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Replying To galwayford:  "Nationalists are the majority now. North and South."
Absolutely but....a lot of people assume they that most of these would vote for a United Ireland

conordee (Galway) - Posts: 438 - 03/10/2023 20:59:02    2506860

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Any chance of getting back to talking about rugby and soccer and whatever other sports here??????"
As I Man Utd fan I must say Man Utd are brutal, toxic culture in that squad, good manager but too many bad eggs to look after.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1505 - 03/10/2023 21:56:29    2506870

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "As I Man Utd fan I must say Man Utd are brutal, toxic culture in that squad, good manager but too many bad eggs to look after."
Man Utd are turning into a laughing stock, how many managers have they gone through since Ferguson? how much money have they wasted on buying useless players? The current goalkeeper is the worst they have ever had far as I remember,
maybe they need Keano back in there to make a team of them again, all they are now is disjointed journeymen,
that new young striker looks the real deal, they need to get rid off a lot of dead weight though.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2670 - 04/10/2023 11:54:40    2506912

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Man Utd are turning into a laughing stock, how many managers have they gone through since Ferguson? how much money have they wasted on buying useless players? The current goalkeeper is the worst they have ever had far as I remember,
maybe they need Keano back in there to make a team of them again, all they are now is disjointed journeymen,
that new young striker looks the real deal, they need to get rid off a lot of dead weight though."
Yeah they've been in disarray for years now. I'm not a Utd fan, but I'd agree with Neville that the problems stem from the top. There doesn't seem to be much direction, Old Trafford is in a state of disrepair and they're transfer/squad strategy is very puzzling.

e.g. Giving a 5 year contract to Casemiro on massive wages. He still shows glimpses of his quality but his best days are long gone. Ditto Varane.

Rashford cannot/does not want to play the pressing game that ten Hag wants but he starts every game.
Martial seems to have been there forever and has never really cut it, but he's still in the squad.
After all they've spent, and ok they've had a few injuries, they recently ended up with Harry Maguire (not good enough) and Jonny Evans (who was not deemed good enough 5 years ago) in central defence away to Arsenal.

There's the Sancho situation - who knows what's going on there?
Greenwood? They're faffed around there for weeks when it was abundantly obvious what should have been done with that buck.

The only good thing they've done recently is signed a very promising number 9. There aren't too many quality out and out strikers out there, but he looks like he could be the real deal.

I think they'd need this takeover, and then go out and get the best football club administrators they can get. Decide on what identity they want to pursue and sign appropriate young hungry players accordingly. Not fading "superstars" like Casemiro, Varane and Ronaldo.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9023 - 04/10/2023 12:42:44    2506924

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I always said Man Utd would enter the doldrums when Ferguson retired. Don't see it ending anytime soon.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11216 - 04/10/2023 13:21:15    2506930

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "As I Man Utd fan I must say Man Utd are brutal, toxic culture in that squad, good manager but too many bad eggs to look after."
When players keep getting the sinful amount of money week in and week out, do they really care if they win matches or not? Bit of luck money matters will bring soccer in the the ground. Best thing about soccer at the minute is the decisions of VAR.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 1987 - 04/10/2023 14:08:58    2506939

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Replying To browncows:  "Do you know your own history/-obviously not. A lot of folk lost their lives in 1916 and in the civil war. Do you know that in the troubles in the North of our country more civilians were killed by crown forces /loyalists. That is a fact that is hidden by our media and some well known newspapers. The first people killed in the troubles was by loyalists. Why can we not release all the documents relating to the Belturbet/Dublin/Monaghan bombings. Documents were and still are hidden about the showband massacre. I'm totally against all killings but you need to get your facts correct!"
Why in all seriousness are you directing this at me?

You obviously cannot even understand why I am talking about. As for knowing my own history, well.... i won't go there. some of us were part of it.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2414 - 04/10/2023 16:21:31    2506952

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Replying To browncows:  "Do you know your own history/-obviously not. A lot of folk lost their lives in 1916 and in the civil war. Do you know that in the troubles in the North of our country more civilians were killed by crown forces /loyalists. That is a fact that is hidden by our media and some well known newspapers. The first people killed in the troubles was by loyalists. Why can we not release all the documents relating to the Belturbet/Dublin/Monaghan bombings. Documents were and still are hidden about the showband massacre. I'm totally against all killings but you need to get your facts correct!"
And if you want get all 1916 and history. the only fighting done in your own county was by north county Dubs of the 5th Battalion at Ashebourne under the command of a Kerryman.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2414 - 04/10/2023 16:36:15    2506953

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Why in all seriousness are you directing this at me?

You obviously cannot even understand why I am talking about. As for knowing my own history, well.... i won't go there. some of us were part of it."
Not really non GAA but I see Casement might be getting built at last....

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1280 - 04/10/2023 16:47:24    2506955

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Not really non GAA but I see Casement might be getting built at last...."
Brexit Britain has just canned a huge portion of its largest ever infrastructure project.
The NHS is hemorrhaging money.
And there's already talk of the Irish government being expected to pay some of the Casement redevelopment costs.

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the Belfast games at EURO 2028 have to be moved to Windsor Park or Ravenhill.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4915 - 04/10/2023 19:57:06    2506978

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Replying To Saynothing:  "When players keep getting the sinful amount of money week in and week out, do they really care if they win matches or not? Bit of luck money matters will bring soccer in the the ground. Best thing about soccer at the minute is the decisions of VAR."
VAR is some joke alright, just watching the Newcastle game, play must be stopped for 5 mins waiting for a decision on the 2nd goal.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2670 - 04/10/2023 20:44:38    2506980

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Brexit Britain has just canned a huge portion of its largest ever infrastructure project.
The NHS is hemorrhaging money.
And there's already talk of the Irish government being expected to pay some of the Casement redevelopment costs.

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the Belfast games at EURO 2028 have to be moved to Windsor Park or Ravenhill."
They can't as those 2 places haven't the capacity requires, 30k.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1280 - 04/10/2023 23:34:53    2506995

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "VAR is some joke alright, just watching the Newcastle game, play must be stopped for 5 mins waiting for a decision on the 2nd goal."
I don't think VAR is the issue. It's some of the incompetent officials who don't appear to have an ounce of cop-on that's the problem. The technology works. I'm a Newcastle fan and I was happy enough at the delay once they got right. It was very marginal but you could see that once they brought up the lines, Bruno was just about onside and the goal stood. Maybe it takes a wee while for the tech to generate the lines or whatever, but if the officials know what they're at (like last night) then I think it works well.

The one at the weekend was just laughable. Kevin Doyle summed it up well. Never mind all the BS communications and protocol. Just use common sense. Was it offside? No. Award the goal. I know they're under a bit of pressure while they're reviewing, but just take a breath, look at what you're watching and give the obvious answer. Klopp calling for a replay is a joke too and he knows it. Just adding to the pressure on the officials. I'd say he's hoping that any marginal calls in Liverpool's next big games will go his way.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9023 - 05/10/2023 09:37:54    2507008

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "I don't think VAR is the issue. It's some of the incompetent officials who don't appear to have an ounce of cop-on that's the problem. The technology works. I'm a Newcastle fan and I was happy enough at the delay once they got right. It was very marginal but you could see that once they brought up the lines, Bruno was just about onside and the goal stood. Maybe it takes a wee while for the tech to generate the lines or whatever, but if the officials know what they're at (like last night) then I think it works well.

The one at the weekend was just laughable. Kevin Doyle summed it up well. Never mind all the BS communications and protocol. Just use common sense. Was it offside? No. Award the goal. I know they're under a bit of pressure while they're reviewing, but just take a breath, look at what you're watching and give the obvious answer. Klopp calling for a replay is a joke too and he knows it. Just adding to the pressure on the officials. I'd say he's hoping that any marginal calls in Liverpool's next big games will go his way."
Some night for Newcastle, they played with bravery and deserved their great win, 90% perspiration 10% inspiration, their 4th goal was some cracker of a goal.
Top soccer now though has become a prostitute plaything for the mega rich, the Newcastle fans are over the moon with it all but you have to see it for what it is.
Criticising VAR it's obviously the humans making the decisions we are criticising, they need to speed it up once they have the info they need, never mind all the bs just was it offside or a deliberate handball etc or not.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2670 - 05/10/2023 10:50:03    2507019

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Some night for Newcastle, they played with bravery and deserved their great win, 90% perspiration 10% inspiration, their 4th goal was some cracker of a goal.
Top soccer now though has become a prostitute plaything for the mega rich, the Newcastle fans are over the moon with it all but you have to see it for what it is.
Criticising VAR it's obviously the humans making the decisions we are criticising, they need to speed it up once they have the info they need, never mind all the bs just was it offside or a deliberate handball etc or not."
Yeah I'm conflicted. Obviously last night would have been impossible without the Saudi takeover, even taking the excellent coaching of Eddie Howe into account and the job he's done with previously ridiculed players like Joelinton, Schar, Almiron, Longstaff etc. It is undoubtedly a sports-washing project, and last night had the added bonus of a middle finger salute to the Qatari-owned PSG, whom politically the Saudis have been at loggerheads with in recent times.

The simple facts are though, whilst the Geordie faithful will acknowledge the very questionable human rights issue in Saudi Arabia, deep down they simply don't care. Out of sight, out of mind so long as their team is winning. I'm not saying that's right, it's just the way it is. And you can be sure if it was Man Utd or any other club it'd be the same. It might be different in Germany where the 50+1 rule stipulates that 50% of the voting shares in the commercial companies which operate most Bundesliga clubs' professional football teams remain in the hands of the members of the parent clubs. Bayern Munich fans for example have been vociferous in their oppostion to any sort of commercial agreements involving Qatar. But in England, where money is God, awkward things like human rights concernds are swiftly brushed under the carpet so long as the golden goose PL is going from strength to strength.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9023 - 05/10/2023 11:09:31    2507024

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Saudis or no Saudis, will Newcastle ever win a trophy again? And getting relegated to come back up with a cup doesn't count of course. Newcastle Utd are to silverware what Mayo are to Sam.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3358 - 05/10/2023 12:05:20    2507033

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Yeah I'm conflicted. Obviously last night would have been impossible without the Saudi takeover, even taking the excellent coaching of Eddie Howe into account and the job he's done with previously ridiculed players like Joelinton, Schar, Almiron, Longstaff etc. It is undoubtedly a sports-washing project, and last night had the added bonus of a middle finger salute to the Qatari-owned PSG, whom politically the Saudis have been at loggerheads with in recent times.

The simple facts are though, whilst the Geordie faithful will acknowledge the very questionable human rights issue in Saudi Arabia, deep down they simply don't care. Out of sight, out of mind so long as their team is winning. I'm not saying that's right, it's just the way it is. And you can be sure if it was Man Utd or any other club it'd be the same. It might be different in Germany where the 50+1 rule stipulates that 50% of the voting shares in the commercial companies which operate most Bundesliga clubs' professional football teams remain in the hands of the members of the parent clubs. Bayern Munich fans for example have been vociferous in their oppostion to any sort of commercial agreements involving Qatar. But in England, where money is God, awkward things like human rights concernds are swiftly brushed under the carpet so long as the golden goose PL is going from strength to strength."
I would say its hard for them to care when their own government and the other leaders in the fee world see nothing wrong with doing business with the country. Should sport stand for something else? Credit to the GAA for eventually understanding that the acceptance of commercial sponsorship from certain sectors did not work alongside their Purpose, Vision and Values. I don't think they have every got the credit they deserve in this respect.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1771 - 05/10/2023 12:29:33    2507037

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Saudis or no Saudis, will Newcastle ever win a trophy again? And getting relegated to come back up with a cup doesn't count of course. Newcastle Utd are to silverware what Mayo are to Sam."
I don't think they're far away, maybe not this season but with the financial clout they have they'll keep improving the squad, and eventually they will win something. They were very close last season, losing the Carabao Cup when the occasion seemed to get to them more than anything. It wasn't like Man Utd overwhelmed them as they are no world beaters that's for sure.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9023 - 05/10/2023 13:37:18    2507048

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Replying To zinny:  "I would say its hard for them to care when their own government and the other leaders in the fee world see nothing wrong with doing business with the country. Should sport stand for something else? Credit to the GAA for eventually understanding that the acceptance of commercial sponsorship from certain sectors did not work alongside their Purpose, Vision and Values. I don't think they have every got the credit they deserve in this respect."
This is it. I see lots of football journalists clutching their pearls and almost chastising Newcastle fans for continuing to support their club. The Tory government bend over backwards to do business with Saudi Arabia. Aren't we all a small bit complicit in enabling the Saudi regime with our consumption of their oil?

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9023 - 05/10/2023 13:40:26    2507050

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Galway Utd play Bohs in FAI cup semi final on Saturday. Match on RTE at 2.30pm.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2508 - 05/10/2023 13:41:47    2507054

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