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These rules have the potential to damage football beyond repair the only thing that should have been trialled was 13 a side at junior club level only for 1 year would have given small clubs a better chance to field and kept the same rules this amount of rule changes in one go is pure lunacy
Sinbin (Wicklow) - Posts: 19 - 09/01/2025 20:45:49 2585257 Link 0 |
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It's not 3 back it's 3 up…. you can have 12 back if you want…
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3259 - 09/01/2025 21:23:46 2585263 Link 0 |
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Probably you are right but I think that confusion was the game on Sunday with Kildare, Galway, D Gough and spectators. That's where I read the 3/3 rule. But, if you could clarify, is it not the case that if my team are going forward, I have to keep 3 back ??
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1325 - 09/01/2025 22:09:38 2585270 Link 0 |
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There has to be three forwards in the opponents half of the field. So if Wicklow were playing Carlow today and Carlow are attacking the Wicklow goal, Wicklow have to have three players in Carlow's half of the field. The rules will take some adapting to and in my opinion there should be no need for them but unfortunately coaches and managers destroyed the game with their over emphasis on defensive play to the exclusion of football. In particular I'd blame the northern counties who were very focused on a rugby league style lines of players across the field. This style was successful for a number of counties winning All Ireland particular Armagh in 2024 but the game as a speculate was horrendous to watch. I don't think players and managers should be afraid of the new rules. I think the new rules will benefit teams that have the ability to transfer the ball quickly and can score from out the field. There will be more space available to forwards. There will be an extra onus on referees to officiate the game.
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 2037 - 10/01/2025 09:15:09 2585299 Link 0 |
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Ok, let's go back to this 3 up or back hypothetical game with Carlow. If Carlow are attacking, we have to keep 3 up front ? So, if Carlow don't keep 2/3 back to cover our, and the ball gets turned over, they are completely exposed to a quick ball in to our forwards - or am I overthinking this ?
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1325 - 10/01/2025 11:00:42 2585317 Link 0 |
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As far as I know a team can only have twelve players defending and one player must be the goalie. The only scenario where an attacking team can outnumber the defending team is if the attacking team's goalkeeper joins in past the half way line. The reason I specify the half way line is because an outfield player can't pass the ball to their goalkeeper in their own half but they can pass the ball to the goalkeeper in the opponent half of the field. I think they may change that particular rule at some stage.
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 2037 - 10/01/2025 12:00:07 2585333 Link 0 |
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Gaelic football needed changes but now we have a raft of changes which in my opinion are far too many at one time. I feel it will be impossible for one referee to oversee all these changes while still trying to keep the game flowing. How can he keep tabs on 3 forwards keeping to the designated area of the field or adjudicate that a player hadn't a foot the wrong side of the line before he received the ball.etc etc. What constitutes dissent ? A shrug of the shoulders ?...The time wasted bringing the ball forward 50 metres? How many times will that happen in a game to disrupt any continuity to a game ? Imagine trying to implement all the new rules on a wet winters night in a clubs grounds where at the moment in many cases the referee cant find umpires and linesmen and the pitch isn't clearly marked out. In my opinion the biggest bore in gaelic football was the incessant use of the handpass. The stats of games analysed clearly showed hundres of handpasses compares to a few dozen kickpasses. It is football after all and I think the gaa have now further diluted the game and skills we used to call gaelic football. I fear that many referees will now give up as they will face more abuse and criticism from pundits and the sideline. How many games will now end in controversy. Optimisticobserver (Wicklow) - Posts: 134 - 10/01/2025 20:09:35 2585407 Link 0 |
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It will indeed be an interesting year on the club front trying to police these new rules, particularly the 3 up or back or whatever. The dissent 50mt rule has the potential to be a greater disaster. We all know that certain refs have clubs who they don't seem to like - could be lots of fun with this. As someone has pointed out, what is dissent ?? We all know that shouting your displeasure at a refs decision is wrong and needs to be punished but 50mts ? and would a shrug of the shoulders or a shake of the head also qualify as dissent with some refs. Then as also been pointed out, a junior match with no neutral umpires, who will call if it is a one or two pointer ??
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1325 - 11/01/2025 09:25:39 2585449 Link 0 |
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People worried about scoring 2 pointers at junior level. There maybe 1 or 2 scored per game. Won't be an issue. willielee (Wicklow) - Posts: 42 - 13/01/2025 11:36:48 2585705 Link 0 |
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Its the, lets say, "non-neutral" umpires that'll be looking to put up the 2 pointer regardless of where it's kicked from that's going to be the issue!!!
Hawkeye2 (Wicklow) - Posts: 144 - 13/01/2025 14:03:56 2585728 Link 0 |
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Ah hear what are you all on about it shows no one on hear has anything to do with gaa in this county The umpire has no decision to make the ref decides if it s outside the zone. The umpire has to rise the white flag if it goes over and then waits and then the ref rises his hands if it was outside so then the uprise puts up the red flag. Pat Mustard (None) - Posts: 389 - 13/01/2025 20:38:55 2585777 Link 0 |
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A fountain of knowledge as always.
heavyheart19 (Wicklow) - Posts: 146 - 13/01/2025 22:16:33 2585789 Link 0 |
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Hardly worried Willie Lee. It's just a comment re how these new rules will filter down.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1325 - 13/01/2025 22:51:23 2585792 Link 0 |
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Just goes to show that you can't follow what's going on as usual PM. Just read the posts. This conversation has nothing to do with who has or hasn't an idea of football or gaa in the county. Or whether they are involved in it or not. It is a good point about the ref calling it and the umpire then putting up the 2 pointer. You can explain all that to the 60plus yr old ref at a Jun C match on a wet night at the end of April when it's nearly dark. I'm sure they will be only too delighted to get a bit of guidance from you.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1325 - 13/01/2025 22:59:05 2585794 Link 0 |
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You've only posted 389 times on this forum, seems like you posted more often. Anyway, some amount of wisdom in each of those posts. Glad to see the new year hasn't dimmed your ability to have a go at other posters.
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 2037 - 14/01/2025 12:31:04 2585835 Link 0 |