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You all know my opinion on the 3 points for a win and I get and respect that some don't agree. Have a look at the teams at the top of Div 1 and their respective second teams at the top of Div 3. The county board has enabled the strong to become stronger, those with the bigger catchment areas will survive (deeper squads, 40+ training), as for the rest!!! Take Cloonacool for example, got off to a blistering start and won all their "2 point games", now struggling to qualify...1 county player in that league! It's unjust and I sincerely hope every affected team appeals, especially those relegated as a result! To be blunt about it and quote a wise older gentleman I spoke to yesterday "its daft and makes absolutely no sense, who makes these decisions, they are ruining clubs". The purest will agree. Bloodsub6 (Sligo) - Posts: 30 - 23/07/2023 07:33:47 2496207 Link 1 |
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Correct me if I'm wrong but if the 3 point rule hadn't come in and each game was worth 2 points, then the top 2 and bottom 2 in each division would be the same as it is now with the 3 point rule. So the 3 points hasn't affected the standings that much muscles (Sligo) - Posts: 452 - 23/07/2023 17:36:09 2496311 Link 0 |
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I believe you are wrong. Look at the scenarios for the final round of games in each division. For example - If they were 2 point games and had been up to that point, would Cloonacool be in a good place for qualification based on the fact they are playing SMG (second team) in their final match?
Bloodsub6 (Sligo) - Posts: 30 - 24/07/2023 08:22:53 2496455 Link 0 |
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Fully agree and when the table is finalised in two weeks I'll comment more on it but all I can think is ya get what ya vote for. The agendas of a few people who are there for too long have ruined club football in this county and they showed their true colours by bringing in this daft system. No wonder clubs aren't buying into Club Sligo. While it was a great year for the county teams it's papering over the cracks in this county and then a county board afraid to have meetings to let clubs have their say because the man in the hot seat can't handle criticism. Three meetings all year our delegate told me yesterday at our game!
Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 378 - 24/07/2023 09:59:55 2496468 Link 0 |
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Any update on the outstanding game in Division 2 between Casstleconnor and OMG? Surely this needs to be resolved before the last round of the leagues. As others have stated here I think the 3 point rule could well lead to objections at the end of the league. sligosham (Sligo) - Posts: 23 - 25/07/2023 22:01:55 2496938 Link 0 |
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I see it's down to be played next Tuesday
Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 378 - 28/07/2023 00:43:26 2497379 Link 0 |
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Minor ladies in the All Ireland B final, rounding off a great year for Sligo football at underage. We drew with Galway 1-10 a a piece in Connacht and Galway are now contesting A final. Ran Mayo close enough too. Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1681 - 31/07/2023 22:53:45 2498246 Link 1 |
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I think Owenmore Gaels need to win both remaining games to be safe. One win may be enough if Geevagh beat Ballymote next Sunday. Castleconnor are on a good run lately and might shade this one too
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1808 - 01/08/2023 11:30:05 2498308 Link 0 |
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Moved to Thursday now. If Castleconnor win they'll move to 10 so will be fine. Owenmore win will make it a very interesting final round. They'd be on 8, Castleconnor on 7 and Ballymote on 7. Looking at the last round of fixtures be hard to see wins for both Owenmore and Castleconnor especially given that they play teams pushing for promotion. Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 378 - 01/08/2023 12:50:53 2498334 Link 0 |
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The top of the table is equally as interesting. If Harps and Coolaney were both to lose. (Not an impossible scenario) and Geevagh and Easkey won then you would have 4 teams on the same points. Score difference would be crucial.
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1808 - 01/08/2023 13:59:39 2498351 Link 0 |
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True and in that instance the 3 pointer games would have helped Easkey as Harps and Mullinabreena both lost less games than them. I don't see harps losing though whatever about Mullinabreena. Division 1 relegation not simple now either with Curry, Tubber and Farnans. Cloonacools race is run in Division 3. Ironic given that the 3 pointers has done them out of it. It should never have applied to Division 3 given small number of county players in the league. St John's should rename as St Jude's for hopeless cases given their poor league run despite being saved from relegation to Division 4 for the year. Shame really to see a club around the town struggle as only other sports can benefit from it. Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 378 - 01/08/2023 17:44:54 2498437 Link 0 |
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Senior and U.20 Mgt are sorted for next year. No surprise really with either appointment. Henry will have a huge task ahead of him. There's an expectancy now which can be a burden. There's talk of the competition changing to a round robin which I don't like. I love the cut throat of knock out. MC Enter fully deserves another year. You know the saying about the devil you know is better than the devil you don't. There's no one knocking down doors trying to get the job. We would have a few potential candidates who are with other set ups. Another year under their belt would be no harm. We should be pushing for promotion next year and should give the Tailteann Cup a good run. We would not have won that cup this year. We need to find a few 6'4 players with power and pace and I'm not sure we have them in the country at present. Note the word....pace eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1808 - 02/08/2023 09:03:49 2498512 Link 0 |
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Cloonacool have lost 2 games. The 3 teams above them have won 6 games as opposed to their 5. Even if the old system was in place they would be in the identical situation. Unless I am missing something?
northsligo321 (Sligo) - Posts: 2 - 02/08/2023 12:03:59 2498570 Link 0 |
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If Cloonacool were to beat St Molaise Gaels they would match them on games won and lost and beat them on the head to head. However with this system they will be on 14 points and Molaise on 15.
Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 378 - 02/08/2023 13:03:49 2498593 Link 0 |
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Shamrock Gaels have all games played so they're maxed out and highly unlikely to gain promotion. In normal circumstances the table should currently read which if Cloonacool were to win would leave 3 teams on 12 fighting for second place (assuming Enniscrone win and take first) so score diff would sort it out. 1. Enniscrone 12 2. Shamrock Gaels 12 3. Molaise Gaels 12 4. Cloonacool 10 Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 378 - 02/08/2023 13:08:27 2498595 Link 0 |
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Looking at the score difference Cloonacool would definitely finish top 2 if they won the weekend and the old scoring system was in play. St Johns avoided relegation last season for no apparent reason so maybe Cloonacool should look for promotion if they win the weekend and only lose out because of this 3 point farce.
sligosham (Sligo) - Posts: 23 - 02/08/2023 13:42:05 2498606 Link 0 |
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Does scoring difference come into it if there have been alot of walkovers?
northsligo321 (Sligo) - Posts: 2 - 02/08/2023 14:07:55 2498623 Link 0 |
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They had the good idea a few years ago of restructuring the divisions into three divisions of 8. 23 clubs in Sligo meaning bar a first team underperforming dramatically Division 3 should contain the 7 weakest first teams and only 1 second team. This would have created 3 very competitive divisions, and improved division 3 especially. For some reason the CB decided to renage on this proposal and go back to what we are left with now. If we had 3 divisions of 8 we could play 7 home and 7 away game, 7 games with county players and 7 without, all for 2 points. People might say that is too many games, cut or make divisional comps knockout. Depending on results this weekend the 3 point farce may have a bearing on promotion/Finalists, relegation across all three divisions. Apparently Shamrock Gaels have confirmed that if all 3 teams at the top of Division 1 win on the weekend, it will be them and St. Marys in the Final as they will beat St Molaise on H2H courtesy of the 3 point rule. sligosham (Sligo) - Posts: 23 - 02/08/2023 14:25:34 2498633 Link 0 |
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None of those teams involved in walkover games so I would presume ok for scoring difference to be used.
sligosham (Sligo) - Posts: 23 - 02/08/2023 14:27:27 2498634 Link 0 |
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Sure if all three teams win at top of table then the table remains the same and it'll be score difference that'll sort it out? You can't have head to head with three teams involved on same points. Even though Marys and Molaise will have lost 1 less game than Shamrock Gaels Gaels could jump them with a big win against Coolera. As I said before ya get what ya vote for. Same personnel calling the shots and clubs not bothered until it affects them and it's too late. Good suggestion by a poster there to scrap divisional and go to two rounds in 8 team leagues Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 378 - 02/08/2023 17:56:55 2498733 Link 0 |