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Replying To Matchwatcher:  "Just my early opinions on Leagues and Championships/Relegation
Anyone else care to comment?
Senior: Scotstown
Relegation:Ballybay and Aughnamullen

Intermediate:Donaghmoyne C and Carrick L
Relegation: Toome and Drumhowan

Junior:Emyvale double, Eire Og promotion

I imagine there will be a lot of changes in management too across all divisions especially in Junior where I hear most managers are gone.
Did Toome management quit during the season?"
Who's gone in junior?

farneygael3 (Monaghan) - Posts: 411 - 07/10/2025 16:04:33    2638855

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Replying To farneygael3:  "Who's gone in junior?"
Currin, Killeevan, Oram, Rock, Toome all looking for managers. Might only be hearsay though. Seems a bit early for manager talk!

Matchwatcher (Monaghan) - Posts: 9 - 07/10/2025 16:55:09    2638863

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Replying To Matchwatcher:  "Currin, Killeevan, Oram, Rock, Toome all looking for managers. Might only be hearsay though. Seems a bit early for manager talk!"
New manager in killevan could really get them over the line…… On a serious note what is the way a team is promoted in junior if emeyvale win the double alot of rumours but no confirmed method. Is it highest ranked league team? Championship finalists ?

Clubman57 (Monaghan) - Posts: 8 - 07/10/2025 20:08:29    2638883

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Replying To Clubman57:  "New manager in killevan could really get them over the line…… On a serious note what is the way a team is promoted in junior if emeyvale win the double alot of rumours but no confirmed method. Is it highest ranked league team? Championship finalists ?"
Kileevan go up on potential thanks to the comments on hoganstand

updafaughs (Monaghan) - Posts: 148 - 07/10/2025 20:38:39    2638889

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Replying To Clubman57:  "New manager in killevan could really get them over the line…… On a serious note what is the way a team is promoted in junior if emeyvale win the double alot of rumours but no confirmed method. Is it highest ranked league team? Championship finalists ?"
Promotion procedures are clearly outlined in a document published on Monaghan GAA website here;

https://monaghangaa.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/Regulations-for-League-and-Championship-2025-CCC250307.pdf

Here's the slightly abridged relevant part for junior;

Promotion:
The winner of the Junior Football Championship Final will be promoted to play in the Intermediate Football Championship and the Intermediate League in the following year 2026.

If the winner of the Junior Football League also wins the Junior Football Championship, a 'Junior Promotion Play-Off' between the beaten Junior Championship Finalist and the beaten Junior League Finalist will take place. The winner of the 'Junior Promotion Play-Off' shall also be promoted to the Intermediate Football League and Championship of 2026.

If the the beaten Junior Championship Finalist is the same team to the beaten Junior League Finalist in which one
team wins both the Junior Championship & League, then that finalist shall also be promoted to the Intermediate Football League and Championship of 2026.

TearsIn85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 218 - 08/10/2025 09:54:37    2638914

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Replying To TearsIn85:  "Promotion procedures are clearly outlined in a document published on Monaghan GAA website here;

https://monaghangaa.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/Regulations-for-League-and-Championship-2025-CCC250307.pdf

Here's the slightly abridged relevant part for junior;

Promotion:
The winner of the Junior Football Championship Final will be promoted to play in the Intermediate Football Championship and the Intermediate League in the following year 2026.

If the winner of the Junior Football League also wins the Junior Football Championship, a 'Junior Promotion Play-Off' between the beaten Junior Championship Finalist and the beaten Junior League Finalist will take place. The winner of the 'Junior Promotion Play-Off' shall also be promoted to the Intermediate Football League and Championship of 2026.

If the the beaten Junior Championship Finalist is the same team to the beaten Junior League Finalist in which one
team wins both the Junior Championship & League, then that finalist shall also be promoted to the Intermediate Football League and Championship of 2026."
Simple so it's emyvale, Sean's or Eire og.

If emyvale win both it's a playoff. Won't matter as either will be straight back down

veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 846 - 08/10/2025 12:04:50    2638928

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Replying To Jjoniel79:  "Couldn't agree more on the setup on clontibret and the young lads in Scotstown, all very impressive.

One thing I will say though is there's been some amount of players come through from minors to seniors in all clubs since Darren and Kieran Hughes made their senior debuts for Scotstown and for anyone watching yesterday you could see that they're still head and shoulders the best and most impactful footballers for Scotstown or indeed any club (outside of McManus).

Scotstown will stay on top of the pile for as long as those two boys keep running the show and based on yesterdays evidence they'll be about for another good few years yet.

Does beg the question though - for all the players coming through from clubs, development squads, schools, colleges, etc, why hasn't a player come through that can come close to the Hughes or McManus in the last 15 years? Before that we had the likes of the Freemans, McQuaid, Corey's, etc - but very little at that level since?"
The decline in reserve football could have a lot to do with it Niall?

FarneyGael23 (Monaghan) - Posts: 9 - 08/10/2025 17:28:40    2638972

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Replying To veterngaa:  "Simple so it's emyvale, Sean's or Eire og.

If emyvale win both it's a playoff. Won't matter as either will be straight back down"
Is that so. Then a sad state of affairs that the United Parishes second team couldn't reach either finals.

ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 815 - 08/10/2025 18:10:14    2638979

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Senior
Balybay beat cremartin
Truagh beat aughnamullen
Think clontibret beat scotstown ( gonna be some game)
Maghercloone to beat inniskeen

Intermediate
Kilanny beat donaghmoyne
Blayney beat carrick

Monaghan_football (Monaghan) - Posts: 73 - 08/10/2025 19:03:03    2638986

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Replying To ORIELMAN85:  "Is that so. Then a sad state of affairs that the United Parishes second team couldn't reach either finals."
All about development… young players playing at a decent level to feed into the senior team. This is why they are years ahead of planning and development …

veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 846 - 08/10/2025 20:46:05    2638995

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Replying To MalsBalls:  "i think Dessie Ward is up there with the Hughes' in terms of drive, strength, skill and ability...injuries kept him out for the guts of 2 years and thats probably the only reason he's not a household name

I take your point though - since, say, 2010, we haven't had a big influx of players that we had especially for the 2013 season with walshe, wylie, hughes x2, oconnel, beggan and mcmanus but they bolstered up a team with corey, moen, freeman and lennon etc

I think today we have other stars that have trickled in moreso than an influx of players - mccarthy, bannigan, o'hanlon, mcanespie, mohan & ward

its different now too where back in 2010 - the mckenna cup and league was used to blood minors coming through but now you nearly need to get through an u20s before making a county squad unless you're david clifford"
Probably valid enough, seems to be a bit of a roadblock from minors to seniors at club and county level - Clontibret as far as I'm aware are the only ones who've bucked the trend slightly and are integrating the minors into the senior panel much earlier than most and it's paying dividends. For a club with a small pick they consistently produce the goods.

Jjoniel79 (Monaghan) - Posts: 236 - 09/10/2025 09:53:48    2639027

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Replying To FarneyGael23:  "The decline in reserve football could have a lot to do with it Niall?"
The point still stands. I'm not Niall but I've a fair idea who you are from talking to a few up your part of the world. How's things in Tyrone? Or are you back in for the county job?

Jjoniel79 (Monaghan) - Posts: 236 - 09/10/2025 09:58:44    2639029

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Replying To Jjoniel79:  "Probably valid enough, seems to be a bit of a roadblock from minors to seniors at club and county level - Clontibret as far as I'm aware are the only ones who've bucked the trend slightly and are integrating the minors into the senior panel much earlier than most and it's paying dividends. For a club with a small pick they consistently produce the goods."
I'd lean towards saying the 4 teams left in senior all have a well integrated level of youth into the team, maybe this year more so, as you mentioned clontibret have some, scotstown's youth was on show at the weekend, mcloone have a very young team throughout and Inniskeen have a sprinkle here and there. There are very few minors around who can cut adult football instantly and they need time adjust to the pace and physicality, many times I've seen a great young player "the next best thing in the club" succumb and can set them back a year or two.

Deadballmerchant (Monaghan) - Posts: 27 - 09/10/2025 12:05:15    2639058

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See Clontibret have made the Div 1 minor final also so there must be a good group of lads there. I believe they are to play the winners of Corduff and Donaghmoyne which was due played at the weekend.

This game was put off due to Banty having a few minors on the senior panel. Anyone know when this will be played now?

countymonaghan (Monaghan) - Posts: 311 - 09/10/2025 12:55:10    2639064

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Replying To countymonaghan:  "See Clontibret have made the Div 1 minor final also so there must be a good group of lads there. I believe they are to play the winners of Corduff and Donaghmoyne which was due played at the weekend.

This game was put off due to Banty having a few minors on the senior panel. Anyone know when this will be played now?"
Issue not with Corduff requesting 2 games don't take place in 24hours (player welfare surely) but our fixtures committee setting 2 games in 24hrs. Wasn't rocket science?

farneygael3 (Monaghan) - Posts: 411 - 09/10/2025 18:48:32    2639136

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Replying To farneygael3:  "Issue not with Corduff requesting 2 games don't take place in 24hours (player welfare surely) but our fixtures committee setting 2 games in 24hrs. Wasn't rocket science?"
Sure minors shouldn't be playing senior these days

veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 846 - 09/10/2025 20:52:31    2639147

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Replying To farneygael3:  "Issue not with Corduff requesting 2 games don't take place in 24hours (player welfare surely) but our fixtures committee setting 2 games in 24hrs. Wasn't rocket science?"
Where did I say it was their issue? I just said Seamus had a few lads on the senior team. Was simply just asking did any one know when it was fixed for?

Speaking of Corduff, will Seamus and Rory be there again next year? Hard to keep going to the trenches and they do go their. They but huge work in and do a lot of training and work with that team. No one in Corduff could begrudge Banty a break from managing but he would say himself that its a 'bug' and his addiction to competing is unreal. Some club man to be fair to him.

countymonaghan (Monaghan) - Posts: 311 - 10/10/2025 08:29:06    2639168

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Replying To countymonaghan:  "Where did I say it was their issue? I just said Seamus had a few lads on the senior team. Was simply just asking did any one know when it was fixed for?

Speaking of Corduff, will Seamus and Rory be there again next year? Hard to keep going to the trenches and they do go their. They but huge work in and do a lot of training and work with that team. No one in Corduff could begrudge Banty a break from managing but he would say himself that its a 'bug' and his addiction to competing is unreal. Some club man to be fair to him."
Wasn't fixed because apparently the same Corduff minors would be in the semi this weekend and by the rumours circulating banty stepped down after the game at the weekend, I'd imagine that RG would leave with him.

Deadballmerchant (Monaghan) - Posts: 27 - 10/10/2025 11:14:11    2639197

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Replying To Deadballmerchant:  "Wasn't fixed because apparently the same Corduff minors would be in the semi this weekend and by the rumours circulating banty stepped down after the game at the weekend, I'd imagine that RG would leave with him."
I see. They were being optimistic.

Yeah they are there a good length now change be needed. Where do Corduff go from here to replace them? Rumours of Lennon leaving Latton also after their hammering at the weekend.

Will be a lot of managers swapping around now come November and December.

countymonaghan (Monaghan) - Posts: 311 - 10/10/2025 11:56:59    2639207

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Replying To Deadballmerchant:  "Wasn't fixed because apparently the same Corduff minors would be in the semi this weekend and by the rumours circulating banty stepped down after the game at the weekend, I'd imagine that RG would leave with him."
I see. They were being optimistic.

Yeah they are there a good length now change be needed. Where do Corduff go from here to replace them? Rumours of Lennon leaving Latton also after their hammering at the weekend.

Will be a lot of managers swapping around now come November and December.

countymonaghan (Monaghan) - Posts: 311 - 10/10/2025 12:57:39    2639217

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