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Replying To CARPS:  "I'll take hilarious over clueless any day."
Absolute drivel from you on every post, you said earlier that you have no issue with EO but somehow manage to have a negative comment about them in every post. You don't hate them you're obsessed. To say the state of them and put them in the same category as O'Hanrahans is ridiculous but again from reading previous posts no surprises your take is as is.

MLR are being lauded as some kind of shining example of a dual club , they insult the football with their contributions every year to the league and champ. Fair play they beat EO simple as in the day, sure a broken clock is right twice a day. They don't conduct themselves as a dual club in any way shape or form.

All this talk about the advances of split season , look at Myshall and St.Mullins this year both relegated in the football. Hardly a resounding endorsement of the split champ.

We have a 5 team champ in hurling , six next year (let's see how Naomh Bríd commit). Put them in row two groups and let them play two group games and then into a QF and play it off over 5/6 weeks and we'd see how happy they are.

Anyway , another year where Pal who have the pick of the town and country areas haven't won a Senior, has to be questions asked there. What are they doing wrong and how do they sort it? Where do Tinryland go? All the plaudits here about their performance in the relegation game they're gone down and do they come back?

1884 (Carlow) - Posts: 11 - 18/10/2025 13:17:32    2640495

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Old Dogs for the Hard Road

During the 9 year stretch from 2009 to 2017 one of either Old Leighlin or Rathvilly featured in every Carlow SFC final with the exception of 2012 (Eire Óg beat Palatine), during this period the sides faced each other on 4 occasions 2009, 2010, 2013 & 2014.

Both sides have some stalwarts involved in tomorrow's 2025 final who were playing in each of these encounters, Séamus Kinsella, Cathal Coghlan, David Bambrick and Mark Brennan for 'The Village', while Rathvilly have Ed Finnegan and Brendan Murphy along with current Bainisteoirí for the latter JJ Smith and Kevin Byrne who were also involved in these mighty battles as players.

In recent times however, both clubs have been on contrasting journeys. Reigning champions Rathvilly have since continued their dominance as they seek a third County title in five years. Meanwhile Old Leighlin have had to rebuild after a rocky few years including a relegation battle vs Ballinabranna in 2022. Both sides have touched base with each other each of the past 5 years with the results clearly demonstrating Old Leighlin gradually closing the gap.

2021: R 1-17 - 1-5 OL (Rathvilly by 12)
2022: R 2-12 - 2-6 OL (Rathvilly by 6)
2023: R 0-15 - 1-11 OL (Rathvilly by 4)
2024: R 3-5 - 1-9 OL (Rathvilly by 2)
2025: R 1-14 - 1-14 OL (Draw)

Both sides enter tomorrow's County Final unbeaten this season. Old Leighlin have recorded three wins and two draws, while Rathvilly boast two victories and three stalemates. Their earlier group-stage encounter ended in a draw, suggesting that the gap between the teams has narrowed considerably. The key question now is which side can adapt best to seize the decisive edge on the big day.

The Rathvilly management have rotated their players throughout the campaign and its difficult to predict how they will line out for the final. Surprisingly the three Murphy's (Brendan, Darragh and Kevin) appeared from the bench in the replayed semi final victory over Bagenalstown. With the physicality of Old Leighlins midfield (Ian Atkinson and David Bambrick) it would make for an intriguing contest to see them marshalled by the powerful Brendan and Darragh Murphy.

Perhaps a match up less under the spotlight could prove to be that of Padraig Bolger and James Dowling. Both players are having an exceptional year and largely contributing to their attacking play chipping in with plenty of scores. Padraig Bolger has scored 1-7 so far this season while James Dowling has an impressive tally of 2-10 from play.

Sean Bambrick has been rock solid at centre back all year and will likely be tasked with marking the elusive Brandon Kelly. I suspect these players may cancel each other out tomorrow but it has the potential to be a great individual battle.

Likewise the Powerhouse that is Mikey Bambrick will no doubt be tightly marked by Josh Moore in another key contest. It is no secret that Mikey when on song is unmarkable and from Rathvilly's perspective will be on a mission of damage limitation.

Carlow Senior SFC top scores below:

Top Scorers Total
1st Shane O'Neill 0-26 (0-16 placed ball)
2nd Cian Doyle 0-24 (0-16 placed ball)
3rd Niall Quinlan 3-12 (0-8 placed ball)
4th Liam Gavin 0-20 (0-14 placed ball)
5th Pádraig Hynes 0-19 (0-9 placed ball)
6th Conor Doyle 1-15 (0 placed ball)
6th Aaron Amond 1-15 (0-1 placed ball)
6th Cathal Coughlan 2-12 (0-8 placed ball)
6th Seamus Kinsella 2-12 (0-8 placed ball)

Both Conor Doyle and Aaron Amond are joint 6th in the top scoring stakes despite neither being free takers. Amond nailed a '45 in the semi final victory over Palatine with the rest of his scores coming from open play including four 2 pointers. Among Conor Doyle's 1-15 from play three times he raised orange flags. Both players will be in the conversation for player of the year should their side lift the Conlon Cup.

Verdict:

Rathvilly by 4pts

Carlowrising (Carlow) - Posts: 179 - 18/10/2025 18:53:37    2640536

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Replying To 1884:  "Absolute drivel from you on every post, you said earlier that you have no issue with EO but somehow manage to have a negative comment about them in every post. You don't hate them you're obsessed. To say the state of them and put them in the same category as O'Hanrahans is ridiculous but again from reading previous posts no surprises your take is as is.

MLR are being lauded as some kind of shining example of a dual club , they insult the football with their contributions every year to the league and champ. Fair play they beat EO simple as in the day, sure a broken clock is right twice a day. They don't conduct themselves as a dual club in any way shape or form.

All this talk about the advances of split season , look at Myshall and St.Mullins this year both relegated in the football. Hardly a resounding endorsement of the split champ.

We have a 5 team champ in hurling , six next year (let's see how Naomh Bríd commit). Put them in row two groups and let them play two group games and then into a QF and play it off over 5/6 weeks and we'd see how happy they are.

Anyway , another year where Pal who have the pick of the town and country areas haven't won a Senior, has to be questions asked there. What are they doing wrong and how do they sort it? Where do Tinryland go? All the plaudits here about their performance in the relegation game they're gone down and do they come back?"
You've written 300 words proving my point. Carlow GAA is full of people defending fiefdoms instead of looking at the bigger picture.

As for MLR "Insulting the football?" They've been senior for years. It was two football only clubs in relegation this year (EO and Tinryland). This season their minors topped the B, U16s were 3rd in Division 2, and U14s played Division 1. Meanwhile, football only Clonmore, Grange, O'Hanrahan's and Tinryland were all in Division 2. As indeed were Michael Davitts (three football clubs in one). If that's what insulting the football looks like, then what are the other clubs mentioned doing?

You also falsely claim St Mullins have been relegated in the football. In reality, they hammered O'Hanrahan's (football only) in the playoff.

So who's writing drivel?

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 938 - 18/10/2025 18:53:56    2640537

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Replying To Carlowrising:  "Old Dogs for the Hard Road

During the 9 year stretch from 2009 to 2017 one of either Old Leighlin or Rathvilly featured in every Carlow SFC final with the exception of 2012 (Eire Óg beat Palatine), during this period the sides faced each other on 4 occasions 2009, 2010, 2013 & 2014.

Both sides have some stalwarts involved in tomorrow's 2025 final who were playing in each of these encounters, Séamus Kinsella, Cathal Coghlan, David Bambrick and Mark Brennan for 'The Village', while Rathvilly have Ed Finnegan and Brendan Murphy along with current Bainisteoirí for the latter JJ Smith and Kevin Byrne who were also involved in these mighty battles as players.

In recent times however, both clubs have been on contrasting journeys. Reigning champions Rathvilly have since continued their dominance as they seek a third County title in five years. Meanwhile Old Leighlin have had to rebuild after a rocky few years including a relegation battle vs Ballinabranna in 2022. Both sides have touched base with each other each of the past 5 years with the results clearly demonstrating Old Leighlin gradually closing the gap.

2021: R 1-17 - 1-5 OL (Rathvilly by 12)
2022: R 2-12 - 2-6 OL (Rathvilly by 6)
2023: R 0-15 - 1-11 OL (Rathvilly by 4)
2024: R 3-5 - 1-9 OL (Rathvilly by 2)
2025: R 1-14 - 1-14 OL (Draw)

Both sides enter tomorrow's County Final unbeaten this season. Old Leighlin have recorded three wins and two draws, while Rathvilly boast two victories and three stalemates. Their earlier group-stage encounter ended in a draw, suggesting that the gap between the teams has narrowed considerably. The key question now is which side can adapt best to seize the decisive edge on the big day.

The Rathvilly management have rotated their players throughout the campaign and its difficult to predict how they will line out for the final. Surprisingly the three Murphy's (Brendan, Darragh and Kevin) appeared from the bench in the replayed semi final victory over Bagenalstown. With the physicality of Old Leighlins midfield (Ian Atkinson and David Bambrick) it would make for an intriguing contest to see them marshalled by the powerful Brendan and Darragh Murphy.

Perhaps a match up less under the spotlight could prove to be that of Padraig Bolger and James Dowling. Both players are having an exceptional year and largely contributing to their attacking play chipping in with plenty of scores. Padraig Bolger has scored 1-7 so far this season while James Dowling has an impressive tally of 2-10 from play.

Sean Bambrick has been rock solid at centre back all year and will likely be tasked with marking the elusive Brandon Kelly. I suspect these players may cancel each other out tomorrow but it has the potential to be a great individual battle.

Likewise the Powerhouse that is Mikey Bambrick will no doubt be tightly marked by Josh Moore in another key contest. It is no secret that Mikey when on song is unmarkable and from Rathvilly's perspective will be on a mission of damage limitation.

Carlow Senior SFC top scores below:

Top Scorers Total
1st Shane O'Neill 0-26 (0-16 placed ball)
2nd Cian Doyle 0-24 (0-16 placed ball)
3rd Niall Quinlan 3-12 (0-8 placed ball)
4th Liam Gavin 0-20 (0-14 placed ball)
5th Pádraig Hynes 0-19 (0-9 placed ball)
6th Conor Doyle 1-15 (0 placed ball)
6th Aaron Amond 1-15 (0-1 placed ball)
6th Cathal Coughlan 2-12 (0-8 placed ball)
6th Seamus Kinsella 2-12 (0-8 placed ball)

Both Conor Doyle and Aaron Amond are joint 6th in the top scoring stakes despite neither being free takers. Amond nailed a '45 in the semi final victory over Palatine with the rest of his scores coming from open play including four 2 pointers. Among Conor Doyle's 1-15 from play three times he raised orange flags. Both players will be in the conversation for player of the year should their side lift the Conlon Cup.

Verdict:

Rathvilly by 4pts"
There is a clear trend there. If it continues, it'll be Old Leighlin (by two) tomorrow.

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 938 - 18/10/2025 19:11:18    2640542

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Replying To Carlowrising:  "Old Dogs for the Hard Road

During the 9 year stretch from 2009 to 2017 one of either Old Leighlin or Rathvilly featured in every Carlow SFC final with the exception of 2012 (Eire Óg beat Palatine), during this period the sides faced each other on 4 occasions 2009, 2010, 2013 & 2014.

Both sides have some stalwarts involved in tomorrow's 2025 final who were playing in each of these encounters, Séamus Kinsella, Cathal Coghlan, David Bambrick and Mark Brennan for 'The Village', while Rathvilly have Ed Finnegan and Brendan Murphy along with current Bainisteoirí for the latter JJ Smith and Kevin Byrne who were also involved in these mighty battles as players.

In recent times however, both clubs have been on contrasting journeys. Reigning champions Rathvilly have since continued their dominance as they seek a third County title in five years. Meanwhile Old Leighlin have had to rebuild after a rocky few years including a relegation battle vs Ballinabranna in 2022. Both sides have touched base with each other each of the past 5 years with the results clearly demonstrating Old Leighlin gradually closing the gap.

2021: R 1-17 - 1-5 OL (Rathvilly by 12)
2022: R 2-12 - 2-6 OL (Rathvilly by 6)
2023: R 0-15 - 1-11 OL (Rathvilly by 4)
2024: R 3-5 - 1-9 OL (Rathvilly by 2)
2025: R 1-14 - 1-14 OL (Draw)

Both sides enter tomorrow's County Final unbeaten this season. Old Leighlin have recorded three wins and two draws, while Rathvilly boast two victories and three stalemates. Their earlier group-stage encounter ended in a draw, suggesting that the gap between the teams has narrowed considerably. The key question now is which side can adapt best to seize the decisive edge on the big day.

The Rathvilly management have rotated their players throughout the campaign and its difficult to predict how they will line out for the final. Surprisingly the three Murphy's (Brendan, Darragh and Kevin) appeared from the bench in the replayed semi final victory over Bagenalstown. With the physicality of Old Leighlins midfield (Ian Atkinson and David Bambrick) it would make for an intriguing contest to see them marshalled by the powerful Brendan and Darragh Murphy.

Perhaps a match up less under the spotlight could prove to be that of Padraig Bolger and James Dowling. Both players are having an exceptional year and largely contributing to their attacking play chipping in with plenty of scores. Padraig Bolger has scored 1-7 so far this season while James Dowling has an impressive tally of 2-10 from play.

Sean Bambrick has been rock solid at centre back all year and will likely be tasked with marking the elusive Brandon Kelly. I suspect these players may cancel each other out tomorrow but it has the potential to be a great individual battle.

Likewise the Powerhouse that is Mikey Bambrick will no doubt be tightly marked by Josh Moore in another key contest. It is no secret that Mikey when on song is unmarkable and from Rathvilly's perspective will be on a mission of damage limitation.

Carlow Senior SFC top scores below:

Top Scorers Total
1st Shane O'Neill 0-26 (0-16 placed ball)
2nd Cian Doyle 0-24 (0-16 placed ball)
3rd Niall Quinlan 3-12 (0-8 placed ball)
4th Liam Gavin 0-20 (0-14 placed ball)
5th Pádraig Hynes 0-19 (0-9 placed ball)
6th Conor Doyle 1-15 (0 placed ball)
6th Aaron Amond 1-15 (0-1 placed ball)
6th Cathal Coughlan 2-12 (0-8 placed ball)
6th Seamus Kinsella 2-12 (0-8 placed ball)

Both Conor Doyle and Aaron Amond are joint 6th in the top scoring stakes despite neither being free takers. Amond nailed a '45 in the semi final victory over Palatine with the rest of his scores coming from open play including four 2 pointers. Among Conor Doyle's 1-15 from play three times he raised orange flags. Both players will be in the conversation for player of the year should their side lift the Conlon Cup.

Verdict:

Rathvilly by 4pts"
Brilliantly written. Well done Rising.

DolmenDave (Carlow) - Posts: 32 - 18/10/2025 20:02:17    2640551

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Poor enough fare in the intermediate final tonight. Neither side did enough to win but I think Ballon will have more scope for improvement as a few of their better young players didn't show their best. Grange rely a lot on John Murphy who once again at this level was a class apart from everyone else on the field.

I said earlier this championship I thought the standard was closer or junior than senior and nothing since including the final if these are the best two has changed my mind. I think whoever wins will struggle badly next year and by the same token I think Tinryland should win intermediate in the third gear next year.

Looking forward to the two finals tomorrow. If Leighlinbridge don't win it this time they could fall away but I think they will do enough but it could be yet another drawn final.

I predicted Rathvilly to win senior at the start but I'm not sure now. They've chopped and changed too much and are not settled. OL are the opposite and I think they're better managed on the line. OL by 3 for me with Mikey Bambrick the match winner.

Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1675 - 18/10/2025 20:46:00    2640555

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