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Nationalists are the majority in N.I now. Surely majority rules. But we all know that is not the case. Irish elites have always fawned all over the Unionists and encouraged them to lord it over theN.I Catholics.
galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2585 - 01/10/2023 16:53:18 2506463 Link 2 |
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Good God .... where would you even begin like? No wonder Shinners have pulled wool over so many peoples eyes.
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3275 - 01/10/2023 17:54:02 2506476 Link 0 |
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What can be defined as a sport then Its a sport with savage athletes who are realistically good at what they do. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3695 - 01/10/2023 19:43:42 2506496 Link 0 |
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so much wrong with this. where to start... KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3695 - 01/10/2023 20:55:20 2506513 Link 2 |
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In response to KillingFields wondering where even to start in replying to this one, I'll just concentrate on the first sentence or two. Don't know where you get the idea that "Nationalists are in the majority". Even if you take a simple theory of "Catholic = Nationalist" and "Protestant = Unionist", then you still don't have a majority. According to Northern Ireland Census 2021: Catholic - 42.3% of population Protestant (i.e. Presbyterian/Church of Ireland/Methodist/"other Christian" combined) - 37.3% Other religion - 1.3% No religion - The remainder There may be more Catholics than Protestants, but there's still not a majority. Do you understand the difference between the two things? Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2648 - 01/10/2023 22:48:32 2506528 Link 1 |
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Lowry's celebrations like a corner back winning a free another highlight.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 01/10/2023 22:54:07 2506530 Link 0 |
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Huh.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8208 - 02/10/2023 09:17:25 2506549 Link 3 |
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Lowry showed some serious class in the short game area there, to reel in Spieth for a half, after the US player made 6 birdies and an eagle in the round. Was 'interesting' that Lowry got a seemingly very playable lie in the cabbage at 15th to work his magic, while Spieth 'unluckily' seemed to find a horrendous lie to the left of 16th. The fans are 'key' indeed. Biffos on the grassy knolls perhaps! Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3911 - 02/10/2023 10:51:12 2506567 Link 0 |
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People have been sold a pup on the "border poll." There was one in 1973 and the Provies were out firing shots at the peelers manning the polling stations. Now they are begging for one even though it will be beaten if ever held. And it won't be any time soon. A lot of people lost their lives for something they could have given up for 50 years ago. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3275 - 02/10/2023 13:08:46 2506621 Link 1 |
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Nationalists are the majority now. North and South.
galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2585 - 02/10/2023 13:38:09 2506625 Link 1 |
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1973 was a different world and I dont see how advocating for a border poll (or anything) is begging. Time is not on the Pro Union side, the Catholic/Nationalist population has only recently passed 50% of voters and they have a significant majority under the voting age. In every referendum there is always the undecided who will either abstain or vote. What is clear a UI of sorts is on the cards and we better prepare for it.
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4946 - 02/10/2023 14:06:51 2506635 Link 4 |
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Always have been! That was the whole point of Partition and is the whole point of Good Friday Agreement to make that majority dependent on a majority in the north. A majority that does not, and will not exist.
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3275 - 02/10/2023 14:10:07 2506638 Link 0 |
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The nationalist vote is not over 50% Where are getting this? The combined nationalist vote - SF/SDLP/Aontú and at stretch PBP is around 41%. It has barely changed in 25 years. Indeed, it has been higher in some elections. 20% of Catholics support the union. So it is not clear at all that there will be a united Ireland. There would be if it was 32 county vote but hardly anyone is calling for that including the "republicans." BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3275 - 02/10/2023 15:55:38 2506661 Link 3 |
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Why are you so anti a united Ireland Barney? surely every Irishman worthy of the name wants their country united and free?
Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3066 - 02/10/2023 19:53:37 2506693 Link 1 |
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I am not against a united Ireland. Very much the opposite. I am pointing out that people are claiming that it is inevitable based on not understanding the basic facts of the situation. Believing that a united Ireland is coming soon through a border poll is utterly delusional. And meant to be on the part of one party that has accepted everything it was set up to oppose. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3275 - 03/10/2023 08:06:46 2506714 Link 2 |
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Any chance of getting back to talking about rugby and soccer and whatever other sports here?????? Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2648 - 03/10/2023 09:10:34 2506726 Link 3 |
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Yeah, well as I was saying, I don't believe that Yanks would tolerate the amount of time it takes to set and reset and reset scrums, or the amount of time that gets bled off the clock at this caper........if we need to 'sell' RWC to the Americans that is.......someone suggested we did.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3911 - 03/10/2023 11:57:49 2506772 Link 0 |
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You mean like NFL where a game that consists of four 15m quarters takes 4 hours to play? I don't think scrum resets would put them off too much.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4734 - 03/10/2023 13:39:45 2506795 Link 3 |
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I'm with Joxer on this one. It's not like the Americans aren't used to frequent and lengthy stoppages during play. American Football is the example already given. Major League Baseball is another one. They introduced a 'pitching clock' this year to cut down the amount of time a game needs, and average time came back from something like 3hrs 15mins to 2hrs 45mins....but a pitcher still has up to 20 seconds for each pitch. And there are far more pitches in any baseball game than there are scrum resets in a rugby match. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2648 - 03/10/2023 14:17:48 2506805 Link 0 |
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Do you know your own history/-obviously not. A lot of folk lost their lives in 1916 and in the civil war. Do you know that in the troubles in the North of our country more civilians were killed by crown forces /loyalists. That is a fact that is hidden by our media and some well known newspapers. The first people killed in the troubles was by loyalists. Why can we not release all the documents relating to the Belturbet/Dublin/Monaghan bombings. Documents were and still are hidden about the showband massacre. I'm totally against all killings but you need to get your facts correct!
browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 03/10/2023 19:19:29 2506852 Link 4 |