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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Seriously, do not insult my intelligence.

Níl aon Gaeltacht i Tír Eoghain. Fuair an teanga beo bás fadó. Tá gaeligoirí sa contae, mar aon le gach contae eile sa tír."
Lol Barney, at what age did you decide you were more knowledgeable about everything? Nobody knows or cares about your intelligence but you seem to think we're all idiots about every topic

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12123 - 25/04/2024 16:59:53    2540641

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Seriously, do not insult my intelligence.

Níl aon Gaeltacht i Tír Eoghain. Fuair an teanga beo bás fadó. Tá gaeligoirí sa contae, mar aon le gach contae eile sa tír."
I didn't say there were Gaeltachts there. Only that there were real native Irish speakers there who were brought up talking the language less than 100 years ago. Yes it died out, and yes there are attempts to revive it.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12073 - 25/04/2024 18:40:11    2540651

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Replying To Breffni40:  "Lol Barney, at what age did you decide you were more knowledgeable about everything? Nobody knows or cares about your intelligence but you seem to think we're all idiots about every topic"
I don't think he was implying that tbf. Not sure what Viking took from that article about Irish in Tyrone but Barney is correct in making the distinction between Irish speakers in a county or even gaelscoileanna in a county and a gaeltacht.
A real gaeltacht, not the official pseudo/cur i gcéill Gaeltacht, is where Irish is the every day spoken language of a community i.e at home, in the school yard, in the local pubs, in the local shops, at work, in church, on the GAA pitch etc. In most of the country, outside of the towns and cities, Irish was the living language of the majority until the 1850s and the word gaeltacht didn't exist until a Free State commission invented the term in 1926 to describe the pockets of Irish speaking areas that had survived, mostly along the western seaboard. There has been a gradual decline, for various reasons of those gaeltachts, a decline that was accelerated, ironically, in the 1980s with the return of English-speaking emigrants, due to the availability of work and a better standard of living. In Connemara, for example, the majority of the mothers in the 1970s were native Irish speakers but 10 years later those mothers were in the minority.

On the other hand since the 1970s there have been attempts at revival outside of the Gaeltacht, especially with gaelscoileanna in the cities. That's another story, a positive one but one where the state's attitude and action for many years has been negative and unsupportive.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1823 - 25/04/2024 20:12:24    2540665

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Replying To galwayford:  "very sad program on RTE last night. About the 1997, murder of Seán Brown, the chairman of Wolfe Tones GAC, of Bellaghy in Co. Down. By the LVF or UVF renegades. He was killed in retaliation for the killing of Policeman by the INLA. Serving members of the security services were involved in the killing and cover up."
RTÉ come in for some criticism but they have to get praise for this programme on the cowardly murder of family man Sean Brown.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2017 - 25/04/2024 21:29:21    2540674

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Replying To Saynothing:  "RTÉ come in for some criticism but they have to get praise for this programme on the cowardly murder of family man Sean Brown."
I agree, an excellent programme. It made me very angry to see what that lovely family had to endure - all the state collusion and lies, similar to what is happening to the poor Palestinians at the moment.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1823 - 26/04/2024 09:18:20    2540707

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https://www.gaa.ie/article/neil-mcmanus-hopes-unionists-will-come-to-embrace-gaelic-games

This needs more time to pass still, but fair play to him.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12073 - 26/04/2024 14:57:25    2540774

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Replying To Viking66:  "https://www.gaa.ie/article/neil-mcmanus-hopes-unionists-will-come-to-embrace-gaelic-games

This needs more time to pass still, but fair play to him."
Very interesting. One way to encourage unionists would be to further develop the connection with shinty in Scotland and to revive the old ground hurling with the shinty type camán in all provinces.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1823 - 26/04/2024 16:28:30    2540792

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Liverpool sinking like a stone ......

So much for their "quadruple" :)

bruffgael (Limerick) - Posts: 145 - 27/04/2024 13:32:58    2540880

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Replying To bruffgael:  "Liverpool sinking like a stone ......

So much for their "quadruple" :)"
One trophy's better than nothing which is what nearly every other team has to look forward to…. Liverpool look gassed out which is fairly understandable… Another City double looks likely.. They are the best team in Premier league history by a country mile….

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1953 - 28/04/2024 10:31:22    2541120

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82,300 packed into croke park yesterday to see leinster play northampton saints in the champions league semi- final, had the 11 year old with me, huge amount of youngsters around the same age there, tickets sold out in about 35 minutes and the deny that there is a big swing to the oval ball game, without the small ball game the gaa would be in big trouble. 82,300 packed into croke park yesterday to see leinster play northampton saints in the champions league semi- final, had the 11 year old with me huge amount of youngsters around the same age there, tickets sold out in about 35 minutes and the deny that there is a big swing to the oval ball game, without the small ball game the gaa would be in big trouble.

Cuhullain (Kildare) - Posts: 272 - 05/05/2024 14:32:04    2543112

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Replying To Cuhullain:  "82,300 packed into croke park yesterday to see leinster play northampton saints in the champions league semi- final, had the 11 year old with me, huge amount of youngsters around the same age there, tickets sold out in about 35 minutes and the deny that there is a big swing to the oval ball game, without the small ball game the gaa would be in big trouble. 82,300 packed into croke park yesterday to see leinster play northampton saints in the champions league semi- final, had the 11 year old with me huge amount of youngsters around the same age there, tickets sold out in about 35 minutes and the deny that there is a big swing to the oval ball game, without the small ball game the gaa would be in big trouble."
You go to a rugger match and then moan that the GAA aren't getting crowds.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1443 - 05/05/2024 15:19:27    2543128

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How many of those youngsters play rugby? Very few, Yesterday was a social outing. Lad on tannoy trying to keep crowd interested during second half by making nonsensical announcements about the attendance and Cian Healy, thousands drinking in the concourse areas during second half and kick off delayed at the start as the crowd couldn't be bothered getting there on time. There are no rugby clubs springing up nationwide to cope with the thousands of extra players, two clubs in Westmeath, three in Offaly, one in Longford, no change there, youngsters play a bit during winter to stay fit, it's rugby or soccer, they don't be long in choosing Gaa codes.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1505 - 05/05/2024 15:50:22    2543136

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What was the story about the rugger crowd coming in late yesterday, did the " google maps" app crash or something.

tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 277 - 05/05/2024 15:59:45    2543137

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Replying To Cuhullain:  "82,300 packed into croke park yesterday to see leinster play northampton saints in the champions league semi- final, had the 11 year old with me, huge amount of youngsters around the same age there, tickets sold out in about 35 minutes and the deny that there is a big swing to the oval ball game, without the small ball game the gaa would be in big trouble. 82,300 packed into croke park yesterday to see leinster play northampton saints in the champions league semi- final, had the 11 year old with me huge amount of youngsters around the same age there, tickets sold out in about 35 minutes and the deny that there is a big swing to the oval ball game, without the small ball game the gaa would be in big trouble."
Not so sure about that. A big occasion but in my experience the rugby bandwagon is made up of people that don't play sports.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2709 - 05/05/2024 16:37:38    2543143

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "One trophy's better than nothing which is what nearly every other team has to look forward to…. Liverpool look gassed out which is fairly understandable… Another City double looks likely.. They are the best team in Premier league history by a country mile…."
In premier League history? Stop this madness.

Ferguson won everything with no oil money, and had to contend with much stiffer opposition.

Not only that, but he built at least four separate sets of champions from the early 90s through to 2010s.

98/99 will never be surpassed. I know city have a treble, but United was built around their own youth players at a time when arsenal, juventus, inter Milan, Barcelona, Bayern were all world class. He beat them all in that season.

Most of all United had a fanbase made up of people who were older than 10.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2709 - 05/05/2024 16:43:09    2543144

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That was virtually an international match basically the Ireland team.What was the attendance at the club Final between Cork Con and Terenure.

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1060 - 05/05/2024 16:54:52    2543149

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "In premier League history? Stop this madness.

Ferguson won everything with no oil money, and had to contend with much stiffer opposition.

Not only that, but he built at least four separate sets of champions from the early 90s through to 2010s.

98/99 will never be surpassed. I know city have a treble, but United was built around their own youth players at a time when arsenal, juventus, inter Milan, Barcelona, Bayern were all world class. He beat them all in that season.

Most of all United had a fanbase made up of people who were older than 10."
The current city team would destroy any united team of the Premier league era, better fitness, better players.
I don't really agree either that united faced stiffer competition. Which opposition team throughout the 90s and 2000s were great? City in the early 2010s maybe?
The vast majority of players throughout the Fergie era were discovered and nurtured at other clubs.

And finally, a united fan accusing fans of any other club of being glory hunters will never stop being ironic.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1726 - 05/05/2024 16:55:29    2543150

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