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Coveney gone now…. Government ship holed well below the water line now… All jumping the sinking ship…

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1984 - 02/04/2024 18:04:33    2535240

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Coveney gone now…. Government ship holed well below the water line now… All jumping the sinking ship…"
Only blueshirts, no FFers jumping.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1470 - 02/04/2024 18:48:20    2535246

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Only blueshirts, no FFers jumping."
There'll be enough non-left voters for 1 of the 2 to do well. Civil war divide is well diluted at this stage too.
Some hope of stability and good international reputation to maintain investment.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5028 - 02/04/2024 22:00:04    2535277

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Only blueshirts, no FFers jumping."
I'd say they are waiting to jump into the ship captained by Mary Lou……,the Blueshirts know what's down the line for them

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1984 - 02/04/2024 22:11:49    2535279

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Replying To cavanman47:  "There'll be enough non-left voters for 1 of the 2 to do well. Civil war divide is well diluted at this stage too.
Some hope of stability and good international reputation to maintain investment."
"non left"? Apart from left and right being an almost meaningless concept these times, it certainly has no value in Irish context. All of the main parties share the same view on 90% of the main issues.

SF desperately attempting to reclaim some sort of radicalism, but too late maybe. Too dominated now by people who have little or nothing in common with founders of Provos.

And I am not referring to the armed struggle which was rightly abandoned as counter-productive apart from all the lives wasted on every side, but to their ideas of Irish nationalism and freedom.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2683 - 13/04/2024 06:19:41    2537605

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  ""non left"? Apart from left and right being an almost meaningless concept these times, it certainly has no value in Irish context. All of the main parties share the same view on 90% of the main issues.

SF desperately attempting to reclaim some sort of radicalism, but too late maybe. Too dominated now by people who have little or nothing in common with founders of Provos.

And I am not referring to the armed struggle which was rightly abandoned as counter-productive apart from all the lives wasted on every side, but to their ideas of Irish nationalism and freedom."
Twenty past 6 in the morning is too early to be stressing about politics barney

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1761 - 13/04/2024 14:06:42    2537639

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  ""non left"? Apart from left and right being an almost meaningless concept these times, it certainly has no value in Irish context. All of the main parties share the same view on 90% of the main issues.

SF desperately attempting to reclaim some sort of radicalism, but too late maybe. Too dominated now by people who have little or nothing in common with founders of Provos.

And I am not referring to the armed struggle which was rightly abandoned as counter-productive apart from all the lives wasted on every side, but to their ideas of Irish nationalism and freedom."
Think you are right about SF Barney. I sometimes wonder what their more prominent voices, have with the party's original political aims, Irish Unity and and political freedom, when the Provisionals split from the Official Sinn Fein in 1969.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1760 - 13/04/2024 16:02:26    2537660

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Replying To thelongridge:  "Think you are right about SF Barney. I sometimes wonder what their more prominent voices, have with the party's original political aims, Irish Unity and and political freedom, when the Provisionals split from the Official Sinn Fein in 1969."
Times and ideas etc change over 55 years lads.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1470 - 13/04/2024 16:06:32    2537661

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Times and ideas etc change over 55 years lads."
True. The idea of there being unity among the people of ireland anytime soon is so far fetched that you'd wonder is there any point in even striving for it.
Scenes like we saw in Southall in London recently are more likely to be played out in our cities in time to come.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1761 - 13/04/2024 16:50:31    2537670

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Anyone know if same rules apply in Croke Park for all games. Will the rugby supporters (Leinster & Northhampton) be able to bring alcohol to their seats for the semi-final in a couple of weeks time. Hopefully the same rules apply as per Gaa matches and will be part of the renting agreement.

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 537 - 17/04/2024 16:31:30    2538661

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "Anyone know if same rules apply in Croke Park for all games. Will the rugby supporters (Leinster & Northhampton) be able to bring alcohol to their seats for the semi-final in a couple of weeks time. Hopefully the same rules apply as per Gaa matches and will be part of the renting agreement."
Why, what harm would it do? Can be a pain in Aviva with people coming in/out. Is it a no drink rule for other events held there?

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2154 - 17/04/2024 17:24:04    2538672

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "Anyone know if same rules apply in Croke Park for all games. Will the rugby supporters (Leinster & Northhampton) be able to bring alcohol to their seats for the semi-final in a couple of weeks time. Hopefully the same rules apply as per Gaa matches and will be part of the renting agreement."
Good point!

They are much nicer people, obviously, so should not be bound by the rules governing the rest of us scruff who normally take up the place,

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2683 - 17/04/2024 17:53:07    2538683

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "Anyone know if same rules apply in Croke Park for all games. Will the rugby supporters (Leinster & Northhampton) be able to bring alcohol to their seats for the semi-final in a couple of weeks time. Hopefully the same rules apply as per Gaa matches and will be part of the renting agreement."
At a concert a few years back in Croke Park I attended we were able to bring our drinks to our seats. I presume the rugby fans will be able to do the same. Also I attended the two rugby games at Páirc Uí Chaoimh and was also able to drink at our seats. So I imagine drinks will be okay at the Leinster game

DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 269 - 17/04/2024 18:06:41    2538688

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Replying To DuhallowRed:  "At a concert a few years back in Croke Park I attended we were able to bring our drinks to our seats. I presume the rugby fans will be able to do the same. Also I attended the two rugby games at Páirc Uí Chaoimh and was also able to drink at our seats. So I imagine drinks will be okay at the Leinster game"
Only time I've seen people drinking in seats was in Yankee Stadium. Can't say it adds anything.

Why anyone would feel need to have a drink while watching a match is beyond me.

Having said that, allowing everyone other than ourselves to do so in our stadiums is rather amusing and perhaps indicates the regard the accountants hold us in.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2683 - 18/04/2024 07:33:21    2538762

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Only time I've seen people drinking in seats was in Yankee Stadium. Can't say it adds anything.

Why anyone would feel need to have a drink while watching a match is beyond me.

Having said that, allowing everyone other than ourselves to do so in our stadiums is rather amusing and perhaps indicates the regard the accountants hold us in."
Why anyone feels the need to snort lines off the back of the filthy toilet cisterns in Hill 16 (or anywhere for that matter) is beyond me, but these things still happen.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5028 - 18/04/2024 10:36:31    2538784

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Why anyone feels the need to snort lines off the back of the filthy toilet cisterns in Hill 16 (or anywhere for that matter) is beyond me, but these things still happen."
Yes. They should be allowed to snort in their seats.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2490 - 18/04/2024 11:01:26    2538794

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Prayers and congratulations to the 48 families who are finally getting some justice for their killing in the Stardust nightclub. Heard one father of victim No 6 on radio this morning, heartbreaking listening to him and he was at family wedding in Liverpool when the tragedy happened. Time for the government to stand .

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2025 - 18/04/2024 19:08:28    2538909

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Prayers and congratulations to the 48 families who are finally getting some justice for their killing in the Stardust nightclub. Heard one father of victim No 6 on radio this morning, heartbreaking listening to him and he was at family wedding in Liverpool when the tragedy happened. Time for the government to stand ."
I'm delighted they got a verdict and the truth finally is out, the survivors and victims families now need a state apology and compensation, hard to believe it took so long to get to the truth.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2777 - 18/04/2024 21:27:56    2538927

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "Anyone know if same rules apply in Croke Park for all games. Will the rugby supporters (Leinster & Northhampton) be able to bring alcohol to their seats for the semi-final in a couple of weeks time. Hopefully the same rules apply as per Gaa matches and will be part of the renting agreement."
Unlikely and its a gaa rule or stadium management in conjunction with gaa.
You could drink beer at your seat at previous rugby games in croke park iirc so could be sane now
Unlikely that this would be part of rental agreement

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3526 - 18/04/2024 21:33:35    2538928

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Why anyone feels the need to snort lines off the back of the filthy toilet cisterns in Hill 16 (or anywhere for that matter) is beyond me, but these things still happen."
This is what is known as a non sequitur ..... I should be charging tuition fees at this stage,

Drinking while watching a match doesn't happen at GAA matches because it is not permitted, Croke Park, however, appears to have no problem with it when nicer people are crashing for the day.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2683 - 18/04/2024 22:39:01    2538943

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