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Certainly does talk the talk.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1487 - 11/03/2025 18:35:40 2595986 Link 1 |
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I'm no fan of Oisin as a manager. I don't believe he is top drawer but i don't blame the manager entirely. I don't believe we have players good enough. This year's division 4 is pretty ordinary and we are making very hard work of being in the promotion conversation. I believe our problem is at club level. Also, while we were once strong at vocational schools level our presence is now non existent on the schools front. The manager in conjunction with the county board has brought in Frankie Dolan to work with our fowards while Oisin himself was a top forward, yet we are average in our forwards play - the rule changes are designed for high scoring, yet we score 4 points in a half of football. No team at intercounty level will win promotion at this rate.
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 2069 - 11/03/2025 21:18:39 2596007 Link 1 |
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What puzzles me most is the continual switching and shuffling and changing of the team. This team has had two ways of playing for a while now. Very good, or very poor. Consistency is non existent. Then we look at the personnel. No players from Rathnew who are top of the league., 2 from Pats, 2/3 from Balto and Blesso, that's fair enough. 2? From Gers and also 2 from Barndarrig. Big difference in population there. 1 from Eire Og, albeit a top drawer one. Bray ?? 5 from Tochair - who have failed to make a meaningful impression in the championship when it gets to knockout. Are there others out there who people feel should be involved and aren't for whatever reason?
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1487 - 12/03/2025 10:26:16 2596045 Link 0 |
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The continuous changing is a problem but Oisin might say he's trying to find his best team. In relation to Rathnew having no players on the team-squad, i have to say after seeing Rathnew in the championship, i couldn't pick a Rathnew player to play for the county who would improve on what players Oisin is currently picking. I think the fact that an average Rathnew team is top of the league and reaches thd latter stages of the championship emphasise my point that club football in Wicklow is mediocre at present. We have very average players to pick from. I accept your point about the An Tochar players - they're nice players to watch but i wouldn't expect those same players to grind out a result or close out an important game. In Oisin's first game in this year's league he picked not one player from the thirty players that played in the county final which i find hard to fathom.
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 2069 - 12/03/2025 11:05:16 2596049 Link 1 |
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Senior final was mediocre at best. An Tóchar and AGB have far better footballers and will prove this
heavyheart19 (Wicklow) - Posts: 151 - 12/03/2025 16:03:03 2596107 Link 0 |
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The consenus seems to be that AGB and An Tochar will breakthrough. Yes they have some nice players on the eye but the pressure is on them to produce in the way Rathnew and Baltinglass have done. There is a number of class at a certain level but no team seems to have the quality to rise above the rest. With a few exception teams can beat one another on any given day. Kiltegan have avhieved more than AGB and An Tochar in recent years at senior level.
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 2069 - 12/03/2025 19:47:19 2596141 Link 0 |
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1 senior championship in their combined history , this post really shows the arrogance of these two clubs and their supporter's ,might also explain why they win very little.
Albundy19 (Wicklow) - Posts: 84 - 12/03/2025 20:07:12 2596144 Link 0 |
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Jeez. There you go again, o think we have seen similar here last year. . I'm a GAA supporter and not from either of those clubs so it's no skin off my nose, but you seem to have a bit of a complex about certain clubs - and even supporters ?? I've been to hundreds of games over the course of my lifetime as a player, selector and as a supporter and while you get a small handful of over excitable supporters of the teams at most games, I have to say I have never encountered "arrogance" anywhere along the east coast anyway, and I'm sure the rest of the county is the same. Certainly not among supporters. Maybe you should relax and get out more. Get that plank off your shoulder. Go watch games where your own club isn't involved. You might be surprised at what you find.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1487 - 13/03/2025 08:36:51 2596180 Link 0 |
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Yes, have to agree this year been a little under whelming from the team, I kinda hoped they kick on after a pretty good outing in the taltain cup last year. An argument about where the players are from I dont really think holds up. As i dont think Mcconvile has any great alliances to any local club. Maybe it is fair to say for 50/50 calls Mcconvile has gone with the younger players. Some one asked the questions what players are out there that should be on the team and as yet there no response. Players who caught my eye in recent years maybe Hurley in AGB, Cullen and Byrne (not sure after injury) in Avondale, Sean Doyle in Dunlavin but I am sure people will disagree on them. Like bigger issues is yes there should be more players from the population areas on the east coast but who are they. Again in the last 3 years club championship i could make the case the player of the year being John Mcgrath, Mcloughlin or Stafford and Kelly or McWalters with an average age that i would think would be closer to 40 than 30.
Groundskeeper5 (Wicklow) - Posts: 33 - 13/03/2025 10:14:16 2596205 Link 0 |
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In fairness these clubs have won minors and u20's in recent years which is more relevant.
Groundskeeper5 (Wicklow) - Posts: 33 - 13/03/2025 10:21:44 2596207 Link 0 |
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There I go again?
Albundy19 (Wicklow) - Posts: 84 - 13/03/2025 13:33:24 2596241 Link 0 |
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There was a similar post on here last year with similar sentiments about a few clubs. Apologies if it wasn't you - but the rest stands.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1487 - 13/03/2025 13:59:35 2596247 Link 0 |