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With the senior quarter finals coming up who do we think is going to be the surprise package to go far. Personally I think the Downs are a dark horse with the nippy Cunningham lad back in the fold. Cunningham alongside young Loughlin is a dangerous partnership that is sure to have the Athlone boys awake at night dreaming of their runs in behind. On the other front I can see Shamrocks going far this year and are also my sneaky pick to go the whole way this year.
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Replying To Matthew: "Niall would be a very astute appointment. He is building up an impressive CV in the club scene in the capital and is a true Westmeath gael." What's he CV read what has he won as manger in Dublin? If Westmeath are serious about appointing a manger I think it is going to be someone we all know and not a rabbit out of a hat .
Undertheroad (Westmeath) - Posts: 65 - 12/09/2024 23:16:35
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Replying To philbrown: "Has Michael O Leary ever been approached to source funding for Westmeath Gaa , a Lowry type war chest to plough in money. You need the right type of coaches and administrators involved at all levels for sure but the reality is huge money needed . Almost every top county has a major benefactor bank rolling the operation and then its all about hiring the right people . Are Offaly potentially gonna leave us behind in the next few years with the big spending ?why was cusack Park not sold during the tiger ? There was huge positivity in early 2000s and we never built on it for long term, invest in new ground , training facilities,was a chance to change the culture long term" This type of post irks me. Money does not produce players. It's BS. It's almost the opposite; spend more money in the incorrect way and we produce prima-donnas. Yes, facilities would help but to think that you can throw cash at a situation and immediately make a difference is idiotic.
fizzygravy (USA) - Posts: 163 - 13/09/2024 01:49:10
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Replying To philbrown: "Has Michael O Leary ever been approached to source funding for Westmeath Gaa , a Lowry type war chest to plough in money. You need the right type of coaches and administrators involved at all levels for sure but the reality is huge money needed . Almost every top county has a major benefactor bank rolling the operation and then its all about hiring the right people . Are Offaly potentially gonna leave us behind in the next few years with the big spending ?why was cusack Park not sold during the tiger ? There was huge positivity in early 2000s and we never built on it for long term, invest in new ground , training facilities,was a chance to change the culture long term" No Interest in GAA rugby is his sport. He isnt the type to plow money in anywhere especially if its not going to take a long time to win. We are going to be left behind with outher counties around us far more shrewd in their dealings offaly had the faithful fields before lowry every came on board.
Dazzler30 (Westmeath) - Posts: 36 - 13/09/2024 08:24:04
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Replying To Undertheroad: "What's he CV read what has he won as manger in Dublin? If Westmeath are serious about appointing a manger I think it is going to be someone we all know and not a rabbit out of a hat ." Brought Judes to championship final
LimerickForLiam24 (Limerick) - Posts: 150 - 13/09/2024 10:04:15
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Replying To Meridian: "A load of nonsense. He might be part of the management team (which would have 6 or 7 involved) but he isn't the manager. So you are proposing a selector on a management team from a Club who haven't even made the 1/4 Finals in Dublin?" Niall was the main man brought. Got Judes to county final a few years ago. Also brought coached Good Cousel/Liffey Gaels. Brought from Division 6 to 3.
LimerickForLiam24 (Limerick) - Posts: 150 - 13/09/2024 10:06:24
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Replying To Meridian: "A load of nonsense. He might be part of the management team (which would have 6 or 7 involved) but he isn't the manager. So you are proposing a selector on a management team from a Club who haven't even made the 1/4 Finals in Dublin?" Niall was the main man brought. Got Judes to county final a few years ago. Also brought coached Good Cousel/Liffey Gaels. Brought from Division 6 to 3.
LimerickForLiam24 (Limerick) - Posts: 150 - 13/09/2024 10:06:25
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Replying To fizzygravy: "This type of post irks me. Money does not produce players. It's BS. It's almost the opposite; spend more money in the incorrect way and we produce prima-donnas. Yes, facilities would help but to think that you can throw cash at a situation and immediately make a difference is idiotic." Money does help, in the long term. There is no better example than in Limerick. Limerick were at a low ebb in 2010 when the Limerick players revolted against Justin Mc Carthy as manager. JP and his brothers were sick of the carry on and so the Limerick academy was built from scratch with the right structures and coaching personnel in place from u14 right through. It wasnt necessarily to win underage titles it was that youd have players ready to compete at the highest level at senior in years to come. If it wasnt for the Limerick academy they wouldnt have five Liam Mc Carthy s in seven years.
A_Chairde (Westmeath) - Posts: 251 - 13/09/2024 12:49:12
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Senior
The Downs VS Athlone… The Downs by 8
Shamrocks VS T Pass… Shamrocks by 3
Intermediate
Tubberclair VS Multy… T Clair by 2
St Mary's VS Rosemount… St Mary's by 1 (AET)
Junior
Lomans VS Ballycomoyle… Lomans by 10+
Shamrocks VS Joseph's… Joseph's by 2
The Downs VS Bun… Bun by 1
Kinnegad VS CFCW… CFCW by 5
Junior II
Garrycastle VS Shamrocks … G Castle by 10+
Caulry VS Loughnavally… Caulry by 10+
Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 518 - 13/09/2024 13:16:57
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Replying To LimerickForLiam24: "Niall was the main man brought. Got Judes to county final a few years ago. Also brought coached Good Cousel/Liffey Gaels. Brought from Division 6 to 3." That team was led by Gareth Roche,assisted by Andy Sweeny,Gerry Carty,Shane Guckian,Kevin Downs,Naill Broderick, Warren Linnie and Enda Dalton which can be read on St Judes website . How u make him main man is a bit silly . No doubt he has a love for the game but Senior football Manager in Westmeath I don't think so !!
Undertheroad (Westmeath) - Posts: 65 - 13/09/2024 13:45:58
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Replying To Temple56: "Senior
The Downs VS Athlone… The Downs by 8
Shamrocks VS T Pass… Shamrocks by 3
Intermediate
Tubberclair VS Multy… T Clair by 2
St Mary's VS Rosemount… St Mary's by 1 (AET)
Junior
Lomans VS Ballycomoyle… Lomans by 10+
Shamrocks VS Joseph's… Joseph's by 2
The Downs VS Bun… Bun by 1
Kinnegad VS CFCW… CFCW by 5
Junior II
Garrycastle VS Shamrocks … G Castle by 10+
Caulry VS Loughnavally… Caulry by 10+" Would fancy Rosemount to beat the bridge and the Downs Athlone to be a bit tighter but agree with the rest
Bluelake (Westmeath) - Posts: 185 - 13/09/2024 14:31:05
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Replying To LimerickForLiam24: "Brought Judes to championship final" When did he bring Judes to Championship final as a Manager?
Meridian (Westmeath) - Posts: 663 - 13/09/2024 15:53:15
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Senior
The Downs VS Athlone… The Downs
Shamrocks VS T Pass… Shamrocks
Intermediate
Tubberclaire VS Multy… Tubberclaire
St Mary's VS Rosemount… Rosemount
Junior
Lomans VS Ballycomoyle… Lomans
Shamrocks VS Joseph's… Josephs
The Downs VS Bun… The Downs
Kinnegad VS CFCW… CFCW
All the indicators would suggest that the two teams from Senior section B are in the ascendancy again and should get over the line in their quarter final. I would still expect Lomans to take the overall prize in a few weeks time, but their biggest challenge will be from these two teams and Shamrocks especially going well enough to rattle their cage.
In the intermediate Tubberclaire and Rosemount to progress to the semis. Rosemount will be physically too strong for the Bridge. I think that Tubberclaire have it in them to go all the way, especially now they seem to be getting the defensive balance right to go with their undoubted attacking ability. They're best placed to scupper Garrycastles immediate return to senior.
Sticking with the form book in the Junior grade except for the Bunbrosna v Downs game, I just have a feeling that Bunbrosna are just scraping through games and going to be caught out. Out from that I can't see Lomans being beaten this year, they'll definitely breeze past a very poor Ballycomoyle outfit who had an embarrassing defeat in the last game to CFCW… to only score a total of 1 point in a championship match when you're still in the competition is a disgrace. CFCW the only ones who might trouble Lomans procession at this grade.
CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 332 - 13/09/2024 17:26:41
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Replying To fizzygravy: "This type of post irks me. Money does not produce players. It's BS. It's almost the opposite; spend more money in the incorrect way and we produce prima-donnas. Yes, facilities would help but to think that you can throw cash at a situation and immediately make a difference is idiotic." How is it idiotic to say money is a significant factor for any county to be successful ? You obviously need the right calibre of people in administration and coaching positions. Any of the top successful counties even those down the divisions spend huge money . Centers of excellence , coaching , managers and management teams all cost money
philbrown (Westmeath) - Posts: 236 - 13/09/2024 18:33:17
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Replying To philbrown: "How is it idiotic to say money is a significant factor for any county to be successful ? You obviously need the right calibre of people in administration and coaching positions. Any of the top successful counties even those down the divisions spend huge money . Centers of excellence , coaching , managers and management teams all cost money" As you said: 'even those down the divisions spend huge money' - why are they still down the divisions if money is the solution?
We spend enough money as it is running our county teams - of course a centre of excellence will be fantastic to have when it materialises and a booster would expedite that realisation. However; I don't think our footballers or hurlers are wanting for anything which would immediately translate to better performance.
If you had a bursary of €500K right now how would you spend it (above and beyond the current spend) that would impact where we are nationally in the pecking order?
fizzygravy (USA) - Posts: 163 - 13/09/2024 21:32:18
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Senior
The Downs VS Athlone… The Downs 3
Shamrocks VS T Pass… Shams 5
Intermediate
Tubberclair VS Multy… Multy 2
St Mary's VS Rosemount… Rosemount 3
Junior
Lomans VS Ballycomoyle… Lomans by 9
Shamrocks VS Joseph's… Joseph's by 2
The Downs VS Bun… Bun by 5
Kinnegad VS CFCW… CFCW by 5
Junior II
Garrycastle VS Shamrocks … G Castle by 10+
Caulry VS Loughnavally… Loughnavally 2
Fancy the downs in this game- - Athlone's performance has been mixed, with one victory, one loss, and three draws. Their defense has been relatively solid, as they've only conceded 61 points, but they've struggled to convert matches into wins.
Mullingar Shamrocks have been excellent on both ends of the field, scoring heavily while keeping teams to low scores.
Tyrrellspass have a dangerous forward line but are vulnerable defensively, which could be exposed by Mullingar's efficient attack.
Tubberclair's scoring average 16, Multy 14- Multy have a strong defensive set up- Tubberclair's half back line is as good as any team, but same can be said for Multys half forward line- I went with Multy cause of the Ronan Wallace factor- playing outrageous football .
Rosemont have been well managed and playing great football - They are hard to beat.
Haven't got to watch much Junior football- Hoping to see a few games this weekend
Leftboothaey (Westmeath) - Posts: 35 - 14/09/2024 07:55:53
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Going with a win for both Section A teams this weekend:
Athlone to win
Tyrellspass to win
WmeathWarrior (Westmeath) - Posts: 65 - 14/09/2024 12:20:08
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The Downs to beat Athlone. I think The Downs are real dark horses to win the championship.
I don't think there will be much between Tyrellspass and Shamrocks. I wouldn't rule out a draw here and after extra time who knows
Multyfarnham to beat Tubberclair and Rosemount to beat St Mary's in Intermediate
mintyfresh (Westmeath) - Posts: 251 - 14/09/2024 12:53:15
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Replying To mintyfresh: "The Downs to beat Athlone. I think The Downs are real dark horses to win the championship.
I don't think there will be much between Tyrellspass and Shamrocks. I wouldn't rule out a draw here and after extra time who knows
Multyfarnham to beat Tubberclair and Rosemount to beat St Mary's in Intermediate" The Downs got the wake up call against Shamrocks. Both sides to meet again in Final....??
Greenandgoldie (Westmeath) - Posts: 154 - 14/09/2024 13:43:12
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Replying To fizzygravy: "As you said: 'even those down the divisions spend huge money' - why are they still down the divisions if money is the solution?
We spend enough money as it is running our county teams - of course a centre of excellence will be fantastic to have when it materialises and a booster would expedite that realisation. However; I don't think our footballers or hurlers are wanting for anything which would immediately translate to better performance.
If you had a bursary of €500K right now how would you spend it (above and beyond the current spend) that would impact where we are nationally in the pecking order?" I never said money was solely the solution. I've clearly stated that ,money + right calibre of coaches + high calibre administrators = chances increase of possible success for any team. Its not a guarantee of success but it gives a foundation to provide a chance of success. We should have center of excellence in place long ago. The delay aswel in hiring a county manager is hugely frustrating aswel . Not a simple task need someone in place soon
philbrown (Westmeath) - Posts: 236 - 14/09/2024 16:16:07
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