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What a weekend of football..
Baltinglass scrapping over the line - Both teams very careless on front of goal. AGB sloppy at times but Balto as equal in that

Dunlavin - Wow just wow, incredible comeback and fair play to them, Great to see them in the business end. Very poor from An Tochar letting a ten point lead slip like that. When will they learn!

Kiltegan with the wind in the second half beating eire og - Wind played huge factor over weekend.

Tinahely with a standout performance over the weekend - huge battle v rathnew who just dont have scoring forwards - Route one to inside never came off.

3 teams in Senior championship semi final not even playing in Division 1 this year. Makes you think...Looking forward to the draw.

WicklowB1973 (Wicklow) - Posts: 6 - 16/09/2024 15:12:59    2570170

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Replying To wicklowsupport:  "There'll be a lot of heads scratched in Roundwood in the weeks and months ahead. They'll be wondering how a team who were ten points ahead early in the second half, would collapse in the final twenty minutes. Fair play to Dunlavin, they showed unbelievable fighting spirit and who would have thought that an old fashion tactic of playing a target man at full forward with two lively forwards playing off him, still have a place in the modern day game of gaelic football. This is exactly what Dunlavin did and it caused chaos in An Tochar's backline. An Tochar's reputation of not producing when the pressure is on, is alive and well after yesterday.

I was impressed by Tinahely in the second game against Rathnew. Overall they were superior to Rathnew in all areas. Some people in the grounds were surprised that Rathnew was beaten but based upon what I saw previously; I wasn't surprised. The only surprise to me was Rathnew going down without much of a fight. They lack forwards to win a championship, so they'll need to address this area in the months and years ahead if they want to return to the summit.

The championship is wide open. I'd assume that Tinahely will be the new favourites although some people will say Baltinglass. I don't rate this current Baltinglass team as they are dependent on Mark Jackson's frees and John McGrath's guile. If kept apart, I'd expect the final to be between Tinhealy and Kiltegan but I wouldn't put too much money on it."
You may be right about Baltinglasses dependency on John McGrath and Mark Jackson but I wouldn't rule Baltinglass out of the running just based on that. They're still motoring along nicely even while not having young prospect Hugh O'Toole fully fit yet. He's only played a couple of games so far at half fitness and had a stormer in both games so when he's fully fit he's a serious contender for best full back in the county. Plus my sources tell me he'll be back doing full contact in training this week ( . This coming from a Kilcoole man now living in Carlow for those of you who'll want to call me biased.

Gardencounty4Sam (Wicklow) - Posts: 1 - 16/09/2024 15:15:48    2570172

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What a weekend of football..
Baltinglass scrapping over the line - Both teams very careless on front of goal. AGB sloppy at times but Balto as equal in that

Dunlavin - Wow just wow, incredible comeback and fair play to them, Great to see them in the business end. Very poor from An Tochar letting a ten point lead slip like that. When will they learn!

Kiltegan with the wind in the second half beating eire og - Wind played huge factor over weekend.

Tinahely with a standout performance over the weekend - huge battle v rathnew who just dont have scoring forwards - Route one to inside never came off.

3 teams in Senior championship semi final not even playing in Division 1 this year. Makes you think...Looking forward to the draw.

WicklowB1973 (Wicklow) - Posts: 6 - 16/09/2024 15:20:13    2570173

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Replying To WestWicklow14:  "Three teams from the West heading for semi finals showing again where the strength is in the county, which is not reflected on the county panel selections. Two big upsets in Tinahely and Dunalvin getting the job done and both will have nothing to fear with both now looking at a huge chance of getting a county title. Few would have called at the start of the year semi finals that had no Blesso, Rathnew or AGB."
Are there any obvious players in the west who arent on the senior county panel - blesso balto dunlavin all contribute well?ANy other clubs (Intermediate / Junior A) who have players at that standard who are not involved?

Wicklowmen (Wicklow) - Posts: 9 - 16/09/2024 16:22:00    2570198

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Replying To Wicklowmen:  "Are there any obvious players in the west who arent on the senior county panel - blesso balto dunlavin all contribute well?ANy other clubs (Intermediate / Junior A) who have players at that standard who are not involved?"
Balto have 2, dunlavin 2 and blesso 2/3. Baltinglass and Blesso should be contributing more to Wicklow panels - But they do have twice the travel distance to Ballinakill compared to Rathnew/AGB/Pats/Roundwood!

I would say thats a reason for commitment!

WicklowB1973 (Wicklow) - Posts: 6 - 16/09/2024 16:29:58    2570201

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Replying To WicklowB1973:  "Balto have 2, dunlavin 2 and blesso 2/3. Baltinglass and Blesso should be contributing more to Wicklow panels - But they do have twice the travel distance to Ballinakill compared to Rathnew/AGB/Pats/Roundwood!

I would say thats a reason for commitment!"
Dunlavin were awesome, didn't see it coming and delighted to see such an open championship.
An Tochar with all their talent possibly looked to the semi final too early.

Tinahely winning in hindsight makes sense, Rathnew could only carry on with a skeleton squad for so long.

Agb were sloppy, poor tactically again, such a poor return from the squad they have.
Management have stepped away already, maybe it will never happen.
Baltinglass have history and some quality but not sure it will be enough this year.

Kiltegan need Finn back on all cylinders to have a fighters chance of reclaiming the championship.
Eire Og had a great season and will push on next year with more young lads to boost their group.

Looking forward to the semi finals now.

willielee (Wicklow) - Posts: 41 - 16/09/2024 17:36:39    2570220

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Replying To WicklowB1973:  "Balto have 2, dunlavin 2 and blesso 2/3. Baltinglass and Blesso should be contributing more to Wicklow panels - But they do have twice the travel distance to Ballinakill compared to Rathnew/AGB/Pats/Roundwood!

I would say thats a reason for commitment!"
I can never figure what kind of a rush of blood brought about the location for the centre of excellence. Maybe wherever it had been sited would have meant a fair bit of travel for some. Blesso, Balto, Kiltegan and Dunlavin are a fair old distance from Rathdrum. Same for say Shillelagh, Coolboy , Coolkenno, Carnew and a few even further afield. That's a fair commitment particularly in the middle of winter. I wonder how counties like Cork manage.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1174 - 16/09/2024 19:26:59    2570234

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Replying To Freethinker:  "I can never figure what kind of a rush of blood brought about the location for the centre of excellence. Maybe wherever it had been sited would have meant a fair bit of travel for some. Blesso, Balto, Kiltegan and Dunlavin are a fair old distance from Rathdrum. Same for say Shillelagh, Coolboy , Coolkenno, Carnew and a few even further afield. That's a fair commitment particularly in the middle of winter. I wonder how counties like Cork manage."
What is so special about having a centre of excellence? I never understood the principle especially given the cost of building them. I think they are a complete waste of money. The only valid reason I can think might apply in logical terms is collaboration between different development squads. I would think that there is very little collaboration in our own county but this might be unfair comment. I think with the facilities available throughout the county that any training that is done on grass could be rotated around the county. This might help with recruiting some of the players who refuse to join up with the various county teams. Driving to Aughrim from Kildare is not a pleasant experience; the roads are some of the worse I've driven on and I've driven throughout Ireland and aboard. A county like Wicklow needs as many top players playing for the county as we can get. It really is time that as a county we began thinking for ourselves instead of needlessly following what other counties have done in the hope that it will work. We need to find a way to compete and develop players beginning with examining what we are asking amateur players to do as is the case currently. I think this applies to a significant number of counties and not just our own.

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1985 - 16/09/2024 19:47:01    2570236

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Just seen the draws for the championships. My picks for the finals are
Senior. Kiltegan v Tinahely
Intermediate. Avondale v Annacurra.
Junior A. Kilmac v Ashford
Junior B. Avoca. v Newcastle.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1174 - 16/09/2024 21:15:22    2570252

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Replying To Wicklowmen:  "Are there any obvious players in the west who arent on the senior county panel - blesso balto dunlavin all contribute well?ANy other clubs (Intermediate / Junior A) who have players at that standard who are not involved?"
The West teams are overlooked in Wicklow GAA that's just a fact and has been for years. West teams dominated underage for years and it was the same old story Pats, AGB, Bray, Rathnew is all that Wicklow GAA wanted to know about. Outside of Mark Jackson every position could have plenty of competition and with alot of them from teams in the west. Revamp needed at the county level and some interest shown in the teams performing at the top end of Club football, how much recognition will be shown to the remaining West teams in the intermediate and senior grades at county level? Very little.

WestWicklow14 (Wicklow) - Posts: 8 - 16/09/2024 22:03:48    2570259

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Replying To Freethinker:  "Just seen the draws for the championships. My picks for the finals are
Senior. Kiltegan v Tinahely
Intermediate. Avondale v Annacurra.
Junior A. Kilmac v Ashford
Junior B. Avoca. v Newcastle."
What is the draw for the semi final, Freethinker? or where is the semi final pairings posted?

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1985 - 17/09/2024 09:15:06    2570292

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Replying To wicklowsupport:  "What is the draw for the semi final, Freethinker? or where is the semi final pairings posted?"
Senior
Balto v Kiltegan
Dunlavin v Tinahely

Intermediate
Avondale v Carnew
Hollywood v Annacurra

Jun A
Ashford v Shillelagh
Kilmac v Aughrim.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1174 - 17/09/2024 10:24:41    2570310

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The semifinals of the senior football championship pose some interesting thoughts. Most punters may now see Tinahely as bringing home Miley after their all round performance against Rathnew but the Village are only a shadow of their former selves and their only plan last week was to land high balls into the edge of the square with little reward. However Tinahely picked up where they left off in their second half performance against an Tochar. The question is can they continue with such performances or will old inconsistences return. Dunlavin put in a huge performance for a team that many had down for relegation at the beginning of the year. However the high ball into the full forward line will not work ginst Tinahely as Rathnew discovered. The absence of O Sullivan may be very costly to Dunlavin as their options will be limited. Tinahely to make the final with something to spare .
Kiltegan and Baltinglass have thrown up a tremendous local derby pairing with braggging rights for the winner. The recent meeting wil have no bearing on this game as the game in Blessington looked like a challenge game with space galore all over the pitch. Baltinglass have the big concern that their scoring rate is abysmal . Their reliance upon Jackson can only carry them so far and Kiltegan will be careful not to foul within 50 metres to reduce his shots on goal..Baltinglass are due a good game and maybe the local rivalry will produce that.Kiltegan will look to Boland OToole Finn and Furlong to carry the over the line but Baltinglass will make them work hard and force them to move the ball through the lines. Kiltegans full back line looked slow last weekend and were far off their opponents. If Baltinglass employ fast forwars in the inside line or isolate the full back line then Kiltegan will bi in bother. I think Baltinglass will shade it but only if there is a massive improvement

Optimisticobserver (Wicklow) - Posts: 128 - 17/09/2024 10:44:29    2570315

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Replying To wicklowsupport:  "What is the draw for the semi final, Freethinker? or where is the semi final pairings posted?"
They had them up on Facebook last night.

Football Championship semi-final draws:

SFC:

Baltinglass v Kiltegan

Tinahely v Dunlavin

IFC

Avondale v Carnew

Annacurra v Hollywood

JAFC

Kilmac v Aughrim

Shillelagh-Coolboy v Ashford

JBFC

Avoca v Knockananna

Newcastle v Tinahely

FrankieJoe (Wicklow) - Posts: 85 - 17/09/2024 10:49:14    2570320

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Replying To Freethinker:  "Senior
Balto v Kiltegan
Dunlavin v Tinahely

Intermediate
Avondale v Carnew
Hollywood v Annacurra

Jun A
Ashford v Shillelagh
Kilmac v Aughrim."
Balto v Tinahely final for me - As mentioned above Kiltegan game earlier in group with Balto looked like a challenge game with Balto nothing to play for.

Tinahely have brilliant forwards and be tough to keep quiet and being too much for Dunlavin who will bring it right to the very end.

If the baltinglass we seen against blesso and tinahely they will go all the way - otherwise in other games they wont with tinahely hitting form at the right time i think with a brilliant win against Rathnew

Dunlavin will be well up for this game - Intriguing to say the least!

WicklowB1973 (Wicklow) - Posts: 6 - 17/09/2024 12:06:19    2570345

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Replying To Freethinker:  "Senior
Balto v Kiltegan
Dunlavin v Tinahely

Intermediate
Avondale v Carnew
Hollywood v Annacurra

Jun A
Ashford v Shillelagh
Kilmac v Aughrim."
Thank you for posting the draw. Four teams who could win a county championship. Any of the four teams could be in the county final which will bring its own pressure. I was impressed with Tinahely last weekend. Yes, Rathnew were one-dimensional and lacked scoring forwards but Tinahely put them to the sword in the third quarter. Dunlavin score one point in the first half against An Tochar; only to score 2-10 in the second half. Which Dunlavin will turn up? Their play during matches is very inconsistent. If they play like they played in the first half against An Tochar; Tinahely will win comfortably. If they play like they played in the second half; they can win this game. I think Tinahely will win; my reason - they are well balanced throughout the field and their experienced players will carry more threat and get them through to the final.

I'm in danger of having egg on my face - I've written off Baltinglass all year but they are still in the semi final. Kiltegan are impressing me. Rory Finn will be a loss if he can't play. I'm picking Kiltegan. I think their scoring ability will see them through but I do expect Baltinglass to improve. It is a Tinahely versus Kiltegan final for me.

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1985 - 17/09/2024 14:22:06    2570392

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Replying To WestWicklow14:  "The West teams are overlooked in Wicklow GAA that's just a fact and has been for years. West teams dominated underage for years and it was the same old story Pats, AGB, Bray, Rathnew is all that Wicklow GAA wanted to know about. Outside of Mark Jackson every position could have plenty of competition and with alot of them from teams in the west. Revamp needed at the county level and some interest shown in the teams performing at the top end of Club football, how much recognition will be shown to the remaining West teams in the intermediate and senior grades at county level? Very little."
Totaly agree with this. and to add Nicks winning u15 last year and now Blesso this year, minor could be heading west as well looking at last night matchs results.

u15 final sunday got no mention here but i stayed for it it was a great game with plenty of good kicking. Best team won blesso looked a serious team with big lads and stength all down the middle and well able to play ball short and long. lots of good citeogs and fellas who can kick strong of left and right. Pats big lads showed up well to and had good nippy lads to kick nice scores in forwards. Talent is defintely good at u 15 based on that final.

Pat Mustard (None) - Posts: 386 - 17/09/2024 15:18:02    2570406

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Replying To Pat Mustard:  "Totaly agree with this. and to add Nicks winning u15 last year and now Blesso this year, minor could be heading west as well looking at last night matchs results.

u15 final sunday got no mention here but i stayed for it it was a great game with plenty of good kicking. Best team won blesso looked a serious team with big lads and stength all down the middle and well able to play ball short and long. lots of good citeogs and fellas who can kick strong of left and right. Pats big lads showed up well to and had good nippy lads to kick nice scores in forwards. Talent is defintely good at u 15 based on that final."
U17 is hard to predict. Based on what I've seen, I think it's between Blesso and Arklow, with a slight preference for Blesso. Hope they don't meet before the final. It would be a cracker.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1174 - 17/09/2024 16:35:36    2570423

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West vs East now thats the problem with Wicklow football. This pettiness. Your showing your age now, time to go back to the dark ages. The best footballers that want to play for the county will be selected.

I was at all 4 games, thoughts, well the long ball teams except balto won in the end. The 3 teams in semi finals along with Rathnew deployed this. Pump the ball into the square see what happens teams won out. The footballing sides blesso, Eire og and an Tochair failed to progress. It's not a great standard, like an under 14 game, but it worked. Never work at intercounty.

The other point, I didn't think ballymun was in wicklow.

StrandedinWW (Wicklow) - Posts: 32 - 17/09/2024 17:08:19    2570432

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Replying To StrandedinWW:  "West vs East now thats the problem with Wicklow football. This pettiness. Your showing your age now, time to go back to the dark ages. The best footballers that want to play for the county will be selected.

I was at all 4 games, thoughts, well the long ball teams except balto won in the end. The 3 teams in semi finals along with Rathnew deployed this. Pump the ball into the square see what happens teams won out. The footballing sides blesso, Eire og and an Tochair failed to progress. It's not a great standard, like an under 14 game, but it worked. Never work at intercounty.

The other point, I didn't think ballymun was in wicklow."
You make some very valid points in your post. I've followed Wicklow for nearly forty years and back in the 90s there was a divide in the county but I've witness very little of this type of behaviour since the each 00s. I despise modern day intercounty football. It is truly awful to watch. Players playing like robots. Big physical players that could play rugby who are more like middle-distance runner than footballer. Unfortunately, it is successful. Players in Wicklow are not conditioned to play like other counties. I've watched a lot of matches this year and there are no lean physical players who could compete physically with other counties' players over a 75 minute match. There are little tactics. Having said all this, I enjoyed the games. The players gave it their all and there was more kicking in the games than I've witnessed in a long time. Will this type of players or play be successful at intercounty level; the answer is no. Will it be successful against the top clubs in the leinster club championship; the answer is no. Would I prefer to watch club football in Wicklow to a club match in some other counties that I witnessed; the answer is yes.

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1985 - 17/09/2024 19:26:56    2570462

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