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Replying To Saynothing:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "This is a 'Non-Gaa Forum' topic."
You worry about your so called Royals being on their way out."
My Royals?

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2447 - 08/01/2023 20:54:43    2451623

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Brits fail to launch satellite's into space. Would it be possible it hit the ball Kane took his penalty with?

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2006 - 10/01/2023 08:50:35    2451792

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Brits fail to launch satellite's into space. Would it be possible it hit the ball Kane took his penalty with?"
Those sneaky Brits up to no good again.

Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 782 - 10/01/2023 09:38:56    2451802

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Brits fail to launch satellite's into space. Would it be possible it hit the ball Kane took his penalty with?"
Pretty unlikely if we're honest

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12116 - 10/01/2023 12:44:13    2451844

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Just got the electricity bill in after Christmas..

Best of luck everyone

Extraordinary swindle going on

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 11/01/2023 12:22:53    2452019

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Just got the electricity bill in after Christmas..

Best of luck everyone

Extraordinary swindle going on"
Spot on Jim obviously. Nearly double the price. Even though less units used than the same period last year. How much electricity do the smart meters use themselves? Just got one 2 months ago.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11734 - 11/01/2023 12:55:12    2452026

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Just got the electricity bill in after Christmas..

Best of luck everyone

Extraordinary swindle going on"
I alluded to that in post before Christmas, unbelievable stuff.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 11/01/2023 13:02:10    2452030

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Not sure how much it matters but have any of you submitted your actual electricty readings? If you don't, they will charge you based on an estimation which tends to be higher than actual readings as far as I know? It balances out over the year whenever someone actually comes to your house to take the reading, but if you're like me and strapped after Christmas, might be worth getting your actual readings into your provider!

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9116 - 12/01/2023 11:36:50    2452155

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Not sure how much it matters but have any of you submitted your actual electricty readings? If you don't, they will charge you based on an estimation which tends to be higher than actual readings as far as I know? It balances out over the year whenever someone actually comes to your house to take the reading, but if you're like me and strapped after Christmas, might be worth getting your actual readings into your provider!"
I've one of these new smart meters the last 2 months. I still don't know how many units it uses itself.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11734 - 12/01/2023 12:50:09    2452172

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Replying To Viking66:  "I've one of these new smart meters the last 2 months. I still don't know how many units it uses itself."
I don't see the benefits. Less control anyone outside your home has over what happens in it the better as far as I'm concerned! There are already serious discussions about imposing limits on people's use of heating and electricity without their consent. For climate reasons of course!

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2524 - 12/01/2023 13:26:27    2452181

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Not sure how much it matters but have any of you submitted your actual electricty readings? If you don't, they will charge you based on an estimation which tends to be higher than actual readings as far as I know? It balances out over the year whenever someone actually comes to your house to take the reading, but if you're like me and strapped after Christmas, might be worth getting your actual readings into your provider!"
Nobody comes out to read the smart meters, obviously that's the point of them, most people I know that have the new smart meters reckon they are getting higher bills now, we know the unit price has increased dramatically but it could be possible these things aren't giving a correct reading either or 'running fast'
I'm sure they are well set up and calibrated so as to not 'run slow' anyway.
I see another FG junior minister resigned today,2nd in 6 months from the same office,
the 'party of law and order' is now the 'party of corruption' these fellas have an awful habit of forgetting how many houses they have,
one law for the insiders and throw the book at the wee man.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2739 - 12/01/2023 13:28:10    2452182

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Not sure how much it matters but have any of you submitted your actual electricty readings? If you don't, they will charge you based on an estimation which tends to be higher than actual readings as far as I know? It balances out over the year whenever someone actually comes to your house to take the reading, but if you're like me and strapped after Christmas, might be worth getting your actual readings into your provider!"
Thanks Lockjaw

I'm one of them nerds that does that once a month to save the messing.

I just said feck it this Christmas, didn't want to Grinch it by telling the kids to turn off the Christmas lights every two seconds.. let them enjoy it and with peace of mind

But listen, where are we going with all this lark at the minute.

Strange days, with plenty more to come.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 12/01/2023 14:33:03    2452196

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Replying To Viking66:  "Spot on Jim obviously. Nearly double the price. Even though less units used than the same period last year. How much electricity do the smart meters use themselves? Just got one 2 months ago."
The smart meter should not use very much additional electricity. If you have a smart meter you should consider the following;

1. Check out with your supplier what tariff you are on. (Check your most recent bill). One of the advantages of a smart meter is that the supplier can offer different tariffs to customers. For example some suppliers make not want you to use electricity at busy periods (5.00 - 7.00pm etc) and may offer better rates at off -peak hours. This might be attractive if you can heat your water at night or have some old storage heaters etc.

2. Make sure that you are on a tariff that suits your needs rather that the supplier.

3. Check out the tariff rates from other suppliers and change your supplier if they offer better rates. Be prepared to wait a while on the phone. Some information may be available on-line. Do your homework before you ring: check your bill and know what your supplier is charging per unit at various times.

4. If you already have a smart meter you may not have to phone in your reading. That is one of the advantages of the smart meter as far as I know (not 100% on this one). Not great news for the existing meter readers

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 494 - 12/01/2023 15:03:31    2452204

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Something that's not pointed out is that you have the right to refuse the smart meter, that way the meter reader keeps their job.
I think if I had to do it again I'd refuse to have it installed. I'm hearing now from people who done just that, like most of these things it's for the suppliers benefit and not the consumers, though they try and spin it as an advantage for the consumer.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2739 - 12/01/2023 15:35:26    2452219

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "The smart meter should not use very much additional electricity. If you have a smart meter you should consider the following;

1. Check out with your supplier what tariff you are on. (Check your most recent bill). One of the advantages of a smart meter is that the supplier can offer different tariffs to customers. For example some suppliers make not want you to use electricity at busy periods (5.00 - 7.00pm etc) and may offer better rates at off -peak hours. This might be attractive if you can heat your water at night or have some old storage heaters etc.

2. Make sure that you are on a tariff that suits your needs rather that the supplier.

3. Check out the tariff rates from other suppliers and change your supplier if they offer better rates. Be prepared to wait a while on the phone. Some information may be available on-line. Do your homework before you ring: check your bill and know what your supplier is charging per unit at various times.

4. If you already have a smart meter you may not have to phone in your reading. That is one of the advantages of the smart meter as far as I know (not 100% on this one). Not great news for the existing meter readers"
Thanks. 4 small kids inside and an insomniac wife so guess it is what it is!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11734 - 12/01/2023 17:00:04    2452236

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Thanks Lockjaw

I'm one of them nerds that does that once a month to save the messing.

I just said feck it this Christmas, didn't want to Grinch it by telling the kids to turn off the Christmas lights every two seconds.. let them enjoy it and with peace of mind

But listen, where are we going with all this lark at the minute.

Strange days, with plenty more to come."
You're right lad. I'm no economist and I'm not a conspiracy nut either. There are more enlightened and intelligent people than me on these boards who could give an explanation. But this morning there is a news article on the RTE website which alludes to the fact that through a complicated pricing system, the price of gas determines the price of electricity.

Wholesale prices have fallen since their peak last August and are now actually lower than what they were before Russia invaded Ukraine. Because of the relatively mild winter across Europe, there has been a less than anticipated demand for gas. So if there's less demand wholesale price goes down.

Apparently energy companies purchase quantities of gas at different times and at different prices in order to "hedge" themselves against future potential geopolitical incidents which can dramatically affect the cost of gas. So just because gas today costs £1.70 per therm (it was as high as £8 per therm last August) it doesn't automatically follow that our gas and electricity prices will fall accordingly.

But there's no doubt about it, even with the explanation above there has to be price gouging going on. You only have to see the astronomical profits these energy companies are making. As ever, it's the regular Joe feeling the pinch with these things.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9116 - 13/01/2023 09:01:15    2452270

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Something that's not pointed out is that you have the right to refuse the smart meter, that way the meter reader keeps their job.
I think if I had to do it again I'd refuse to have it installed. I'm hearing now from people who done just that, like most of these things it's for the suppliers benefit and not the consumers, though they try and spin it as an advantage for the consumer."
Indeed. A good rule of thumb is that if a company wants you to do something, it is for their benefit not your own. We refused one and judging by the lack of activity hereabouts by the contractor so did a lot of people.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2524 - 13/01/2023 09:34:38    2452277

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The smart meter automatically submits a meter reading. You are not obliged to join a plan. I had a meter installed last Autumn, and I get periodic reminders from ESB to join a plan.
The concept was not fully explained in all detail when smart meters were being promoted.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1735 - 13/01/2023 10:32:15    2452283

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Replying To thelongridge:  "The smart meter automatically submits a meter reading. You are not obliged to join a plan. I had a meter installed last Autumn, and I get periodic reminders from ESB to join a plan.
The concept was not fully explained in all detail when smart meters were being promoted."
Nor did they refer to the suggestions that people who it is decided are using electricity in a climate hostile manner can be subject to tariffs or even penalties on use!

The whole thing about encouraging people to use electricity at "off peak" times is a fallacy. Apart from the obvious lunacy of suggesting that people have their dinner or take a shower at 3 in the morning, if enough people do decide to shift their use to off demand hours, then the new time become the peak demand time.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2524 - 13/01/2023 11:38:25    2452297

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Nor did they refer to the suggestions that people who it is decided are using electricity in a climate hostile manner can be subject to tariffs or even penalties on use!

The whole thing about encouraging people to use electricity at "off peak" times is a fallacy. Apart from the obvious lunacy of suggesting that people have their dinner or take a shower at 3 in the morning, if enough people do decide to shift their use to off demand hours, then the new time become the peak demand time."
Being from the capital of screen engineering in the world I often wondered why electric suppliers would not offer incentives for companies to work at off peak hours for a lower tariff. Wind farms are turned off at off peak times so a cheaper rate would suit both parties.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2006 - 13/01/2023 12:55:12    2452308

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