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Replying To CARPS: "Sorry I meant nobody on u20 starting team." Colm kavanagh started yesterday.. throw away the shovel! old yellar (None) - Posts: 2630 - 06/04/2025 18:08:06 2600789 Link
Replying To old yellar: "Colm kavanagh started yesterday.. throw away the shovel!" He wasn't named to start. CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 822 - 06/04/2025 18:43:10 2600803 Link
Replying To CARPS: "He wasn't named to start." And you believe all that you see on twitter or Facebook?! old yellar (None) - Posts: 2630 - 06/04/2025 18:49:39 2600807 Link
Despite the score line it was a decent enough showing today. I was hoping we'd win the toss and play with the wind but unfortunately Meath won it and were not going to be caught. I like the new rules but on a day like today the two pointer rule is a bit much as it's just too easy to float them over with a strong wind behind you. Also it meant Meath never even tried work a goal in the first half happy to work two pointers. Second half we played well and should have had at least two goals but were unlucky so hopefully on another day in TC we'll make sure of those chances. Looking forward to the TC we'll hopefully get a bit of a run to the quarters at least. Joe will have a month with the players without interruptions now and can put his stamp on the team. Lots of scope for improvement there's some good ballers in that group. Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1529 - 06/04/2025 19:28:25 2600817 Link
Replying To old yellar: "And you believe all that you see on twitter or Facebook?!" Yes: I believe he wasn't named to start. I now see the team was altered before throw in. Anyway, the original point about the minors stands. CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 822 - 06/04/2025 19:39:01 2600819 Link
Yes 2 pointers make it hard for weaker team to stay in touch, especially against wind. I tought first half was awful. Lost almost all kickouts, miles off our men, never won a breaking ball. Worst of all pulled out of challenges. Big imprivement in second half and pkayed some nice football. Hard to gague as meath knew the game was won. A massive month ahead but i have hope. At half time a record defeat Looked likely. Bimb (Carlow) - Posts: 518 - 06/04/2025 20:55:34 2600836 Link
Good win for the minor hurlers on Saturday. They seem like a team that have loads more in them too. Laois seem to be the strongest in the group so a win against Kildare should get them through to the next round. It's nice to see a bit more strength and size in that minor team. I thought it was a big issue we have had in both codes in recent years. Whatever about the result but I thought the U20s put in a great effort. Kildare had a bit more speed and sharpness in the 2nd half but they're some nice hurlers on the panel if they stick at it. On the St Mullins point, they never had huge numbers starting on underage teams. Going back to when Marty Kavanagh, James Doyle, Paul Doyle etc were coming through they might have had 3 or 4 max starting. They're just probably having a lean age group or two that can happen in clubs. Let's not forget they've only won 2 minor hurling championships in their history. The strongest teams up along at the current minor county age group have been Carlow Town, Burren Rangers and Bagenalstown and you can see that in the panel of players. hurlingguru (Carlow) - Posts: 1837 - 06/04/2025 23:13:41 2600871 Link
Replying To old yellar: "Colm kavanagh started yesterday.. throw away the shovel!" LOL. Good old CARPS. Knows everything about everything.... Bracker1984 (Carlow) - Posts: 33 - 07/04/2025 00:16:01 2600876 Link
Replying To CARPS: "Club breakdown of minor panel yesterday: Burren 4, Myshall 4, Bagenalstown 4, CTHC 3, Ballinkillen 3, MLR 3,, Naomh Brid 2, Kildavin 1. Only 3 of the 24 from the 'big two." Three from MLR and Zero from St Mullins. Would anyone with a knowledge of the grade currently be able to explain that please? Seems very strange to me that Mullins have nobody on minor or u20. I know it's a small area, but they always produced a couple for the county at each grade. They fielded minor and u16 teams last year. Also three seems very low for Mt Leinster Rangers compared to the past decade or so." Colm Kavanagh started. Was a starter for Good Counsel in Senior A also, and played well. Surely it's a good sign that other clubs are producing county standard players? Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15299 - 07/04/2025 07:48:32 2600885 Link
Replying To CARPS: "He wasn't named to start." That's one of the reasons why it's always good actually to watch the games. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15299 - 07/04/2025 07:49:27 2600886 Link
Replying To Carlowtothecore1: "That was some hammering. I travelled more in hope but didn't expect that to be honest, conceding 31 scores! Can we blame cake for this one and move on.. Meath looked a very very average team, but never got out of second gear" Very very average is a tad harsh. Won the game in that 2nd quarter and probably eased off a bit too much for our liking in the 2nd half. Meath def a young team and a work in progress. Carlow tackled very well and had some good performances in the forwards hard running and accurate shooters. I seen enough to think you can def get to knockouts in the Tailteann southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 965 - 07/04/2025 09:45:47 2600907 Link
Replying To hurlingguru: "Good win for the minor hurlers on Saturday. They seem like a team that have loads more in them too. Laois seem to be the strongest in the group so a win against Kildare should get them through to the next round. It's nice to see a bit more strength and size in that minor team. I thought it was a big issue we have had in both codes in recent years. Whatever about the result but I thought the U20s put in a great effort. Kildare had a bit more speed and sharpness in the 2nd half but they're some nice hurlers on the panel if they stick at it. On the St Mullins point, they never had huge numbers starting on underage teams. Going back to when Marty Kavanagh, James Doyle, Paul Doyle etc were coming through they might have had 3 or 4 max starting. They're just probably having a lean age group or two that can happen in clubs. Let's not forget they've only won 2 minor hurling championships in their history. The strongest teams up along at the current minor county age group have been Carlow Town, Burren Rangers and Bagenalstown and you can see that in the panel of players." Thank you for an informative post. The reason I asked about Mullins is because while it's great to see progress at CTHC, Burren and Bagenalstown, history has shown us that players from MLR, Mullins, Ballinkillen and Myshall are more likely to stick at hurling as they get older. I could name tons of promising underage starlets from Carlow Town or Naomh Brid who never progressed to senior - often because football took over. That's obviously not going to happen to a guy from Ballymurphy or Timoling. The hope is that CTHC and Burren go on now to become strong senior clubs. Fingers crossed. CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 822 - 07/04/2025 10:06:00 2600911 Link
Replying To Bracker1984: "LOL. Good old CARPS. Knows everything about everything...." It's not the 'gotcha' you think it is. God old Carps can't attend every single game, at every grade. I went by the starting team announced before the match. Hardly a crime. CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 822 - 07/04/2025 10:06:56 2600912 Link
Replying To Viking66: "That's one of the reasons why it's always good actually to watch the games." The Carlow GAA website says there were 13 games played in the county this weekend. And another in Navan. Do please forgive me for not being able to attend them all. CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 822 - 07/04/2025 10:09:14 2600913 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Colm Kavanagh started. Was a starter for Good Counsel in Senior A also, and played well. Surely it's a good sign that other clubs are producing county standard players?" It's tremendous, but the issue as I posted earlier is that previous trends suggest that talented minors from MLR, St Mullins, Myshall and Ballinkillen are more likely to follow through at adult level than guys from Carlow Town, Naomh Brid and Bagenalstown. I do hope that changes. For example, the Carlow u21 teams of the early 2010s - who went toe to toe with Wexford, Dublin, Kilkenny etc. - featured quite a lot of Naomh Brid players. None of whom later became established at senior county level. CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 822 - 07/04/2025 10:12:15 2600914 Link
Replying To CARPS: "It's tremendous, but the issue as I posted earlier is that previous trends suggest that talented minors from MLR, St Mullins, Myshall and Ballinkillen are more likely to follow through at adult level than guys from Carlow Town, Naomh Brid and Bagenalstown. I do hope that changes. For example, the Carlow u21 teams of the early 2010s - who went toe to toe with Wexford, Dublin, Kilkenny etc. - featured quite a lot of Naomh Brid players. None of whom later became established at senior county level." You were decent enough at u21 into the mid teens tbh. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15299 - 07/04/2025 10:57:03 2600927 Link
Replying To Viking66: "You were decent enough at u21 into the mid teens tbh." Yes but the concern is that there's been a worrying fall back in performances and results at underage for probably the past five years or more. We only need one or two to come through at each age group to keep the senior team topped up I know but the standards overall at underage seems to be going backwards not forwards. You'd worry that over time this will see us pivot back towards Christy Ring level at senior compared to where we are now and where we want to at the very least stay. Results so far this year by Carlow clubs in the Kilkenny U-16 league have been very very poor. Most have taken hidings from Kilkenny clubs and we've none competing at A level (Naas are) , only one at B and the rest are at C and our clubs are still not competitive, or not yet this year anyway. Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1529 - 07/04/2025 11:19:42 2600932 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Colm Kavanagh started. Was a starter for Good Counsel in Senior A also, and played well. Surely it's a good sign that other clubs are producing county standard players?" So why wasn't he started against Kerry, surely someone capable of competing at the A hurling colleges level should be an automatic on our u20 team. We needed our best team out against Kerry to have any chance in that comp! Was he deemed surplus to requirements by management like some players highlighted in previous posts that were excluded from panel. Carlowtothecore1 (Carlow) - Posts: 59 - 07/04/2025 11:57:53 2600938 Link
Replying To Carlowtothecore1: "So why wasn't he started against Kerry, surely someone capable of competing at the A hurling colleges level should be an automatic on our u20 team. We needed our best team out against Kerry to have any chance in that comp! Was he deemed surplus to requirements by management like some players highlighted in previous posts that were excluded from panel." Might be the fact that he was injured leading into the championship and did not train until the week leading into the Kerry Chevvy (Carlow) - Posts: 2 - 07/04/2025 12:13:31 2600948 Link
Replying To Chevvy: "Might be the fact that he was injured leading into the championship and did not train until the week leading into the Kerry" Ok so he was fit for that game, just not picked. Not much sense in holding a lad back when it's basically a knockout game by all accounts! We have to get our 15 best players onto the pitch at every level or waste of time.. we don't have strong panels, maybe a strong 15 if we're lucky in any one year Carlowtothecore1 (Carlow) - Posts: 59 - 07/04/2025 13:31:59 2600963 Link