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Replying To jobber:  "I dont deny we were beaten by a better team but have serious doubts about events elsewhere."
Make no mistake Kilkenny are Kilkenny . They rightly look after themselves and they came to bury us yesterday. Thankfully our lads produced their best performance of the year to win and they had to, to get over the line

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 444 - 29/05/2023 10:39:06    2482480

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Replying To Jedobi:  "If you had beaten Antrim playing at home and you were leading at half time, be no mention of all the conspiracy theories. Kilkenny would love nothing more than get Wexford relegated. You won last week, lost this week. And tbh it was Wexford losing the game last week more than Westmeath winning it."
The only thing worse than a sore loser is a sore winner. Wexford and Antrim had their backs against the wall and fought hard to get out of it. Fair dues to both team for pulling It off.
Disappointing for Westmeath.

35OLT (USA) - Posts: 72 - 29/05/2023 10:44:32    2482482

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Replying To Jedobi:  "If you had beaten Antrim playing at home and you were leading at half time, be no mention of all the conspiracy theories. Kilkenny would love nothing more than get Wexford relegated. You won last week, lost this week. And tbh it was Wexford losing the game last week more than Westmeath winning it."
Have to disagree there lots of kilkenny people did not want Wexford to go down didn't think it would be good for leinster hurling.Thats not saying they would do us any favours though.

Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 175 - 29/05/2023 10:51:07    2482485

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Replying To MillerX:  "Great, great result for Westmeath. Hard to know about next week. I'd definitely go for it, win and you are definitely safe, lose and you're safe on the head-to-head, PROVIDED Kilkenny beat Wexford!!!!! Do you trust Kilkenny that much? I wouldn't even though they need the win to reach the Leinster final. Do it for yourselves."
Don't want to say I got it right but last Sunday evening I had a feeling that the unpredictable was going to happen and that Westmeath were going to HAVE to beat Antrim to stay up. As for the Kilkenny performance? Well Offaly thought they played it cute by putting out a shadow team against Carlow in the round robin game and it came back to bite them in the rear end. Never pays to be too smart. The game against Wexford shows what can be achieved but then the focus must switch to the next game, I feel that this may not have been the case yesterday.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 986 - 29/05/2023 12:26:53    2482517

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Replying To Tiger1:  "Have to disagree there lots of kilkenny people did not want Wexford to go down didn't think it would be good for leinster hurling.Thats not saying they would do us any favours though."
Kilkenny supporters around me didn't fall into that group.

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 444 - 29/05/2023 12:41:25    2482525

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Replying To MillerX:  "Don't want to say I got it right but last Sunday evening I had a feeling that the unpredictable was going to happen and that Westmeath were going to HAVE to beat Antrim to stay up. As for the Kilkenny performance? Well Offaly thought they played it cute by putting out a shadow team against Carlow in the round robin game and it came back to bite them in the rear end. Never pays to be too smart. The game against Wexford shows what can be achieved but then the focus must switch to the next game, I feel that this may not have been the case yesterday."
What exactly are implying about Kilkenny in that cryptic post?

Joe1 (Kildare) - Posts: 43 - 29/05/2023 13:09:17    2482537

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Replying To preddan:  "Are you saying something further at play here, were the gaas powers that be sweating if wexford finished bottom. If they did it was going to be an almighty headache if a so called elite county taking the drop and deal with an outcry of hurling elitists. It suited them antrim or westmeath going down and nothing said. I definitely don't think kilkenny were going full pelt today either"
Did I see you at the match or did someone just tell you that?

Joe1 (Kildare) - Posts: 43 - 29/05/2023 13:21:18    2482544

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Replying To MillerX:  "Don't want to say I got it right but last Sunday evening I had a feeling that the unpredictable was going to happen and that Westmeath were going to HAVE to beat Antrim to stay up. As for the Kilkenny performance? Well Offaly thought they played it cute by putting out a shadow team against Carlow in the round robin game and it came back to bite them in the rear end. Never pays to be too smart. The game against Wexford shows what can be achieved but then the focus must switch to the next game, I feel that this may not have been the case yesterday."
Kilkenny started their best team and 3 of their better players had to go off injured. That wouldn't have happened if they were taking it easy. Shame it wasn't on TV it was as tough a game as any I've seen in Munster so far this year. And nothing like Galways games against us or Kilkenny.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 8437 - 29/05/2023 13:28:24    2482547

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Replying To jobber:  "I dont agree we needed to stay up however we could. Some of The worst players were stars of top clubs.Wedidnt deserve to win today Antrim were better but why was the game in Wexford held up for 10 minutes and why was Kilkenny's goal at the end disallowed.These are legitimate questions and should be asked."
Wexford's point difference over the 5 games was -4, Westmeath's was -80 which says it all, realistically Wexford took their eye of the ball at half time vs Westmeath and fair play to ye for taking advantage of that. Joe McDonagh will be tough next year but ye have the tools to come straight back up and from what I saw vs Wexford plenty of talent on your u20 team who can hopefully come through over the next few years.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 922 - 29/05/2023 13:36:34    2482551

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Replying To Left Full:  "Too many excuses on here. We had it in our own hands today, win and we're safe but it was a terrible performance especially in the second half. Massive win last weekend but looks like the players thought they were above Antrim & got caught badly today. Joe Fortune was a legend last week & now we have lads looking for him to go??? Players need to man up, we have an excellent coach in J Greville & if Joe steps away I think he should take it on. We're Div 1 gain in the league & while the Joe McD Cup will be tough we should be well able to bounce back."
I have the height of respect for Joe Fortune, won division 2 and kept us there this year. Kept us in the Leinster championship last year, wouldn't be surprised if he moves on to his native Wexford for 2024. Antrim were always going to beat us, we'd struggle to beat Dunloy, especially without Killian & Aonghus. As for this year we finished on -80, that's an average beating of 19.5 points in the 4 games we lost. Carlow & Offaly look ahead of us too, a playoff against Carlow would be interesting. Would a round robin Leinster championship and then go into a knockout Joe McDonagh be the answer to playing good teams every year?

stonemadbeany (USA) - Posts: 480 - 29/05/2023 13:40:18    2482556

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Replying To stonemadbeany:  "I have the height of respect for Joe Fortune, won division 2 and kept us there this year. Kept us in the Leinster championship last year, wouldn't be surprised if he moves on to his native Wexford for 2024. Antrim were always going to beat us, we'd struggle to beat Dunloy, especially without Killian & Aonghus. As for this year we finished on -80, that's an average beating of 19.5 points in the 4 games we lost. Carlow & Offaly look ahead of us too, a playoff against Carlow would be interesting. Would a round robin Leinster championship and then go into a knockout Joe McDonagh be the answer to playing good teams every year?"
You eliminate provincial championships and move 100% to a tiered All Ireland model with promotion/relegation (same as Senior/Intermediate/Junior). No play-offs. Get rid of Div1 A/B in the league and make a single Division 1 group. Drop several teams to Div 2 (Dublin, Antrim, Wexford). Make relegation mean something and also give more competitive games for the likes of Westmeath/Laois/Carlow/Kerry with Wexford, Antrim and Dublin. In the current format, you occasionally see Westmeath/Antrim/Laois/Carlow will scare or trim a "big" team in Div 1, but they're being brushed aside the rest of the time.

Hurling is a bit like the 6 nations in that it's the same big teams under no pressure. Italy on the odd occasion like this year stand up and have a good group of players. However, they've no threat of relegation at all. There's a small chance of relegation in hurling for a big team but it really is small.

gedupoutofit (Westmeath) - Posts: 156 - 30/05/2023 11:24:46    2482822

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