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So the threat of force by the UVF that led to partition and the non implementation of the home rule bill is still there and that's your fear? who are the terrorists now and who have they always been? If people are so happy being British then they can always move to Britain, were they will be identified as Irish people as soon as they speak because that is in reality what they are. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2934 - 16/02/2024 16:01:25 2526378 Link 0 |
Jamie Bwyson and Jim Allister are their intellectual leaders!
Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2934 - 16/02/2024 16:07:06 2526379 Link 0 |
Capitalism is only marginally better.
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3029 - 16/02/2024 16:34:39 2526382 Link 0 |
Socialism means no private ownership of property or business. America is pretty big on both. Ireland will plummit into economic depression if we tried to seize the means of production. I'm glad you brought up FDR though. He imprisoned more than 100,000 Japanese Americans for simply being of Japanese origin. No trial or any evidence to show any of them had any loyalty to Japan. The New Deal itself is debatable. It was largely funded by imposing taxes on goods and services (we have it as VAT here). These taxes affect those on the lowest incomes the hardest. It also prolonged unemployment by making it more expensive for businesses to expand and hire.
Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 740 - 16/02/2024 17:02:24 2526385 Link 1 |
The definition of socialism is the collective ownership of the means of production. A trade union in other words. Are you opposed to those? You've defined communism. Do you think America's poor are better off in the 50s or now? Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3029 - 16/02/2024 17:35:20 2526391 Link 0 |
It got the UK back on its feet after WW2. Produced an NHS that actually functioned. Everyone got reasonable education.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13296 - 16/02/2024 18:44:05 2526399 Link 0 |
Sure because people are just going to move back to Britain just like that, that's realistic. Personally it wouldn't bother me one way or another about a United Ireland, but I don't think most people ever want a return to the violence. Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2037 - 16/02/2024 19:30:07 2526403 Link 0 |
Same thing. No private company will accept it so the only option is for the Government to seize their property. Americas poor are better off now. You have to be delusional to think life in the 40s was better than now.
Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 740 - 16/02/2024 19:34:35 2526404 Link 0 |
You havent a notion of what socialism is.
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3624 - 16/02/2024 20:40:05 2526412 Link 0 |
He just can't make a point- he has to ram his point down our throats. Hence him posting it three times.
bruffgael (Limerick) - Posts: 178 - 16/02/2024 20:54:38 2526414 Link 3 |
Usually an IT issue tbh
points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 267 - 16/02/2024 21:36:29 2526418 Link 0 |
Part of the issue is that "socialism" nowadays is a word with no fixed meaning. It covers anything from repressive dictatorships to fantastic free countries such as Sweden, Norway, Canada, Iceland etc, which I can tell you are better places to live in than either Ireland or Britain (apart from the GAA). points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 267 - 16/02/2024 22:02:31 2526422 Link 0 |
Whatever about the attitudes to partition further south we in Donegal only know too well what a disaster it has been for the county, We have been cut off from our natural hinterlands with one road connecting us to the rest of the Republic making us virtually an island completely hindering our development.The sooner it can be got rid of the better for us here.Whether in a united Ireland the government would be Socialist,Social Democratic or Christian Democratic etc wouldn't worry me as long as it would be a democracy and could be changed at elections. gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1105 - 17/02/2024 11:16:57 2526451 Link 0 |
Absolutely! The fact that the North has a different currency further compounds the issue. Donegal remains the forgotten county with very little industry. People have to go to Galway for any serious health issues, as Letterkenny is inadequate. 32 county republic would benefit Donegal as regards tourism, infrastructure, jobs, healthcare and everything else!! The Mica issue is an absolute disaster!
Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 362 - 17/02/2024 13:01:24 2526466 Link 0 |
I always find Donegal have more in common with Glasgow than they do with Dublin. So many Celtic supporters in that county.
Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 861 - 17/02/2024 15:06:43 2526483 Link 1 |
What do you want them to do, support Dublin?
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2462 - 17/02/2024 15:39:00 2526490 Link 0 |
Do you not support the Dubs?
Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 861 - 17/02/2024 15:46:41 2526492 Link 0 |
Sure. I'm the future socialist governement of Ireland will be more than happy for American companies to continue operating in Ireland and making profit.
Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 740 - 17/02/2024 15:48:33 2526493 Link 0 |
Usually anybody bar Dublin or Kerry, for the good of the game
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2462 - 17/02/2024 16:02:45 2526495 Link 0 |
Would you support Down and Derry?
Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 861 - 17/02/2024 17:12:11 2526509 Link 0 |