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Longford used Clonguish literally this week for the U20 game against ourselves.
Iakecounty90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 10 - 18/04/2025 20:58:40 2602654 Link 1 |
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You mentioned Hyde Park and Pearse Park, no issue if all county games were in Cusack Park but they aren't. Kinnegad and Loman's have great facilities absolutely no doubt about it. But our U20s in a B competition now is an ideal opportunity to share the load; I'm fairly sure Tubberclair for example under lights this week would provide a tighter and better atmosphere than Kinnegad or Loman's will; they have no problem training in these places along with Bunbrosna and Multyfarnham but yet won't play games there. Wouldn't it be a huge occasion for Multyfarnham to host or Castledaly. They had a huge crowd for a senior challenge this year. I just cannot understand how people can't grasp the support issues when it's in front of people's eyes.
OverTheHill85 (Westmeath) - Posts: 67 - 18/04/2025 22:26:53 2602669 Link 1 |
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I was literally referring to senior. And Clonguish is literally 4km from Pearse Park hardly the opposite end of the county.
Chops (Westmeath) - Posts: 798 - 18/04/2025 22:41:46 2602674 Link 0 |
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Has anyone copped onto the biggest flaw in Westmesth gaa at the moment ? coffey (Westmeath) - Posts: 20 - 18/04/2025 22:57:44 2602678 Link 1 |
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Donegal play in Ballybofey (centre of the county), Letterkenny (the biggest town and more convenient for the north of the county) and Ballyshannon in the south. That's seniors, twenties and minors.
panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2849 - 18/04/2025 22:59:14 2602679 Link 0 |
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Agreed; how more people don't see this is mad. 15/17 was working very well, the rubbish about drop off rates is just that, a young lad who doesn't wish to play is only giving an extra year and then gone anyway. You look at our county 20s, so many of them yet to play adult level for their club and we wonder why they struggle against better teams. Just a matter of time before someone names maybe one or two players in the entire county who are dual players rather than the majority.
OverTheHill85 (Westmeath) - Posts: 67 - 19/04/2025 09:47:13 2602701 Link 1 |
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Nobody has ever said that senior games shouldn't be in Mullingar. But the fact no underage games even at B level aren't brought outside Athlone or Kinnegad is frustrating. Bunbrosna have done fabulous work on their grounds and I'm sure our minors in their second tier competition could easily play there, same goes for Multyfarnham, Castledaly or Tubberclair as example.
OverTheHill85 (Westmeath) - Posts: 67 - 19/04/2025 09:49:36 2602702 Link 0 |
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I'd forgotten Donegal and Monaghan use Inishkeen aswell as Clones
Chops (Westmeath) - Posts: 798 - 19/04/2025 10:26:32 2602709 Link 0 |
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The original comment wasn't just referring to senior so why would you
Iakecounty90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 10 - 19/04/2025 10:38:58 2602710 Link 0 |
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100% but original poster was asking about senior asking why Roscommon league game couldn't have been in Athlone. Athlone is falling apart old concrete seats are falling down, and dangerous. There is nowhere that could take the crowd or traffic better than Cusack park at the moment.
Chops (Westmeath) - Posts: 798 - 19/04/2025 11:37:20 2602728 Link 0 |
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If you are a minor or u20 player where would you prefer to play? Tubberclair or Cusack Park? I know when I was a kid there was only 1 place I wanted to play. The reason Kinnegad is used because it suits many of young players working or studying in Maynooth, or Dublin colleges for travel on a midweek game. I think in terms of player welfare midweek u20 games are actually quite unfair.
Chops (Westmeath) - Posts: 798 - 19/04/2025 12:22:44 2602742 Link 0 |
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Looking at the 20s team, both midfielders - Baker and Ormsby - have already played senior. In the backs, Keane, Curran, Dillon, and Shortall have all lined out at senior level too. Bracken will be there or thereabouts this year, but Loman's is a tough outfit to break into. Up front, Duncan, Corcoran, Murphy, Duffy, and Murray have all played senior with their clubs' first teams. Kelly and Connell are in their first year at senior level and will probably break in at some stage during the championship. When it comes to goalkeepers, Doran has been between the posts for Shamrocks for the past two seasons. So by the looks of it, the majority of our starting 15 have already broken into their clubs' senior teams............ Fighting-Cocks69 (Westmeath) - Posts: 76 - 19/04/2025 13:07:58 2602747 Link 0 |
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The clubs voted to change , pushed by under 13/15 coaches who didn't look at the bigger picture, winning an under 13 that year more important , and astonishingly it was the smaller clubs that pushed it
Thechick (Westmeath) - Posts: 268 - 19/04/2025 14:54:25 2602759 Link 0 |
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Yes maybe a year but the likes of Connell, Kelly, Bourke, Thornton, Curran should all be in their second year now and with a championship under their belt, not an odd league game. And the lads you mentioned almost all benefitted before the rule change came into effect. Please think logically before coming back with that. Corcoran, Ormsby, Duncan, Duffy, Keane, Doran, Murphy, Baker, O Donovan all finished at U17 and into adult football. So really you have inadvertently proved my point. The lads who look stronger and up to it have all had two years of club championship. That's not going to be the case next year when they'll all have one year max, so Curran for example could potentially have 3 or 4 senior championship games played and be in his second year of U20 intercounty. Will Scahill could absolutely play intermediate/senior for Shandonagh next year and it would develop him, rather than playing against his own age group where with the greatest of respect it'll be men vs boys. I agree the clubs pushed it through, but they were led by the county board pushing a narrative that burnout and fixtures would be an issue, they said minor games would be on Fridays and clash with adult games and this then wasn't the case when the championship proceeded. U18s should absolutely be playing adult football and I'm not sure I could be convinced otherwise. OverTheHill85 (Westmeath) - Posts: 67 - 19/04/2025 17:09:31 2602799 Link 2 |
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I'd absolutely rather play in Cusack Park, but you do realize none of these games have been played in Cusack Park that we are referring to. Spare a thought for those students in Maynooth who would have to travel 50 minutes to Athlone for a game. What about the ones in Galway, is Kinnegad fair for them? The U20 management pushed to play a game in Athlone and were told no by the county board. Make of that what you will.
OverTheHill85 (Westmeath) - Posts: 67 - 19/04/2025 17:12:44 2602800 Link 1 |
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That's grand so, no real point replying after reading the last line but i see where your coming from.
Fighting-Cocks69 (Westmeath) - Posts: 76 - 19/04/2025 21:17:01 2602902 Link 0 |
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Are you forgetting the real reason why counties like ourselves, Longford, Meath and Offaly are playing these midweek U20/minor games at alternative venues? It's an issue with floodlights at their main grounds. As someone suggested above Athlone is falling down, stand is not fit for purpose. The county board were right to say no to the U20 management. It's not up to the U20 management to decide where the game should be played.
iarmhiabu (Westmeath) - Posts: 150 - 20/04/2025 11:03:53 2602996 Link 1 |
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Multyfarnham lights, Castledaly lights, TUS lights, Tubberclair lights, Athlone lights, Garrycastle lights. And surely to God it is up to the management to decide where the game should be played. Why would the county board overrule that? Athlone is certainly getting outdated but a great venue for a game and always has been. Most of those grounds do or have held championship double headers and could certainly cater for an U20/U17 B game.
OverTheHill85 (Westmeath) - Posts: 67 - 20/04/2025 12:47:43 2603021 Link 1 |
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Most club games played already, did many of our county players feature? It would be nice to see them involved again over the coming weeks depending on the Tailteann draw. OverTheHill85 (Westmeath) - Posts: 67 - 20/04/2025 13:36:16 2603040 Link 0 |
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Seeing the website has the next round of League games all early next week; is there a reason for this or why are they not at the weekend? OverTheHill85 (Westmeath) - Posts: 67 - 20/04/2025 16:05:08 2603079 Link 0 |