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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Stating the obvious but Limerick are well ahead of the pack and their standards will have to drop if their caught in a knockout game this year, I think there's very little between the chasing pack and its a case for these teams building consistency, a bit of momentum and getting a bit of the most under appreciated thing in sport a bit of luck. In Munster Limerick will finish in the top 3 unless something crazy happens and I can't call it between the other 4 teams, Cork like you said are so unpredictable, Clare were brilliant in Munster last year but interesting to see if the mauling they took from Kilkenny will set them back, 4 or 5 of there key players have alot of miles clocked up although they've some promising young lads like Meehan and Rodgers coming too, Tipp look like they've ground to make up but we seen in 2020 with Waterford that Cahill is capable of bringing a team from nowhere far into the championship, no home games is a blow for Waterford but if those games vs Limerick and Clare are moved to Thurles that isn't a disaster for them, I'd say they'd love to play both in Nowlan Park if they could to bring the opposition on a longer journey but doubt Munster Council will allow it.

Leinster looks very open, I think Galway have the most capacity performance wise of the teams but are a bit unreliable, compare how well they competed vs Limerick in last year's semi final to how abject they were in the Leinster final. Kilkenny will always be in the mix don't need to say much more, I think panel depth and consistency are our 2 aims for the year, on our day we're a match for most teams, Dublin have 10 lads off the panel this of their own accord which puts them on a tough start but Donoghue is serious operator so will be interesting to see how they go. Wouldn't read much into league form for any team this year."
I don't know if or when we can break the glass ceiling. However if last year despite winning the useless league was considered dropping off I don't believe that is the trend. Why? Many good new young players coming in and others coming of age. The two Dalys a year more experienced. Three Fitzjeralds all from different clubs. Ruben Halloran, Aaron Ryan and others. None of these have had a 22nd birthday yet and some under 20. If Prunty, DeBurca and Barron can put injury behind them Waterford are still a formable side. Consistency an issue and any talk of expectations always seems to be an anchor. Predication ? Munster after Limerick will throw up some wild results.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3026 - 19/01/2023 17:54:49    2453121

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Replying To daveboy:  "I'm be interested to see where other county posters here feel where their county team is currently at ? What sort of season do they expect?

I see Tipp getting a bounce with some good young talent coming through finally. Wexford were very close to being in the AI semi last year just short of a bit of depth. Galway/ Clare are at a small crossroads I think personally. Cork are hard to predict and kilkenny will always be in the shake up and they'll blood a few with Lyng in charge."
Like I said last year Tipp need to get out of Munster if they are to do anything in the next few years. Another year of being in the bottom two will be very bad for Tipp - stating the obvious.
I think for the first time in a decade you'll see a Tipp team this year that is physically fit to the level required. We are the only team where you see lads visibly gassed In matches. By all accounts the training is on a new level this year. So I think that gives us a better starting point. Physically in terms of size we are miles behind limerick but I don't think Linerick should be the goal for Tipp.
I think getting in the top 3 is achievable for all 5 Munster counties but Tipp will be bottom of the pile with the bookies and rightly so. I'd be hoping we can sneak 3rd in Munster and go from there but being honest I don't see it happening this year.
Craig Morgans loss is huge. Breen going full back I've been calling for for years. I really hope it works out and if it does then a lot of managers have a lot to answer for. Him being a success at 3 and O'Mara at 6 is an exciting prospect but there's gaps all over the field at the min. Time will tell.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 19/01/2023 17:59:54    2453122

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Replying To Canuck:  "True hurling people ignore this noise. What Limerick has achieved to date with this team in my opinion makes them one of the greatest ever and well on the way to the greatest. Not degrading the great Kilkenny team especially, Tipp and Cork. Looking at the history of the game there is always a chance one of the big three could and do dominate for periods with multiple tittles in a row. However the followers rarely do better than picking off one here and there. I would love us to get one and if that ever happened that is all it would be. Also would like to beat Limerick but if that does not occur quiet happy to see their train chugging along to further greatness in this century. We have had probably our best team ever during this period but no cigar."
I think your noughties team was better tbh Canuck. Just unlucky you had Cork and Kilkenny to deal with.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15509 - 19/01/2023 18:06:18    2453124

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Replying To Viking66:  "I think your noughties team was better tbh Canuck. Just unlucky you had Cork and Kilkenny to deal with."
I agree. Forward line with Dan, Kelly. Prendergast, Mullane, Flynn, Molumphy and Brick in midfield with a half back line of Tony, Ken and Kevin Moran. Brilliant team to watch.
Of the current forward line I thin Dessie and possibly Stephen Bennett gets into the 2008 final team.
Its all a matter of opinion.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 20/01/2023 09:58:59    2453155

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Replying To Viking66:  "I think your noughties team was better tbh Canuck. Just unlucky you had Cork and Kilkenny to deal with."
Your are probably right up to 15 but seriously lacked dept.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3026 - 20/01/2023 14:27:29    2453222

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Replying To tiobraid:  "I agree. Forward line with Dan, Kelly. Prendergast, Mullane, Flynn, Molumphy and Brick in midfield with a half back line of Tony, Ken and Kevin Moran. Brilliant team to watch.
Of the current forward line I thin Dessie and possibly Stephen Bennett gets into the 2008 final team.
Its all a matter of opinion."
If Stephen O'Keeffe had arrived sooner that would have probably have done it.,

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3026 - 20/01/2023 14:34:57    2453224

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Replying To tiobraid:  "I agree. Forward line with Dan, Kelly. Prendergast, Mullane, Flynn, Molumphy and Brick in midfield with a half back line of Tony, Ken and Kevin Moran. Brilliant team to watch.
Of the current forward line I thin Dessie and possibly Stephen Bennett gets into the 2008 final team.
Its all a matter of opinion."
Dessie probably. Stephen no. I'd sooner have Shane when on song.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15509 - 20/01/2023 14:54:48    2453228

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Replying To daveboy:  "I'm be interested to see where other county posters here feel where their county team is currently at ? What sort of season do they expect?

I see Tipp getting a bounce with some good young talent coming through finally. Wexford were very close to being in the AI semi last year just short of a bit of depth. Galway/ Clare are at a small crossroads I think personally. Cork are hard to predict and kilkenny will always be in the shake up and they'll blood a few with Lyng in charge."
Best of luck to my old Alma Mater, ASR, today. Keep her lit.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 21/01/2023 10:11:56    2453281

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Replying To Viking66:  "Dessie probably. Stephen no. I'd sooner have Shane when on song."
Viking I think uninjured Barron, DeBurca, Gleeson and Prunty would make it on to any team. The Brick and Kevin Moran were also part of this team having played in both teams. All of them were All_Stars and regarded among the best in the game.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3026 - 21/01/2023 16:48:43    2453324

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Replying To Viking66:  "Dessie probably. Stephen no. I'd sooner have Shane when on song."
I'd strongly disagree on your last point. No comparison for me.!

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 22/01/2023 09:38:06    2453363

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Replying To Canuck:  "Viking I think uninjured Barron, DeBurca, Gleeson and Prunty would make it on to any team. The Brick and Kevin Moran were also part of this team having played in both teams. All of them were All_Stars and regarded among the best in the game."
I agree 100% Canuck. But Prunty, deBurca are backs and Barron is a midfielder. The OP was about which of the current team would make it into the forward line from 2008. Aussie is I think best at centre forward and would definitely make that 2008 team. Is Dessie better than Kelly, Shanahan and Mullane? He might be but has only been hurling senior intercounty a few years. Stephen Bennett wouldn't make that team I don't think.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15509 - 22/01/2023 11:36:03    2453375

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Replying To Viking66:  "I agree 100% Canuck. But Prunty, deBurca are backs and Barron is a midfielder. The OP was about which of the current team would make it into the forward line from 2008. Aussie is I think best at centre forward and would definitely make that 2008 team. Is Dessie better than Kelly, Shanahan and Mullane? He might be but has only been hurling senior intercounty a few years. Stephen Bennett wouldn't make that team I don't think."
I think Dessie would have a better temperament than Kelly ever had, that said Kelly was a super player with great ability but he went downhill very quickly quite young.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2269 - 22/01/2023 12:39:36    2453385

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Replying To Bon:  "I think Dessie would have a better temperament than Kelly ever had, that said Kelly was a super player with great ability but he went downhill very quickly quite young."
Him, Dan and John were all a little cracked it has to be said Bon!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15509 - 22/01/2023 14:57:19    2453404

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Replying To Viking66:  "I agree 100% Canuck. But Prunty, deBurca are backs and Barron is a midfielder. The OP was about which of the current team would make it into the forward line from 2008. Aussie is I think best at centre forward and would definitely make that 2008 team. Is Dessie better than Kelly, Shanahan and Mullane? He might be but has only been hurling senior intercounty a few years. Stephen Bennett wouldn't make that team I don't think."
Yes it is I think it is subjective alright. The only think I would ask is which team was better ? The 2002 team may have had better individuals but when Mullane got suspended that year which I believe was the difference there was no one to come in even to do half his scoring prowess. One man out? Admittedly a great one. In 2020 anyone came in or out did not weaken the team. Just met a Limerick machine tuned to the utmost.
I loved that 2002 team. Tony Browne a legend playing inter county at the top level at 42.
Limerick sorry for hogging your page a bit but try to mention your marvellous team at all times.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3026 - 22/01/2023 18:27:26    2453461

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Replying To Viking66:  "I agree 100% Canuck. But Prunty, deBurca are backs and Barron is a midfielder. The OP was about which of the current team would make it into the forward line from 2008. Aussie is I think best at centre forward and would definitely make that 2008 team. Is Dessie better than Kelly, Shanahan and Mullane? He might be but has only been hurling senior intercounty a few years. Stephen Bennett wouldn't make that team I don't think."
Are you forgetting Ken McGrath and of course the Brick was also a mighty player. I thought 2004, when Mullane was suspended was their best year and definitely a chance lost. I thought that Munster Final was the best I have ever seen in 60+ years going to Munster Finals. The carry on of Kelly when he scored his goal was brilliant. He rushed behind the goal and made a motion to 'apologise' to the massed bank of Cork Supporters for 'mistakenly' beating Cusack. They were not best pleased. Of course Flynn's goal from the long distance free topped it all. For Years, I used to be reminded by Cork men of Fenton beating Tommy Quaid from way out the field. After that I used to simply say 'well Quaid had not two other men on the goal line with him'.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 22/01/2023 19:37:21    2453484

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Routine win for Limerick againt Kerry yesterday, Mike Houlihan , Mark Quinlan, Colin Coughlan , Conor O Grady did well . Dan Morrissey the only man who started the All Ireland out of the 22 that played so cant say others arent getting a chance, good spread of clubs but only one from west limerick Ronan Connolly from Adare.

Ard Scoil Ris lost semi final narrowly of Harty on Saturday , only 7 from Limerick started 8 from clare. Is it right many of the subs from Limerick are travelling miles to be subs with Ard Scoil rather than play in promenient positions with their local schools?
Castletroy College had a big win in the B schools semi final with 13 of the starting 15 from Monaleen who now play Bandon in the final to play Harty next year.

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 736 - 23/01/2023 09:48:20    2453530

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Are you forgetting Ken McGrath and of course the Brick was also a mighty player. I thought 2004, when Mullane was suspended was their best year and definitely a chance lost. I thought that Munster Final was the best I have ever seen in 60+ years going to Munster Finals. The carry on of Kelly when he scored his goal was brilliant. He rushed behind the goal and made a motion to 'apologise' to the massed bank of Cork Supporters for 'mistakenly' beating Cusack. They were not best pleased. Of course Flynn's goal from the long distance free topped it all. For Years, I used to be reminded by Cork men of Fenton beating Tommy Quaid from way out the field. After that I used to simply say 'well Quaid had not two other men on the goal line with him'."
For me Waterford lit up the noughties. Cork had a solid, successful, but uninspiring, short passing style and Kilkenny were a machine. Waterford were full of characters. I wasn't forgetting Brick or Ken, both excellent hurlers that could play nearly every outfield position. I was only answering the OP about current forwards that were good enough to get into the 2008 Waterford front 6.
Limerick had a fair team in the late noughties too, backboned by lads with AI U21 medals. But just like everyone else they got run over by the Kilkenny juggernaut of that era.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15509 - 23/01/2023 10:38:43    2453557

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Replying To Viking66:  "For me Waterford lit up the noughties. Cork had a solid, successful, but uninspiring, short passing style and Kilkenny were a machine. Waterford were full of characters. I wasn't forgetting Brick or Ken, both excellent hurlers that could play nearly every outfield position. I was only answering the OP about current forwards that were good enough to get into the 2008 Waterford front 6.
Limerick had a fair team in the late noughties too, backboned by lads with AI U21 medals. But just like everyone else they got run over by the Kilkenny juggernaut of that era."
Glad you mentioed Corks hand passing all those years ago. There was no issue with that back then, but when a 'lesser being' like Limerick successfully use it, we have a small clique of ex players, all from from the big three, whinging about it, in the National Media. Me smell hypocrites.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 23/01/2023 11:53:36    2453591

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Glad you mentioed Corks hand passing all those years ago. There was no issue with that back then, but when a 'lesser being' like Limerick successfully use it, we have a small clique of ex players, all from from the big three, whinging about it, in the National Media. Me smell hypocrites."
Same as it always was. As you well know OTM!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15509 - 23/01/2023 13:26:39    2453639

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i'm bk after a few months away and looking forward to another exciting year........i see our friends down in wexford are as fanatical as ever with 30 pages already on wexford 2023.....

munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1136 - 23/01/2023 14:40:40    2453676

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