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Replying To Dennis_Maroon95kg:  "How are Kinnegad definitely the next best. - they lost to Lomans by 10+ points whereas Tclair brought them to extra time and had multiple chances to win it. Tclair also one of the fittest teams in the county with a young age profile and training 4 times a week.

How could Shamrocks be ahead of Garrycastle in a current power ranking when Garrycastle finished ahead of them this year and beat them on head to head."
Kinnegad topped group A and but for a quirk of the draw, should have been in the final. The 10 point loss in the semi final was misleading as there was 3 points in it with minutes to go and Kinnegad spurned a goal chance to level it. They are unquestionably at least third best and but for a host of different reasons should be second.
I probably ranked Shamrocks more on potential than performance.both they and Garrycastle were v average this year.

Iarmhisamhi (Westmeath) - Posts: 84 - 13/10/2026 21:36:26    2697229

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Replying To Dennis_Maroon95kg:  "Athlone drew with Tclair in the final game when both teams were already through. The Shamrocks Garrycastle game effectively decided who would be in with a chance of finishing 3rd going into the final round of games. Tclair also finished above Athlone so you've ignored half my argument."
Exactly my point. You can't rank teams purely on head to head results without considering the context. In the context of the Athlone v Tubberclair game, Tubberclair were already through and therefore made changes. There's certainly an argument for ranking Tubberclair highly, but putting them 3rd purely because they topped Section B and brought St Loman's to extra time in a quarter final is a bit of a leap. Running the beaten finalists close is a creditable performance but are you placing a lot of weight on one performance? In my opinion, rankings should reflect consistency, and performances over time, not simply how close you came to beating a particular team on one occasion. The Downs, St Loman's and Kinnegad, in that order, have consistently been the 3 best teams over the last 5 years.

iarmhiabu (Westmeath) - Posts: 432 - 13/10/2026 21:55:46    2697232

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Replying To MichaelScott:  "Wasting your time arguing with him, he's always right and will always have the last word, better not to engage at all"
I'm not always right, but I can understand why you'd think that, Mike.

iarmhiabu (Westmeath) - Posts: 432 - 13/10/2026 22:03:56    2697234

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Replying To iarmhiabu:  "Exactly my point. You can't rank teams purely on head to head results without considering the context. In the context of the Athlone v Tubberclair game, Tubberclair were already through and therefore made changes. There's certainly an argument for ranking Tubberclair highly, but putting them 3rd purely because they topped Section B and brought St Loman's to extra time in a quarter final is a bit of a leap. Running the beaten finalists close is a creditable performance but are you placing a lot of weight on one performance? In my opinion, rankings should reflect consistency, and performances over time, not simply how close you came to beating a particular team on one occasion. The Downs, St Loman's and Kinnegad, in that order, have consistently been the 3 best teams over the last 5 years."
Your last sentence is spot on , and is an absolute killer for Kinnegad, If they don't win it very soon, I would say either 2027 or 2028, then they'll probably miss the boat. It's rare to see a team that close for an extended time and not win one. Tyrrellspass group that lost a few finals to Lomans the only other recent example I can think of.

jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 536 - 14/10/2026 15:01:43    2697296

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