no?

SimonstownBack (Meath) - Posts: 143 - 10/07/2022 18:03:10    2431120

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Replying To SimonstownBack:  "Anybody can buy a Hill ticket no?"
Nope. Much depends on county board and club allocations.

togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 908 - 10/07/2022 19:02:12    2431152

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Every county gets a 50/50 allocation for hill16. Dublin county board offer to swap stand tickets for hill tickets to whoever they are playimg against. Its always agreedto. If you want hill tickets contact your county board.

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 10/07/2022 19:22:21    2431157

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Replying To togoutlads:  "Nope. Much depends on county board and club allocations."
I've always gotten them through the club. Last year I got them on ticketmaster.

SimonstownBack (Meath) - Posts: 143 - 10/07/2022 20:19:39    2431179

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Replying To togoutlads:  "I'm posting this at the start of the Dublin - Kerry match. Why does the GAA continue to show such bias in how they allocate Hill 16 tickets? In effectively handing that end of the ground to Dublin it's continually creating an enormous advantage for the boys in blue as the hill creates an enormous wall of noise and is a well acknowledged source of intimidation for opposing teams - amateur players are ill equipped to cope with this, so balance in numbers would make things fairer. Galway want 50:50 allocation for the final, nothing more, nothing less. Just a bit of fairness. This bias has to stop."
Have you heard of Ticketmaster ffs.

Everyone has equal access to Hill tickets if they want them.

I thought the Mayo fans had put this nonsense to bed but alas not.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 11/07/2022 07:54:56    2431225

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Have you heard of Ticketmaster ffs.

Everyone has equal access to Hill tickets if they want them.

I thought the Mayo fans had put this nonsense to bed but alas not."
Buying tickets on Ticketmaster all year mate - football and hurling. You tell me how any team playing Dublin could flip this story and buy 95% of the tickets on the Hill? You think it's all through Ticketmaster?

togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 908 - 11/07/2022 11:31:50    2431313

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Replying To togoutlads:  "Buying tickets on Ticketmaster all year mate - football and hurling. You tell me how any team playing Dublin could flip this story and buy 95% of the tickets on the Hill? You think it's all through Ticketmaster?"
How do you think that Mayo fans managed to outnumber Dublin fans on the Hill on a couple of occasions in the past? If you want Hill tickets then ask your county board for them. There's no great conspiracy here. County boards swap tickets also and obviously there was huge demand in Dublin for tickets yesterday. If we'd been playing Mayo the Hill would have been a different colour.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 11/07/2022 12:17:27    2431338

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Have you heard of Ticketmaster ffs.

Everyone has equal access to Hill tickets if they want them.

I thought the Mayo fans had put this nonsense to bed but alas not."
The Hill looks better with some Green & Red in it. Also must say it great that both sets of supporters get along with no agro.

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 454 - 11/07/2022 13:42:27    2431379

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Replying To togoutlads:  "Buying tickets on Ticketmaster all year mate - football and hurling. You tell me how any team playing Dublin could flip this story and buy 95% of the tickets on the Hill? You think it's all through Ticketmaster?"
Same way Armagh supporters had the majority of tickets for the quarter final plus there's little demand for Hill 16 for matches if there are plenty of seats available. Anyways ye won't need to be thinking about where the noise is coming from on Sunday week, just where the posts are. The best of luck to Galway.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7364 - 11/07/2022 14:21:30    2431407

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Whatever about the tickets, i dont see why Dublin get to always do their warm up at the Hill 16 end of the field. There should be a toss of a coin for it and the winner chooses what end they warm up in. If the opposition choose to go to the Davin end then so be it.

Meridian (Westmeath) - Posts: 601 - 11/07/2022 15:10:23    2431438

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Replying To Meridian:  "Whatever about the tickets, i dont see why Dublin get to always do their warm up at the Hill 16 end of the field. There should be a toss of a coin for it and the winner chooses what end they warm up in. If the opposition choose to go to the Davin end then so be it."
I agree with you. It should be a coin toss but in fairness would it change any results? Unlikely. I think the issue of teams leaving the field on opposite sides is far more important

superdub (Dublin) - Posts: 392 - 11/07/2022 16:04:12    2431465

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Replying To superdub:  "I agree with you. It should be a coin toss but in fairness would it change any results? Unlikely. I think the issue of teams leaving the field on opposite sides is far more important"
superdub, its not about the result. The best team should win regardless. It would just stop the questions in regard to the Dublin bias from the GAA i.e. Dublin playing all their home games in Croke Park, Dublin fans always get Hill 16, Dublin always warm up at the Hill 16 end etc

This is the sort of stuff that annoys people and would be a very easy fix.

Meridian (Westmeath) - Posts: 601 - 12/07/2022 09:25:16    2431573

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"Hill 16 - Continued Bias In Ticket Allocation"
A reflection of the continued advantage of home advantage. Rural counties either win in a neutral venue or away from home. Galway had a good neutral win. Kerry had a tough away win. There will always be more respect for those who win without home advantage. It's just the way it is. Rural county All-Irelands carry more weight in gold.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7876 - 12/07/2022 09:47:34    2431576

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Replying To togoutlads:  "Buying tickets on Ticketmaster all year mate - football and hurling. You tell me how any team playing Dublin could flip this story and buy 95% of the tickets on the Hill? You think it's all through Ticketmaster?"
The vast majority of Hill tickets pre final are sold through Ticketmaster. Log in and buy one, there isn't some secret Dub code to put in. Mayo fans have shown that.

If you want a Hill ticket before the final, you go through Ticketmaster or request one through your club/county board. A lot of clubs in Dublin don't even request tickets before the final and let members just sort their own.

For a final it's different but again other counties have the exact same access to the Hill and some counties, Mayo and Tyrone recently have chosen to take plenty of Hill tickets.

You're complaining about an unfairness that doesn't exist.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 12/07/2022 09:58:45    2431580

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Replying To Joxer:  "How do you think that Mayo fans managed to outnumber Dublin fans on the Hill on a couple of occasions in the past? If you want Hill tickets then ask your county board for them. There's no great conspiracy here. County boards swap tickets also and obviously there was huge demand in Dublin for tickets yesterday. If we'd been playing Mayo the Hill would have been a different colour."
Yeah would agree with you,could always get hill 16 tickets if I wanted to but chose not to when playing Dublin.Showing my age now but always remember for Meath v Dublin games the hill would be mainly Dublin and the old canal end would be mainly Meath and the atmosphere would be cracking both ends trying to out sing each other.Maybe the gaa should make the Davin(canal end)the same price as the hill and give an end to each team and the atmosphere might cranked up a bit more.

Proudroyal (Meath) - Posts: 258 - 12/07/2022 10:06:36    2431583

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Replying To legendzxix:  ""Hill 16 - Continued Bias In Ticket Allocation"
A reflection of the continued advantage of home advantage. Rural counties either win in a neutral venue or away from home. Galway had a good neutral win. Kerry had a tough away win. There will always be more respect for those who win without home advantage. It's just the way it is. Rural county All-Irelands carry more weight in gold."
Not those counties qualifying out of a hurling province though.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 12/07/2022 10:14:53    2431586

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Replying To Joxer:  "Not those counties qualifying out of a hurling province though."
2 all Munster All-Ireland finals.
Tipperary twice All-Ireland semi-finalists.
Munster with 67% representation in the Final 16.
Munster with 50% representation in the quarter-finals.
Some province for one province!

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7876 - 12/07/2022 11:54:43    2431616

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Replying To legendzxix:  "2 all Munster All-Ireland finals.
Tipperary twice All-Ireland semi-finalists.
Munster with 67% representation in the Final 16.
Munster with 50% representation in the quarter-finals.
Some province for one province!"
Lovely hurling.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 12/07/2022 13:34:42    2431654

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