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Funny seeing people slating Prendergast. I'm on here long enough to remember people being ABSOLUTELY FURIOUS that Johnny Sexton was picked for Ireland and insisting he wasn't international standard cos he missed a few penalties Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12265 - 10/03/2025 11:59:19 2595723 Link 0 |
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For the benefit of the over educated if that's possible, I was referring to the population of Ireland that did not include, Asylum seekers, Immigrants and or Migrants or indeed Ulster, as you nice people might know when you pick and field Ulster provincial teams. The partitionist mindset was kicked into touch down Carlow way a long, long time ago. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3128 - 10/03/2025 12:24:51 2595739 Link 1 |
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Like everything in today's world, opinions come thick and heavy in the most extreme forms. A lot of them being reactionary to whatever perceived over the top praise/criticism from the other side of the house. In my own opinion, Prendergast is clearly very talented but also clearly has a huge amount to learn. Is he Ireland's best out-half currently? I'd argue he probably isn't and I do think Crowley has been very unlucky to lose his place. At the same time, management seem to have made their decision to give him this 6 nations to develop as a starter. Whether that was the best approach is always debatable. The blow-back he's gotten might end up stifling his development, rather than if he was eased in to team. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2252 - 10/03/2025 12:28:06 2595740 Link 0 |
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That's true but he was trying to oust Ronan O'Gara from No. 10 jersey who was a very steady kicker. He was also Contepomi's apprentice.Prendergast comes in to the team with a lot of pressure on him. His defending is suspect. Sexton was a good defender, sometimes too good. Hopefully he won't suffer later in life for that. Prendergast's not going to improve by Ireland doing anything rash. Hopefully they'll start him against Italy and build his confidence. His kicking can improve but his defending needs a lot more work.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7818 - 10/03/2025 13:20:03 2595750 Link 0 |
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Hansen who was qualified from birth to play for ireland is non irish?
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3735 - 10/03/2025 13:21:32 2595751 Link 0 |
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We all make mistakes when we quote facts and figures, I usually find it works better when we own up rather than did a bigger hole, I don't really follow rugby but where does Ian Henderson fit into your analysis.
tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 373 - 10/03/2025 13:45:24 2595759 Link 1 |
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There's no one really slating Prendergast. We've been observing for months that he's a greenhorn with a lot to learn. He's 21, time is on his side. Minus Ringrose, Lowe and Hansen, our entire back division had a whiff of mediocrity about it the last day, especially compared to the panache that France can bring to the party. That wasn't Prendergast's fault. Nor was it his fault that the Irish pack couldn't give him the platform required to win the game on the day either. Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4002 - 10/03/2025 15:26:49 2595785 Link 0 |
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Very strange to not include Cavan Monaghan and Donegal in your population stats then
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12265 - 10/03/2025 16:04:53 2595795 Link 5 |
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The wheels on the bandwagon got a bit wobbly boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 161 - 10/03/2025 16:21:26 2595797 Link 1 |
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Well he was born in Australia and represented his country of birth long before Ireland… His mother is Irish which makes him more qualified than others I will say that…. A lot of these guys will just up sticks and go home when the gravy train ends for them…or something more lucrative at home props up.. Just ask another great plastic green CJ Stander…!
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3569 - 10/03/2025 17:58:08 2595825 Link 1 |
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Well he was born in Australia and represented his country of birth long before Ireland… His mother is Irish which makes him more qualified than others I will say that…. A lot of these guys will just up sticks and go home when the gravy train ends for them…or something more lucrative at home props up.. Just ask another great plastic green CJ Stander…!
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3569 - 10/03/2025 17:58:35 2595826 Link 0 |
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Ah stop will ya. Jack Charlton headhunted lads who had zero thoughts of playing for Ireland. They never set foot in Ireland before playing for us. And never lived here before or after. The rugby lads like it or not have more links to the country and culture than the soccer lads who decide.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8306 - 10/03/2025 20:27:22 2595854 Link 1 |
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No .. soccer players had to have some sort of Irish relation in order to qualify… these rugby guys don't need that… when they don't make it onto their own national team they come over here and qualify after a few years and then head back home again with their pockets full… Any sign of CJ in the country now at all… no..?
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3569 - 11/03/2025 07:03:16 2595885 Link 1 |
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Well firstly I do think you have an interest in the game, - I am reading a single page flier from the 2023 match programme, it describes the feats of Ian Henderson, self explanatory. His success rate and achievements doesn't fall to many in a life time. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3128 - 11/03/2025 09:56:13 2595900 Link 0 |
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No different to what tadhg Kennelly has done gone back abroad
jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1386 - 11/03/2025 10:24:27 2595902 Link 0 |
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Wild that Manchester United going to leave a historic 74,000 seater stadium, which could be improved with funding to build a brand new stadium down the road for 2 billion. The logic escapes me boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 161 - 11/03/2025 11:06:00 2595911 Link 0 |
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Are you comparing Tadhg Kennelly to CJ Stander in terms of being Irish? Kennelly was born and reared in Ireland and moved to Australia as an adult for his career. His similarity to Stander is only if you were to argue that Kennelly is Australian to Stander being Irish. Kennelly wasn't born in Australia to Australian parents, and decided to come over for a few years to play for Kerry. I have no issue with players who qualified on residency playing rugby for Ireland, but you're undermining your own argument with the analogy above. It doesn't make any sense. Stander was a great servant to Munster rugby and the Irish team, and played for both teams with pride and distinction. However, he'd be the first to admit he's a South African who played for Ireland. He never acquired Irish citizenship either. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2252 - 11/03/2025 11:18:47 2595912 Link 0 |
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Some sort of relation? Lol. They didn't even realise themselves they had relations. CJ Stander retired and moved back to South Africa. And Stander was absolutely brilliant for Ireland. Did many of the Irish soccer players move to Ireland and live there?
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8306 - 11/03/2025 12:06:46 2595919 Link 0 |
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Did Rory Gallagher have 'relations' in Cavan when he rocked up to play for them in the late 2000s?? Im sure you were just as outraged with him then as you are with the Irish Rugby players now. peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1142 - 11/03/2025 12:23:25 2595920 Link 0 |
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Looking at the Italia 90 squad, apart from Tony Cascarino, who actually didn't have any Irish blood relation, I think that's pretty disingenuous. Mick McCarthy's father was from Waterford, Ray Houghton's father was from Donegal, Kevin Sheedy's father was from Clare, both of Alan McLoughlin's parents were Irish, David Kelly and John Sheridan had Irish fathers, Chris Morris and Chris Hughton had Irish mothers. Only John Aldridge, Andy Townsend and Bernie Slaven qualified through having Irish grandparents. Are you telling me they didn't know where their own parents were from? It was called the granny rule at them time, but in most cases back they actually had Irish parents. It's more likely to be a grandparent in this generation now, due to the passing of time. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2252 - 11/03/2025 12:43:11 2595927 Link 0 |