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David Healy said last night he'd love if the Wee Province gets Ukraine away in Semi Final and then a home Final at Windsor Park.....sounds good, but if Austria and Denmark lose tonight then Austria,Denmark, Italy and Turkey into Pot 1 and Ukraine drop to Pot 2.
It's highly unlikely Austria and Denmark will lose so Pot 1 will consist of Italy, Turkey, Poland and Ukraine.
Ukraine away would be the cushy draw!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2756 - 18/11/2025 15:09:19    2645173

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Nationality is not complicated or "fluid." A piece of paper does not make you Irish or Japanese or Swiss."
Well said Barney, anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2591 - 18/11/2025 16:01:02    2645176

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I don't like the project player situations in rugby but also not shocked to see Barney weighing in. The Irish Patriot himself.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8642 - 18/11/2025 17:38:45    2645183

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Nationality is not complicated or "fluid." A piece of paper does not make you Irish or Japanese or Swiss."
Nationality isnt as simple as you make out. ive a cousin.he's irish and married to a french girl and their kids have grown up totally and always in England. many of their customs/characteristics etc are english as thats what many of their friends are. and its same all over for many more. nationality is complicated because it is a subjective blend of a persons legal status and a subjective feeling of cultural identity, influenced by factors like birthplace, heritage, and personal experience.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3859 - 18/11/2025 17:58:22    2645187

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Replying To katser:  "David Healy said last night he'd love if the Wee Province gets Ukraine away in Semi Final and then a home Final at Windsor Park.....sounds good, but if Austria and Denmark lose tonight then Austria,Denmark, Italy and Turkey into Pot 1 and Ukraine drop to Pot 2.
It's highly unlikely Austria and Denmark will lose so Pot 1 will consist of Italy, Turkey, Poland and Ukraine.
Ukraine away would be the cushy draw!"
It's a real farce that the North even have a shot of going to the World Cup by virtue of winning a group in Nations League 3. It is very unfair system that teams in League 2 will miss out on a play off because they didn't win a group containing much better teams. San Marino were next in line for a play off because they won a league in Nations League 4. It's definitely not a fair system.

In the same campaign the Republic of Ireland would have to have won a group containing England to get a play off via this method. The Republic of Ireland stayed in League 2 but they would almost be better off getting relegated to League 3 to boost their chances of a play off going forward. Crazy system.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1716 - 18/11/2025 19:44:36    2645195

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Nationality is not complicated or "fluid." A piece of paper does not make you Irish or Japanese or Swiss."
Ok Barney what does make you Irish in your book? Or any other nationality?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17557 - 18/11/2025 19:56:21    2645197

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Replying To Viking66:  "Ok Barney what does make you Irish in your book? Or any other nationality?"
Being born here at a minimum! Unless of Irish descent obviously.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3822 - 18/11/2025 20:50:57    2645205

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