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If Molaise don't want their second team to be promoted for a second consecutive year they should be relegated to the very bottom division in fairness. Promote an extra team from division 4 A to replace them. xwave8000 (Sligo) - Posts: 20 - 03/08/2024 21:18:03 2563727 Link 0 |
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There was a lot of senior games across all divisions conceded over the weekend. What's the fine now for conceding a match. A lot of the teams probably played out a challenge game somewhere. Roscommon Championship is up and running
Taypot (Sligo) - Posts: 45 - 04/08/2024 09:13:33 2563743 Link 0 |
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Going to have some difficult choices on their hands again the County Board. Molaise topped Div 3 after beating Cloonacool and Johns finish in bottom 2 again so should theoretically go down I think. But Castleconnor have a legit argument to stay in Div 2 given the precedent the County Board set last year. You're right though far too many concessions this week I know the games were dead ringers but should be played nonetheless xwave8000 (Sligo) - Posts: 20 - 04/08/2024 16:24:27 2563788 Link 0 |
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Is it 2 teams relegated from d3?
Timmy86 (Sligo) - Posts: 294 - 04/08/2024 16:26:44 2563790 Link 0 |
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Pretty sure Johns finished bottom last year. Not sure about this year tbh.
xwave8000 (Sligo) - Posts: 20 - 04/08/2024 16:44:54 2563792 Link 0 |
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Ah sure they might put the whole of Division 3 and 2 together and call it the "everyone's great" league. Teams have to accept that if they're ranked 7th/8th in a league ya go down and tough tit. If you're good enough you'll come up the following year. It reminds me a bit of the time we used to have was it 16 teams in senior championship. Sounded great that you were a senior club when you'd meet someone outside the county. There are senior championship clubs in some counties playing in Division 3 and they don't make a big fuss about it, after all it is the secondary competition. St John's and St Michael's however are in serious trouble at adult level given the results in recent years. I know Johns have some promise coming up in underage but Michael's are struggling for numbers underage and any talent Ballygawley side seems to go to Shamrock Gaels. There's some great GAA people trying their best there but results must be demoralising. Could you see a merger of the Carraroe and Ballintogher outfit with the town side of things being left to Calry and Marys to pick through? Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 423 - 04/08/2024 18:51:48 2563809 Link 0 |
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They finished 2nd bottom this time ,but I presume all divisions it's 2 up ,2 down
Timmy86 (Sligo) - Posts: 294 - 04/08/2024 19:02:50 2563812 Link 0 |
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The original Irish massage gun Bumblebee123 (Sligo) - Posts: 48 - 05/08/2024 21:58:18 2563939 Link 0 |
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As per earlier posts, I agree that league football position is kind of irrelevant in lots of ways. It is and will always be about preparing for Championship. You are where you are for a variety of reasons. Teams like St. Farnans and Castleconnor can find themselves in division 3 or Tubbercurry in division 2. There is little between the top 7 or 8 in Divsion 1 and between the bottom 9 in Division 2. If they do the right things, they won't be there long and it has never seemed to transfer any kind of form or have any bearing on Championship performance. Division 3 is different as there should be levels between these sides. With regards to Molaise Gaels second team, I'd be understanding as to why they don't want to come up. They seem to use it for their young players and it's not as if they are running away with it. If one teams only gets relegated from Division 2, so be it. What difference does it really make? If St. Farnans want to be in the division and Molaise don't, then why force it? The real surprise is the drop off from St. Michaels and especially St. Johns who looked to be past this sticking point last year. It's worrying to see and one can't help but feel, they won't be the last club in this situation. I imagine in 10 years that second teams in big clubs will overtake lots of teams. johncreilly (Sligo) - Posts: 102 - 06/08/2024 14:22:38 2564030 Link 0 |
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I agree with you that they are secondary competitions but they are competitions none the less and clubs should follow the rules set out at the beginning of them and not look to change them after they're concluded. Leagues offer a chance for some clubs to pick up silverware that they might not necessarily get a chance of at championship level, especially as you are missing county players for part of it meaning that stronger championship sides may not reach a final. Which ever of teams in Division 2 final for example will be delighted to win a league title given they haven't had any major success at senior level as I would imagine Cloonacool in Division 3 would be. While Tourlestrane have more medals to throw around the place they will no doubt be hoping to prove that 2023 was a blip and by winning the league they are back on track, equally Molaise will want to give themselves belief by coming into championship as league champions. Fiddling with the rules and who goes up or down after its been agreed is not a professional way of doing things. Perhaps we need to go down a different road of having second teams all in a reserve league to prevent this happening in future. If I were a Farnan's or Castleconnor player I'd be annoyed at being relegated but in 2025 I'd sooner nothing better than playing against one another in a league final to claim local bragging rights as well as a medal and head into championship more confident than having to avoid relegation in 2025 again potentially. Also I think that it's a discussion we could have on our club championships too. Are 10 teams too many in Senior and Intermediate in a county of what is it 23 clubs? You are however correct in saying that some second teams will overtake some first in the coming years which is a worry. St Molaise Gaels, Eastern Harps, St. Marys, Shamrock Gaels all have the potential to do so and some already have if you consider Shamrock Gaels were relegated from Intermediate last year and Molaise were in the Junior final two years ago. Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 423 - 06/08/2024 15:35:36 2564043 Link 0 |
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I understand and largely agree but in this format, if teams don't wish to play in a division up, I personally don't see the harm. With regards to championship, it probably is time it Senior Championship changes to 8 teams but one might say the Intermediate is competitive enough the way it is. Rightly or wrongly, it was once 16 in senior and it's hard to see that it isn't getting more and more diluted. It's a worry. johncreilly (Sligo) - Posts: 102 - 06/08/2024 16:00:16 2564049 Link 0 |
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St Molaise Gaels is the real outlier here, obviously doing serious work underage, have the best pitch in the county but they've a huge pick…they have 32 players in underage development squads according to the club Sligo promotion. So with a team that already has been to a senior final, league final this weekend they could well in 5 to 8 years time could have a second team that could win intermediate. It seems ridiculous to think but with those numbers it could be a possibility . They are fielding two teams at every age grade. Fair play to them (slightly jealous) but how do we help the clubs outside Sligo town compete. BreakingBall123 (Sligo) - Posts: 50 - 06/08/2024 22:57:05 2564107 Link 0 |
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Div 1 - League Winners - Tourlestrane Sligobuck21 (Sligo) - Posts: 115 - 07/08/2024 10:29:27 2564128 Link 0 |
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Fair play Sligobuck for getting the ball rolling early. I expect St Molaise Gaels x2 and Drumcliffe to win the league titles this weekend. As for the championship I don't think I'd be able to call the exact positions as you have but I expect Coolera/Strandhill, Shamrock Gaels, St Molaise Gaels and Tourlestrane to reach the semi finals. I expect Easkey to go back down. In Intermediate I think Owenmore Gaels and Bunninadden will progress from group 1 and Harps and Mullinabreena from 2 with St Johns to get the chop. As regards Junior Championship expecting St Michaels, St Molaise Gaels, Ballymote and Cloonacool to reach semi finals with Ballymote winning it out. Don't think there is relegation from Junior this year....no more than last year. Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 423 - 07/08/2024 12:04:43 2564140 Link 0 |
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Interesting Calls from ye both. A bit of fun. For league, I'll go Molaise in a tight game, Drumcliffe comfortably enough, and Cloonacool to scrape it. Senior Championship Group 1 1. Shamrock Gaels 2. Coolera Strandhill 3. Tubbercurry 4. Easkey 5. Calry Group 2 1. Molaise Gaels 2. Tourlestrane 3. Drumcliffe 4. Curry 5. Marys I'll go with Tourlestrane to beat Molaise in the final. The very last dance for them. It feels like a year where they have sat on the edge with little talk and are quietly building towards Championship. Molaise will show their true level over the next two months. It's a hurdle they won't want to go on too long as in my opinion, they have the best squad in the county. Can't see Coolera doing it again but who knows. I don't see a threat to the top two in Group 1 but Tubbercurry once they have their full deck to play with, might surprise as they have so often before. Group 2 is wide open and feels a bit wrong to put Curry and Marys in relegation. Marys definitely seem to be missing some of that firepower this year and I don't see them getting out of it. I think Easkey have had a tough number of weeks but will galvanise and stay up with a good result or two along the way. Calry might be the likely ones to go IMO as they have taken some hockeyings this year. Confidence has to be low. Though, league form usually doesn't translate so we will see. Intermediate Championship Group 1 1. Geevagh 2. Buninadden 3. Owenmore Gaels 4. Castleconnor 5. St. Johns Group 2 1. Eastern Harps 2. Coolaney Mullinabreena 3. St. Pats 4. Enniscrone 5. St. Farnans Outside of the opposite top two who I think will eventually contest the final, which I think the loser of the group game will win (as I do with Senior), I've no idea what happens in Intermediate. Anyone can beat anyone in group 1 but I do think Geevagh still have good experience players and will be one of the semi finalists. And though I can't be hypocritical, it would take fair turnaround for Johns not to be in relegation. The other 3 teams, who knows. Bunninadden tend to be up and down year on year, Owenmore Gaels probably the form side of the 3 and Castleconnor without Carrabine probably means they would be the weaker in theory. In group 2, I think harps will lose a game but win it outright. And it maybe a big call based on form, but I think St. Pats will end up above both Farnans and Enniscrone who might find Championship a bit tighter. I'll say St. Johns to go down but got out of it last year in similar circumstances. Junior Championship Nobody too obvious here so I might as well make it a Hat Trick. Ballymote to lose to Cloonacool in the group and win the Championship. Molaise B likely being the biggest threat to both with Michaels coming out with them of the group. johncreilly (Sligo) - Posts: 102 - 07/08/2024 13:27:44 2564159 Link 0 |
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Senior - Group 1 1. Coolera/Strandhill 2. Shamrock Gaels 3. Calry 4. Tubbercurry 5. Easkey Senior - Group 2 1. St. Molaise 2. Drumcliffe/Rossespoint 3. Tourlestrane 4. St Mary's 5. Curry Relegated : Easkey Winners : Coolera/Strandhill in a repeat of last year's final Intermediate Predictions: Group 1: 1. Owenmore Gaels 2. Geevagh 3. Castleconnor 4. Bunninadden 5. St. John's Group 2: 1. Eastern Harps 2. Coolaney/Mullinabreena 3. St. Farnans 4. Enniscrone 5. St. Pat's Relegated : St John's Winners : Eastern Harps muscles (Sligo) - Posts: 459 - 07/08/2024 14:51:35 2564171 Link 0 |
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I won't agree that they have the best pitch, that's a minor matter but they have made serious progress with the development of GAA in the club. They probably have the largest catchment area in the county which can be problematic when it comes to getting everyone working together for the one cause so they are on top ot their game there. I firmly believe that if they win the right to get promoted then they should have no option only accept it. Getting into promotional positions and declining the offer resulting in saving another team from relegation is wrong. It's a dangerous precedent to set . If they don't want to get promoted,then drop a few points in the league. The only exception I would consider would be if promotion resulted in 2 club teams playing in the same division. That would be unworkable. For the league final Molaise really have to win it. They were the most consistent team all through last year but won nothing. To lose another final will shake their confidence heading into the championship. This is the first real test for Tourlestrane under the new manager. He will know a lot more about his team when the game is over. A win would be nice but it won't be any big deal for Tourlestrane. They want to reclaim the Co Championship. I go for a win for Molaise . Drumcliffe should have enough firepower to see off Enniscrone.
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1941 - 08/08/2024 13:31:29 2564264 Link 0 |
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Senior - Group 1 1. Coolera/Strandhill 2. Shamrock Gaels 3. Tubbercurry 4. Easkey 5. Calry Senior - Group 2 1. St. Molaise 2. St Marys 3. Tourlestrane 4. Drumcliffe/Rosses Point 5. Curry Relegated : Calry Winners : St Marys to beat Coolera in the final Intermediate Predictions: Group 1: 1. Geevagh 2. Bunninadden 3. Owenmore Gaels 4. Castleconnor 5. St. John's Group 2: 1. Eastern Harps 2. Coolaney/Mullinabreena 3. St. Pat's 4. Enniscrone 5. St. Farnans Relegated : St John's Winners : Coolaney/Mullinabreena Junior Winner St Molaise Gaels League wins for Tourlestrane ,Drumcliff RP , Cloonacool RealSouthSligo (Sligo) - Posts: 105 - 09/08/2024 12:47:47 2564381 Link 0 |
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If a club has a team in a league then they should accept the consequences of the final placings in that league whether they like them or not, promotion or relegation. Otherwise the integrity of the league is compromised. The ham-fisted way it was dealt with last year meant that the integrity of both div 2 and 3 were compromised. The next placed team in div 3 that was willing to go up should have been promoted and at least then div 2 would have been completed according to its rules, 2 promoted and 2 relegated. sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 788 - 09/08/2024 13:24:54 2564391 Link 0 |
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The ladies Co Board are a mess. They stumble from one year to the next. I'm not fully glued in to the ladies game now because I gave up on them a few years ago . I could genuinely write a book about the things that go on with them. It's basically the same people involved in administration for years but they just shuffle around the deck chairs at each convention. I am told from several sources that the best footballer's in the county are not involved with the senior team. On the other hand ladies are notorious fickle and hard managed at the best of times. The solution is simple, at club level people just have to put their names forward for positions on the ladies exec. Until that happens nothing is going to change. The minor team did very well this year but as you say it will be extremely difficult to keep them together once they leave school and take to the corners of the earth for further education. Girls play senior football at a much younger age than fellas but tend to retire much earlier also. If you need inspiration all you need to do is look at our neighbours Leitrim. All Ireland Intermediate champions. They are obviously doing something very right.
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1941 - 09/08/2024 22:40:01 2564485 Link 0 |