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An interesting situation in Cork now. Do they stick with 'inside the county' when the pickings seem quite scant? Or do they break tradition and go outside the county for a non-Cork man? Some may say that they'd never do that, but technically they have already; John Meyler is a Wexford man, a fact that delayed his appointment as Cork manager for years. Davy Fitz might get it. He's going well with the Cork camogie team and has undoubtedly used his time down there to make contact with important people. I'd love to see Davy being appointed. I always like to see Cork hurlers being beaten (not their footballers, though), and one thing that would make that even better is to see them being beaten with little bitter Davy at the helm. The look on Donal Og's face would be priceless too, if Davy is appointed before him. foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1925 - 04/07/2022 16:00:41 2429689 Link
Not sure Donal Og deserves it, what manager role has he had recently. CillTormoir (Galway) - Posts: 488 - 04/07/2022 17:08:10 2429711 Link
They should give it to Donal Og. It'd be a win win for them. Either he's a success or he fails and we won't have to hear him going on about it. oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 04/07/2022 17:50:38 2429721 Link
It would constitute a shock if Donal Og don't get it. However I think there are many long knives still down there for him. They threw the people who support him a bone by giving him involvement with the minors. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2665 - 04/07/2022 20:02:38 2429740 Link
Think they have made a good decision with pat ryan appointment..he has won with a lot of players under age and has a good record with sars in cork.. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2225 - 05/07/2022 11:42:06 2429816 Link
Replying To foreveryoung: "An interesting situation in Cork now. Do they stick with 'inside the county' when the pickings seem quite scant? Or do they break tradition and go outside the county for a non-Cork man? Some may say that they'd never do that, but technically they have already; John Meyler is a Wexford man, a fact that delayed his appointment as Cork manager for years. Davy Fitz might get it. He's going well with the Cork camogie team and has undoubtedly used his time down there to make contact with important people. I'd love to see Davy being appointed. I always like to see Cork hurlers being beaten (not their footballers, though), and one thing that would make that even better is to see them being beaten with little bitter Davy at the helm. The look on Donal Og's face would be priceless too, if Davy is appointed before him." Davys dedicated army of detractors always struck me as being far more bitter than he is. If he never wins another trophy I still think he can be proud of what he achieved as a hurling manager Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1720 - 05/07/2022 12:18:46 2429831 Link
Replying To Galway9801: "Davys dedicated army of detractors always struck me as being far more bitter than he is. If he never wins another trophy I still think he can be proud of what he achieved as a hurling manager" And also how many people have won all irelands as a player and manger. Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1913 - 05/07/2022 13:28:12 2429868 Link
Replying To Bon: "And also how many people have won all irelands as a player and manger." Good few…JBM. John Allen. Donal O' Grady. Babs Keating ,Brian Cody. Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 05/07/2022 14:17:09 2429884 Link
Replying To Bon: "And also how many people have won all irelands as a player and manger." Eamon Cregan won all Ireland playing with Limerick, and managed Offaly and Johnny Dooley to All Ireland win over his native county! Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 05/07/2022 14:28:43 2429890 Link
Replying To Rockies: "Good few…JBM. John Allen. Donal O' Grady. Babs Keating ,Brian Cody." Nicky English. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7360 - 05/07/2022 14:31:11 2429893 Link
Replying To Rockies: "Good few…JBM. John Allen. Donal O' Grady. Babs Keating ,Brian Cody." As a percentage its only a tiny fraction of 1%,and it gets even smaller when you consider he did it without the luxury of being from kilkenny, Cork or tipp. Anyways, back to topic. I'm glad Cork decided to stay within. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1720 - 05/07/2022 14:33:10 2429896 Link
Replying To Galway9801: "As a percentage its only a tiny fraction of 1%,and it gets even smaller when you consider he did it without the luxury of being from kilkenny, Cork or tipp. Anyways, back to topic. I'm glad Cork decided to stay within." Yes, I agree. Pat Ryan will blood some younger players, and will most likely bring Wayne Sherlock on board . Both are all Ireland winners,and both involved in recent underage successes! Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 05/07/2022 14:57:25 2429901 Link
Replying To Galway9801: "As a percentage its only a tiny fraction of 1%,and it gets even smaller when you consider he did it without the luxury of being from kilkenny, Cork or tipp. Anyways, back to topic. I'm glad Cork decided to stay within." Football …Jim Gavin, Mick O' Dwyer, Jim McGuinness (substitute in 1992), Conor Counihan, Páidí Ó Sé, Billy Morgan… probably long list of All Ireland winners playing and managing!!! Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 05/07/2022 15:39:27 2429917 Link
Pat Ryan with Wayne Sherlock and Ben O' Connor, all of whom were associated with recent winning underage teams, are popular choices on Leeside! Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 05/07/2022 16:24:47 2429929 Link
Replying To Rockies: "Good few…JBM. John Allen. Donal O' Grady. Babs Keating ,Brian Cody." You probably only need your second hand. Did Kevin Heffernan in football ? Mick O'Dwyer did. Paidi ? John Keane I believe in 1948 and was involved in the 1959 team. They were not called managers then. Davy like him or dislike him deserves honourable mention. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2665 - 05/07/2022 16:35:08 2429932 Link
Replying To Rockies: "Football …Jim Gavin, Mick O' Dwyer, Jim McGuinness (substitute in 1992), Conor Counihan, Páidí Ó Sé, Billy Morgan… probably long list of All Ireland winners playing and managing!!!" For Dublin, Dessie, Gavin, Gillers, Pat O'Neil, Heffo, Tony Hanahoe... In fact, in my lifetime there's never been a winning manager who didn't also win as a player. Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 05/07/2022 16:45:00 2429934 Link
Replying To Rockies: "Football …Jim Gavin, Mick O' Dwyer, Jim McGuinness (substitute in 1992), Conor Counihan, Páidí Ó Sé, Billy Morgan… probably long list of All Ireland winners playing and managing!!!" A load have done it in football. Actually all the winning managers since 2010 have also won medals as players (except Fergal Logan). Would Heffo have been the first to do it in 1974? I don't think the role of manager really existed much before that. I know that in 1973 Limerick had 5 selectors, one of whom was Jackie Power who had won AI titles in 1936 and '40 with Limerick, but there was no real main man as manager. foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1925 - 05/07/2022 16:45:22 2429935 Link
Replying To Canuck: "You probably only need your second hand. Did Kevin Heffernan in football ? Mick O'Dwyer did. Paidi ? John Keane I believe in 1948 and was involved in the 1959 team. They were not called managers then. Davy like him or dislike him deserves honourable mention." Kevin Heffernan definitely! All Ireland winner and managed dubs in 1970's. Most famous Cork manager was undoubtedly Jim "Tough" Barry who managed successful Cork teams for decades all the way up to 1966.Also managed Cork in 1945 football win,and managed Limerick hurlers to all Ireland hurling success in 1934. Never played himself, but he quoted " You don't need to be a greyhound to manage greyhound's" Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 05/07/2022 16:53:26 2429941 Link
Johnny Clifford All Ireland winner playing and managing Cork, famously said "Cork hurlers are like mushrooms and spring up overnight " . Let's hope that this prophecy holds true over next decade, and Cork dominate hurling again! Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 05/07/2022 17:16:51 2429956 Link
Davy Fitz, I don't believe was ever seriously considered. He is too controversial and divisive. Donal Óg Cusack… similar. Pat Ryan is a good choice, and will bring a seamless progression from underage ranks. Dual players like Brian Hayes may declare for hurlers , and if Ryan brings Sherlock and O' Connor on board, we may have a winning ticket! Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 05/07/2022 18:52:55 2429965 Link