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Replying To CRTW:  "Pal being in the relegation final last year slightly skewed the groups along with Tinryland being finalists last year and struggling similarly this year. On the basis of the games this year you'd have to say Clonmore deserve to stay up, you don't always get what you deserve in sport though and Tinryland certainly aren't as bad as they've played in their last two games, I'd absolutely give OL a chance against Rathvilly, EO and Pal is a toss up imo"
Yeah. Fair comment. Eire og on last night's form would be toast but they will still give pal all they want. Rathvilly looked very strong today but as I said earlier gaels never put up any effort. If I had to pick a winner I'd plump for Rathvilly.

Overthebar53 (Carlow) - Posts: 256 - 15/09/2024 20:44:27    2570001

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Replying To Overthebar53:  "Yeah. Fair comment. Eire og on last night's form would be toast but they will still give pal all they want. Rathvilly looked very strong today but as I said earlier gaels never put up any effort. If I had to pick a winner I'd plump for Rathvilly."
Rathvilly certainly have the strongest team and bench and in full flow are hard stop so they probably remain favourites outright, OL's pace will cause them problems but they need to create turnovers high up the field to get real advantage of it though so if Rathvilly avoid that and always kick the ball dead they should have enough, Pal look well coached but can go out of games for spells but I always fancy them in semi finals, EO looked flat and hit some poor wides, on another night they go over and they cruise home, they certainly won't fear Pal.

CRTW (Carlow) - Posts: 8 - 15/09/2024 21:27:42    2570010

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Replying To CRTW:  "Rathvilly certainly have the strongest team and bench and in full flow are hard stop so they probably remain favourites outright, OL's pace will cause them problems but they need to create turnovers high up the field to get real advantage of it though so if Rathvilly avoid that and always kick the ball dead they should have enough, Pal look well coached but can go out of games for spells but I always fancy them in semi finals, EO looked flat and hit some poor wides, on another night they go over and they cruise home, they certainly won't fear Pal."
I was at the game Saturday night as a neutral. To suggest that the final score was a reflection of Eire Og being flat is extremely unfair on MLR. Tough conditions with a difficult wind and the tone of the game was set by EO sitting off MLR and attempting to contain them, unlike Rathvilly who went straight for the juggler on Sunday. Majority of EO wides were poor decisions to shoot in the conditions and only 30per cent chance at best, and super defending by Mlr, with one great block on Dunphy in 1st half showed the intent of MLR. MLR had the game and scoreboard in control with a few minutes to go until a mad handpass in backs led to that crazy turnover which resulted in the penalty, however there was a blatant foul on MLRs no 6 creating the turnover.
This was a massive test for EO and will stand to them next weekend. Hats off to their opponents who picked themselves up over that last two weeks ( Saturday wasn't even 4 weeks from the SH replay). And had a real go, despite being without possibly their play maker and one of the best young footballers in Carlow, Fitzpatrick. On the back of this Eire Og will be hard to beat going forward , trust me

Carlowtothecore1 (Carlow) - Posts: 37 - 16/09/2024 15:37:30    2570181

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Replying To Carlowtothecore1:  "I was at the game Saturday night as a neutral. To suggest that the final score was a reflection of Eire Og being flat is extremely unfair on MLR. Tough conditions with a difficult wind and the tone of the game was set by EO sitting off MLR and attempting to contain them, unlike Rathvilly who went straight for the juggler on Sunday. Majority of EO wides were poor decisions to shoot in the conditions and only 30per cent chance at best, and super defending by Mlr, with one great block on Dunphy in 1st half showed the intent of MLR. MLR had the game and scoreboard in control with a few minutes to go until a mad handpass in backs led to that crazy turnover which resulted in the penalty, however there was a blatant foul on MLRs no 6 creating the turnover.
This was a massive test for EO and will stand to them next weekend. Hats off to their opponents who picked themselves up over that last two weeks ( Saturday wasn't even 4 weeks from the SH replay). And had a real go, despite being without possibly their play maker and one of the best young footballers in Carlow, Fitzpatrick. On the back of this Eire Og will be hard to beat going forward , trust me"
At no point did I say MLR were poor but EO certainly didn't look like a team who were firing on all cylinders, if they produce a performance like that again on Saturday I for one think they'll be beaten, Chris Nolan scored two outrageous points that certainly wouldn't be considered high percentage, yet down the other end EO were putting shots from the 14 wide so my point is on another night that's a 4 point swing and EO just close it out, as soon as they scored the penalty it was game over I felt anyway, if EO consider that a good performance they certainly won't get anywhere near defending their title. Your point about MLR giving it a go considering the circumstances is a fair one, this split of hurling first and football second has to go imo, making themselves and Mullins play a football championship the week after a county final is ridiculous and unfair.

CRTW (Carlow) - Posts: 8 - 16/09/2024 18:17:49    2570229

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An interesting weekend of football behind us and another to come.

Senior games were a disappointment at the weekend the quality of the eire og mlr game was very poor and the rathvilly bagenalstown game was over before it started.
I'll stick with and eire og rathvilly final

Intermediate saw good wins for fenagh and tullow with grange and kildavin/clonegal awaiting in the semis. I think this will be a fenagh kildavin final
The junior A saw two close games Friday night with both asca and O'Hanrahans probably leaving the games behind them, kilbride face ballon now and the cocks take on leighlinbridge. It's looking like a kilbride leighlinbridge final but I expect it to be close

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1639 - 16/09/2024 20:56:15    2570251

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Replying To CRTW:  "At no point did I say MLR were poor but EO certainly didn't look like a team who were firing on all cylinders, if they produce a performance like that again on Saturday I for one think they'll be beaten, Chris Nolan scored two outrageous points that certainly wouldn't be considered high percentage, yet down the other end EO were putting shots from the 14 wide so my point is on another night that's a 4 point swing and EO just close it out, as soon as they scored the penalty it was game over I felt anyway, if EO consider that a good performance they certainly won't get anywhere near defending their title. Your point about MLR giving it a go considering the circumstances is a fair one, this split of hurling first and football second has to go imo, making themselves and Mullins play a football championship the week after a county final is ridiculous and unfair."
I dunno if the split season of hurling first and football second has to go tbh. It's very hard be a proper dual club when it's week in week out switching between both codes. It only suits the football clubs who don't hurl & punishes the likes of Bagenalstown MLR Myshall etc who all promote both codes. You'll also kill off the revival of hurling in Carlow town and potentially weaken the likes of Kildavin and burren rangers. It's not ideal but at least it gives both codes decent breathing room and should only help improve the standard if lads are getting blocks of training in each code. Look at Wicklow atm 15 championship weeks in a row for dual clubs, carnew and kiltegan are the only dual clubs competing in both codes….thats not a good thing

benchtoaster (Carlow) - Posts: 32 - 17/09/2024 07:30:49    2570280

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Replying To benchtoaster:  "I dunno if the split season of hurling first and football second has to go tbh. It's very hard be a proper dual club when it's week in week out switching between both codes. It only suits the football clubs who don't hurl & punishes the likes of Bagenalstown MLR Myshall etc who all promote both codes. You'll also kill off the revival of hurling in Carlow town and potentially weaken the likes of Kildavin and burren rangers. It's not ideal but at least it gives both codes decent breathing room and should only help improve the standard if lads are getting blocks of training in each code. Look at Wicklow atm 15 championship weeks in a row for dual clubs, carnew and kiltegan are the only dual clubs competing in both codes….thats not a good thing"
If you're a dual club you'll be competing that amount of time anyway? Rangers have been on the go for how many weeks in a row? Obviously you don't want players playing 15 weeks in a row, there's ways to play it off without it being week on week, also the revival of hurling in Carlow Town happened before the split season came in so I think the credit there is due to the hard work that people have put into getting their underage going again, there's no split season for any of the underage competitions and it doesn't cause any issues. I've previously stated here that I think all clubs should be offering or promoting both codes, the amount of kids who never got the chance to play hurling in the country simply because their club doesn't offer it or promote it is scandalous

CRTW (Carlow) - Posts: 8 - 17/09/2024 18:51:53    2570455

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Replying To CRTW:  "If you're a dual club you'll be competing that amount of time anyway? Rangers have been on the go for how many weeks in a row? Obviously you don't want players playing 15 weeks in a row, there's ways to play it off without it being week on week, also the revival of hurling in Carlow Town happened before the split season came in so I think the credit there is due to the hard work that people have put into getting their underage going again, there's no split season for any of the underage competitions and it doesn't cause any issues. I've previously stated here that I think all clubs should be offering or promoting both codes, the amount of kids who never got the chance to play hurling in the country simply because their club doesn't offer it or promote it is scandalous"
Don't think the number of games is an issue, but the condensed nature of the championships are ludicrous considering there's 5 weeks from football final to Leinster campaign. 3 of those weeks spread over group stages would make a massive difference to a dual club as pointed out by mlr football manager in recent interview.
Also clubs are not being rewarded at admin level for being genuine dual. IMO when it comes to voting on structures and fixtures a dual club should have 2 votes as against a single vote for one code club. Otherwise the football clubs will always make decisions for hurlers in this county.
In the same radio report the Bagenalstown chairman said that they need some help from gaa for being a dual club, not sure what he's looking for as in their case they had 3 full weeks once hurling finished to focus on football, and, their record in hurling this year was poor, 1 win in 6 games is the reality, no issue in gaa giving dual clubs help but clubs need their own house in order before seeking help elsewhere!

Carlowtothecore1 (Carlow) - Posts: 37 - 18/09/2024 14:28:30    2570581

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I don't think the split season is a success at all. Both championships are over before you can really get into them. 6/7 days between games then in 4 weekends half the teams are gone. In terms of preparing for the next game it's fairly difficult as you're trying to recover from the previous one and work on areas that need it, very little you can do with a quick turn around. Granted all teams are in the same position but that's not the point. The football season is now split in two with a massive gap between league and championship, while hurling is done in the middle of summer and long forgotten now. Visibility of our games is vital for our sports if they are to thrive into the future, the rushed nature of the split season runs contrary to this.

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1639 - 18/09/2024 22:20:23    2570640

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