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Replying To Bon:  "Plenty of people care, just look at all the teams who belt out their national anthems and tears in their eyes. It's a source of pride."
Just wait until a real debate on a United Ireland takes place. New flag, anthem etc. People don't realise a lot will change to satisfy the other side and they are gonna have to give up a lot. That will be the price to pay.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11479 - 11/03/2025 23:25:42    2596025

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Well done to President Trump anyway, he got Zelensky into line and agree to a ceasefire, not that I think the Ukrainians had any choice the game is up for them,
There should be elections there now if there is a ceasefire agreed and martial law is ended, that will be the last we'll see of Zelensky imo,

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3102 - 12/03/2025 10:17:53    2596044

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Just wait until a real debate on a United Ireland takes place. New flag, anthem etc. People don't realise a lot will change to satisfy the other side and they are gonna have to give up a lot. That will be the price to pay."
100% correct.
It won't be simply an expansion of the 26 Counties over the whole island.
The provisions of the GFA will still apply in the 6 Cos, eg, entitlement to dual citizenship etc

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2119 - 12/03/2025 10:52:14    2596048

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "100% correct.
It won't be simply an expansion of the 26 Counties over the whole island.
The provisions of the GFA will still apply in the 6 Cos, eg, entitlement to dual citizenship etc"
You & Yewtree are correct, there will be a price to pay such as a new flag & anthem and the Good Friday Agreement will still apply to the North. We have to compromise though in order to re-unite the country or we will be no different to how the Nationalists were discriminated against since the North came into existence. There is no point saying to unionist that the orange in the tricolour represents them, it would similar to the British saying the Saltire of St Patrick in the Union Jack represents the Irish.

I don't think the anthem and flag will be deal breakers though, the big issue for the South is how much it will cost the taxpayers on a continual basis to fund the North. There will be some economic synergies with re-unification but the North is heavily subsidised by the British Government. It will cost the South billions of euro every year and that could be the deal breaker.

Most people on here might be agreeable to higher taxes in order to re-unify the country, but from I what I can see there is a lot of indifference in the South towards the North, and if it will cost them in the pocket to reunify, then a sizeable portion of people will not vote for it.

county man (Limerick) - Posts: 1123 - 12/03/2025 11:36:16    2596055

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Yep. I have a good few Scottish friends that I routinely tease about their attitude to England. They play the anti-English stuff tediously when it comes to sporting fixtures etc, but when the opportunity was presented to them to cut ties with Great Britain in a vote, they chose to remain! I think economic factors swayed the vote more than patriotism, and it could well be the same in Ireland were such a referendum to come to pass.

All very well singing Grace in the pub and having romantic notions about a reunited Ireland. (Don't get me wrong, I would personally love to see it in my lifetime). But if it meant massive tax hikes to fund it all, would people really be as inclined to vote for reunification?

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9628 - 12/03/2025 11:57:21    2596057

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "There's no one really slating Prendergast. We've been observing for months that he's a greenhorn with a lot to learn. He's 21, time is on his side.

Minus Ringrose, Lowe and Hansen, our entire back division had a whiff of mediocrity about it the last day, especially compared to the panache that France can bring to the party. That wasn't Prendergast's fault. Nor was it his fault that the Irish pack couldn't give him the platform required to win the game on the day either."
Take out Louis BB and Penaud and that French backs look a different lot. Injuries play a huge part in the game and Ireland got bit last game. They still need to start the replacement process for the older players. Nash wasn't great and Osborne switching from center to wing to replace Lowe was a big downgrade. Some people will never be happy, one day they want new players blooded and the next they want only seasoned players playing.

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 495 - 12/03/2025 13:21:55    2596077

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