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Replying To Undertheroad:  "And rightly so as I said silly idea going into league football with a outfield player in goals ."
Outfield players have been playing in goals for years, goalkeepers coming up to join the attack has been happening for years. It has become a real focal point under the 3 v 3 rule. Teams are constantly copying each other, everyone else can see the point of playing the goalkeeper outfield. There's a high risk involved but if it gives the attacking team a numerical advantage and you have a player capable of playing this role, getting a shot away etc, then why not?

iarmhiabu (Westmeath) - Posts: 119 - 02/02/2025 18:44:17    2588981

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Replying To Lakecounty94:  "Anyone at the match today? Sounded like another positive performance but just couldn't get ahead. At very least we appear to be very competitive so far. Seemed to be a lot of changes to the team. Any of the injured contingent back in the squad ?"
A positive performance, conceding just the 2-29.

iarmhiabu (Westmeath) - Posts: 119 - 02/02/2025 18:57:37    2588987

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Westmeath did very well for 50 minutes, Conellan missing and Luke Loughlins selfish streak made the difference. They had a couple of gilt edged goal chances either side of half time that would.hqve rattled Monaghan. In the end a bit of extra physicality and experience won it for Monaghan. As for the scores conceded, rules and ref.played a huge part

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1140 - 02/02/2025 19:10:33    2588990

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Midfield was a major issue today. Connellan and Guerin didn't start which seems strange as clearly Connellan wasn't injured. Rory Beggan won lots of ball at midfield and physically we struggled in other areas. Our starting forward line contains some very light forwards and in February conditions it's tough for them. Even after two rounds results are not going our way, Meath had a big win today and Down made a great comeback. A relegation battle was always on the cards and despite two decent performances nothing has changed in that regard."
Ray Connellan was injured 100% and he was a huge loss today in and around the midfield
Luke Loughlin was a threat throughout but needs to be more of a team player-twice today he went through and a simple pass inside was a score for us-first occassion from a poor kick out it was him and Stephen Smith against Rory Beggan 2v1 and he blasted well wide where a simple hand pass inside had Smith in front of an open goal for a tap in.Monaghan's physically in winning the breaking ball and in the tackle was where we lost but we scored 2-19 and missed two sitters for more goals.A lot of the Monaghan supporters around us were impressed by our play but moral victories are not much use but at least we are putting in the effort

Bruno@1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 226 - 02/02/2025 19:27:04    2589000

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Replying To Eddie the Exile:  "Westmeath did very well for 50 minutes, Conellan missing and Luke Loughlins selfish streak made the difference. They had a couple of gilt edged goal chances either side of half time that would.hqve rattled Monaghan. In the end a bit of extra physicality and experience won it for Monaghan. As for the scores conceded, rules and ref.played a huge part"
Patronising post ! WM supporters deserve better than that. Monaghan fully deserved their win with a top score for 2nd game in succession. Positives for WM too in attack. Keep the heads up lads, you will beat Cavan & one other.

Shelbourne1 (Monaghan) - Posts: 366 - 02/02/2025 19:28:06    2589002

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Leaving clones and all things considered today was good. Created loads of chances,missed two certain goals. We conceded at terrible times. Two midfielder were a big loss before game. Of the 15 that started and finished, at least 6 are off the pace in a number of areas. But time will tell. The keeper experiment is not working but had to be tried. Started with two very tough games. Could pick up points in next 4

Upforthegame23 (Westmeath) - Posts: 125 - 02/02/2025 19:44:42    2589011

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Midfield was a major issue today. Connellan and Guerin didn't start which seems strange as clearly Connellan wasn't injured. Rory Beggan won lots of ball at midfield and physically we struggled in other areas. Our starting forward line contains some very light forwards and in February conditions it's tough for them. Even after two rounds results are not going our way, Meath had a big win today and Down made a great comeback. A relegation battle was always on the cards and despite two decent performances nothing has changed in that regard."
Clearly Connellan not injured at it again with wrong information. Any word on backup Goalkeeper?

Undertheroad (Westmeath) - Posts: 70 - 02/02/2025 19:54:15    2589014

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Really enjoying the Iarmhi podcast. A great addition to our Gaa in the county with it now following the league campaign in both codes after 2 seasons covering the club championship.

Hopefully it starts building some support within our support base, as our numbers coming out to cheer on the team over recent years has fallen off a cliff. Not being helped by charging juveniles an admission fee.

Maroon Heaven (Westmeath) - Posts: 40 - 02/02/2025 20:29:33    2589025

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Other counties are charging juveniles and it doesn't affect attendances. It's a Croke Park directive so no choice in matter. Division 2 in the league always promised to be difficult even without 5-6 significant absentees and our physical size is telling against us. We don't have 3-4 players of 6 ft 4 inches in stature, with the new rules and more contested kickouts it's a factor. The Meath and Cavan games will be crucial, Cork away and Roscommon look extremely difficult tasks, 5 points prob needed to stay up.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1991 - 02/02/2025 20:47:44    2589032

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Have to agree with above regarding the goalkeeper experiment not working. It had to be tried for sure. Daly definitely would have saved the first goal today. I understand Trevor Martin left the panel a while back. What other options are there?

That goal before half time was a killer blow. Luke played very well again. However; he needs to look up a bit more and become more of a team player. He had to pass to Smith today when he was running through to get what would have been a certain goal. Brandon Kelly made an impact when he came on and great to see him getting a chance again.

Wallace and Sam McCartan were outstanding again.

A two week break is definitely needed to reset!!

Plenty of positives today but nothing to show again unfortunately. We are a little light around the middle. How we could do with Sam Duncan or even Johnny Lynam!

As usual a dreadful Westmeath support today; but nothing new with that..

Matthew (None) - Posts: 1049 - 02/02/2025 21:23:01    2589053

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Other counties are charging juveniles and it doesn't affect attendances. It's a Croke Park directive so no choice in matter. Division 2 in the league always promised to be difficult even without 5-6 significant absentees and our physical size is telling against us. We don't have 3-4 players of 6 ft 4 inches in stature, with the new rules and more contested kickouts it's a factor. The Meath and Cavan games will be crucial, Cork away and Roscommon look extremely difficult tasks, 5 points prob needed to stay up."
Some time or mostly that's needed but not all about worried about ability to defend or who have ye outside Luke to change a game seems to bs some positive but a bit disjointed

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 563 - 02/02/2025 21:24:41    2589055

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Some positives to take from today, competitive for long periods. Fell asleep for the last 5 minutes of the first half and conceded 1-3 on the trot after getting a goal to equalise before coming out at the start of the second half and getting back into it well again. As other posters alluded to, a couple of guilt-edge goal chances missed from Loughlin and Brandon Kelly I think it was in 2nd half. The two-pointers can really make a game get away from you very quick, and I don't think the 10-point margin did us any justice. The goalkeeper "experiment" is not working so far on evidence of first 2 games. We looked a very small team lining up for the national anthem I thought and the lack of physicality showed throughout. Again, the travelling Westmeath support was dismal.

TheLineKing (Westmeath) - Posts: 26 - 02/02/2025 21:26:07    2589057

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I do agree lack physical maybe that's cause lost lot experienced players it will take a while for westmeath to get used that but on any day ye sre capable of beating meath cavan and who knows with Cork

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 563 - 02/02/2025 21:32:03    2589061

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Replying To Shelbourne1:  "Patronising post ! WM supporters deserve better than that. Monaghan fully deserved their win with a top score for 2nd game in succession. Positives for WM too in attack. Keep the heads up lads, you will beat Cavan & one other."
Wasn't meant in that way. For anyone not at the match the Monaghan scoreline looked huge but my point was that play didn't really reflect that. Westmeath very much in the game until later in 2nd half and Monaghan supporters were definitely edgy. Two fairly matched young teams but Westmeath missed their experienced players and Monaghan got a good twist out of theirs, smple as that.

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1140 - 02/02/2025 21:40:24    2589065

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We showed lots of heart today and younger lads in particular have applied themselves very well. We were always going to be up against it in this division with so many bodies missing. Agree that were lacking in size all over the pitch. The table speaks for itself, 10 pts still to fight for. Cork are erratic and Cavan dont seem to be going well,Meath at home we can win to. Lets stay positive

Monaghan +16 4 pt
Roscommon +9 4 pt
Meath +6 2 pt
Cork +3 2 pt
Louth 0 2 pt
Down -6 2 pt
Westmeath -10 0 pt
Cavan -18 0 pt

A_Chairde (Westmeath) - Posts: 267 - 02/02/2025 21:54:23    2589074

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Replying To A_Chairde:  "We showed lots of heart today and younger lads in particular have applied themselves very well. We were always going to be up against it in this division with so many bodies missing. Agree that were lacking in size all over the pitch. The table speaks for itself, 10 pts still to fight for. Cork are erratic and Cavan dont seem to be going well,Meath at home we can win to. Lets stay positive

Monaghan +16 4 pt
Roscommon +9 4 pt
Meath +6 2 pt
Cork +3 2 pt
Louth 0 2 pt
Down -6 2 pt
Westmeath -10 0 pt
Cavan -18 0 pt"
Agree well summarised yes few position need size but ain't all that alone pace and intelligence needed too

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 563 - 02/02/2025 22:38:31    2589088

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Replying To Eddie the Exile:  "Wasn't meant in that way. For anyone not at the match the Monaghan scoreline looked huge but my point was that play didn't really reflect that. Westmeath very much in the game until later in 2nd half and Monaghan supporters were definitely edgy. Two fairly matched young teams but Westmeath missed their experienced players and Monaghan got a good twist out of theirs, smple as that."
I accept what you say. But we are missing many of our top experienced players too such as Mohan, Woods, O'Hanlon, Ward & Bannigan. You just need a squad as every county team suffers injuries !

Shelbourne1 (Monaghan) - Posts: 366 - 02/02/2025 23:38:28    2589107

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Other counties are charging juveniles and it doesn't affect attendances. It's a Croke Park directive so no choice in matter. Division 2 in the league always promised to be difficult even without 5-6 significant absentees and our physical size is telling against us. We don't have 3-4 players of 6 ft 4 inches in stature, with the new rules and more contested kickouts it's a factor. The Meath and Cavan games will be crucial, Cork away and Roscommon look extremely difficult tasks, 5 points prob needed to stay up."
Your waffling again !! Now we need four or five 6ft 4 men that we don't have this is what management have to offer a solution to get round this. 5 points to stay up again a bit wide .

Undertheroad (Westmeath) - Posts: 70 - 03/02/2025 08:11:13    2589127

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Maybe I am wrong as I haven't given it too much in depth thought but did we miss a trick by not developing enough of players who are now around 23-26. It feels like the retired players are been replaced by guys who are very young. And while they are doing well it's pretty difficult to achieve results in division 2 during a rebuild. I would be thinking Josh Gahan, Shane Fleming and some others around that age group weren't ever really looked at by previous managements and if I'm wrong then I hold my hands up. Ciaran Daly, Jack Murtagh, Stephen McGonagle, Shane Allen, Darragh Seery, Sam Maxwell, Ben McGauran, Eamon Martin would all be about 24 now and all very good club players and played county u20s but haven't really been seen at adult level. Had we developed those in the background you'd imagine they'd be good to go by now?

OverTheHill85 (Westmeath) - Posts: 16 - 03/02/2025 11:31:51    2589168

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Replying To Undertheroad:  "Clearly Connellan not injured at it again with wrong information. Any word on backup Goalkeeper?"
Still waiting for you to name all these inter county keepers playing at club level. Surely you can name 4-5?

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1991 - 03/02/2025 13:07:54    2589195

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